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Grandma
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2007 14:32
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As a few here might know, i'm a hobby musician. I recently bought a new sound card and a line mixer thingy (which also works as an external sound card). Both have the newest driver, both "work properly" as said in the device manager list.

Problem is, i can't record any sound with any of them. The properties of the internal sound card lists 0 (zero!) recording devices. I can't even open the recording devices window on the external one, it says "There is a problem with your sound hardware. To install mixer devices, go to control panel, click printers and other hardware, and then click Add hardware".

I checked in the device manager list for the mixer devices my computer seems to miss so much. They are present in all 3 sound cards, built-in, internal and the external one.

Oh dear, i bought the equipment for the sole purpose of getting better recording quality than i would have gotten from the built-in sound card. I can easily play music trough them, but when it comes to recording, they just sit there, looking at me like i'm some sort of a crazy person.

To summarize; I can record on the crappy built-in card, can NOT record on the (supposedly) good devices. Tried several different drivers, didn't help. The app i use to record sound also says it doesn't detect any recording devices.

I don't really know what to try now. Any help would be appreciated. Don't be afraid to suggest something obvious, who knows what i might have overlooked.

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Models of the soundcards?


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Posted: 2nd Oct 2007 15:19
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Not sure what to tell you about recording, but hey man its nice to know you're a musician too .

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Posted: 2nd Oct 2007 15:25
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Quote: "Models of the soundcards?"


Yeah, the one i want to record on is a Mia midi card
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/PCI/MiaMIDI/index.php

Which has NO recording devices on it, according to the audio properties window. The sound card is stricly MADE for recording. So it should atleast do that.

Quote: "Not sure what to tell you about recording, but hey man its nice to know you're a musician too."


I could post a track or two, but there's no music board.

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Which I say is a damn shame, think of all the great music that could be produced and shared amongst the community, sure would be a lot better than a team request board.

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Quote: "Which has NO recording devices on it, according to the audio properties window. The sound card is stricly MADE for recording. So it should atleast do that. "


Well, Studio Sound cards are kinda weird, I have 3 RME HDSP (two 9632 and one 9652) working together, my advice is Disable the AC96 card (the Built-in one) in the BIOS (this is so important), Reinstall all the Sound cards, the internal first and before install the external try the to record something with the internal card if then you can record then install the external card.

To manage the Audio devices go to "Control Panel/Audio Devices" and choose the Mini input, the sound output and the Recording input.

Also active ASIO drives (Not multimedia-ASIO) in your Recording software (Cubase, Sonar or whatever are you using) it is usually in "recording options"

Hope that helps


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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 17:24
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Ok, in a nutshell; i've disabled AC97 from the bios. Reinstalled the others, problem persist.

BUT! There's good news, altough the "pro" recording app can't find the recording device (nor can control panels' audio properties manager). I've noticed that the standard MS "Sound Recorder" is able to record just fine.

I guess that's what they mean by the simplest is often the best. I don't like it, but if it's the only one working....I guess i can manage.

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Which "PRO" app are you using?


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Posted: 3rd Oct 2007 17:29
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Sonar. I also tried the "Ableton" that followed the other hardware, it was a no-go.

....fast response btw.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2007 01:50 Edited at: 4th Oct 2007 01:52
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I just downloaded the SONAR6´s Demo, when I started the app for first time it did a test and recognized my hardware at once. Did your hardware past the test?

Ok let me see what we have here...

First go to Options/Audio and check if your device its listed in this window (Please dont look at what I had write on the screenshot xD I thought it was the concurrent recording Input but its not, we will see that later...)



Now check this: (your inputs should be listed here)


ok then lets see how this thing works...

Create a new track ,then right-click on the new track you had created and now click on "track options"



Now choose the input you will use to record:



This is the first time I had used Sonar and I dont know if this will work, I just hope so... I use Samplitude pro nº9.

Hope that helps!


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Posted: 4th Oct 2007 11:00 Edited at: 13th Oct 2007 16:13
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Thanks for the help there Sopo. Yes, i passed the hardware test. Sonar detected all the hardware. I tried all the buttons and levers, but it still wouldn't register my awesome guitar skillz at work.

However, i downloaded Sound Forge 6, installed it, opened it, noticed imediately a record button at the top-left screen, pressed it, and Boom! it works. And it's easy, just the way it's supposed to be. Sound Forge is able to record just fine whilst "Audio Record wizard 3", "Ableton Live" and "Sonar Cakewalk" can not.

There's still the problem that i can't access the Audio properties manager list thing, but that's not a biggie. As long as i'm able to record, i'll be happy.

Nedless to say, i'll be uninstalling Ableton and Sonar now.

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