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tha_rami
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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:23 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 19:24
When reading several posts in this forum, I must admit I have seen some errors that break my vocabulary-orientated heart. My main concern is the word definitely.

As you might or might not have noticed, this word is being spelled incorrectly by even the most respected members of our community, as for example our honored moderator, Ron Erickson (aka WOLF) in the "most well known member"-thread. Now I'll skip my opinion on the phrase "most well known member", as my goal was to improve awareness about the correct spelling of the word definitely.

Luckily, I found I am not the only one who is annoyed by this pure abuse of this beautiful language. After a quick search on Google, I came across the following:

Quote: "The correct spelling is definitely.
Not definately.
Not definatly.
Not definantly.
Not definetly.
Not definently.
And certainly not defiantly.
The correct spelling is definitely."

Source: www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com

P.S. Any eventual spelling and/or grammar errors in this post are the result of pure frustration about the above.


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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:34
Dude, programmers cannot spell for cwap, and normally touch type after a few years.

Personally I got the joint (with one other) highest marks in the county for this big spelling thing the schools did when I was a kid. Reading age well above my age etc etc. After killing a few brain cells in college, and boring a few over 12 years working as a programmer, my once idiot little sister seems better in some areas of spelling. This is someone who once, at the age of 15, pronounced "Duck" instead of "Duke". Hehehe

If there are some problems there I don't care. Just finished work (7.30pm late shift) and I'm shattered. Plus I touch typed this in like a minute.

Groan... need beer...

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:35 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 19:36
thiss is definantly improtamt to no

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:43
Haha, i have always written the word like this: "definetively".

Thanks for the tip.

I sometimes phail on the word "necessary" aswell. Writing it like neccesary, nessecary, nesecsary etc.

But since we're on topic, what's up with the word "colonel"? It's pronounced "cournell". That doesn't add up in my radioactive head.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:43
It's not pronounced cournell. It's pronounced kernal.


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Grandma
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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 19:57
Well that's how i pronounce colonel, people don't speak the same everywere.

Point remains, colonel = Kernal ?

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 20:07 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 20:08
You know what gets on my back, people who are picky about spelling. Its a forum, I don't want to waste time analysing my spelling and grammar when I could and should be downloading pornography!
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Ron Erickson
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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 20:12 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 20:13
the_Rami,

Hey man... I just wanted to let you know I fixed the title of this thread for you.

It is always nice to know how "not" to annoy certain people. I'll definately keep that in mind for future reference


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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 20:20 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 20:21
I love the English language a lot, but I still tolerate people's mistakes, no matter how much it pains me, sometimes it's amusing, especially when companies or even politicians make mistakes. ('Spacial Entrepreneur...') I'm not perfect with the English language myself and understand there are those less perfect.

As for spelling 'definitely' I just think 'finite', where it comes from, equally with recognition, I think of 'cognition'.

People make mistakes in spelling, I made a post earlier today and put 'a' instead of 'an'. It may be painstaking sometimes, but accept it's reality otherwise you'll be getting annoyed at your own mistakes when you make them.

Of course if ppl strt typin lk ths dn i cn xpct u 2 b annoyd or wid ne thin stupid

So lets eat some Pi my friend...

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 20:46
Haha

I make a topic about the spelling of a word, and within two hours the topic title has been adjusted, people are tripping over each other to say how spelling isn't important and Ron intentionally misspells my nickname...

Now that's a good example of Apollo .

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 20:58 Edited at: 5th Oct 2007 20:58
Okay, just let my blend the iPhone...unfortunately I've not very good with blender, so would somebody like Hessiess do the honours so that my joke will be funny. Thank you.

As for misspelling of names and I suppose mispronunciation, well I am the number 1 victim for that...
Mistakes made with my real name
Brynn
Brin
Bryan
Brinn
Brynne
Bryne
And my forum name
Seppoku
Sepukku
Sepeku
Seppeku
Suppoku
Sudoku (just kidding, I'm surprised nobody has done that yet though...) And there's several more variations where that came from.
As for pronunciation, I've been called Brine, Brian, Brain, Bin (And later 'Bryn Laden') Beatrice (no kidding, my name has been read as Beatrice...)

Whereas you just get called 'the rami' or 'the rabi' Sucks to be you.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 21:02
Don't forget: the_rabi, tha_rami, the_rami, tha_ramy, the_ramy, the_raami (twice), the_rammi (often), tha_sucker (someone didn't like me...)... I've not counted people who missed the underscore. Then I've not added variations on my real name: Ramy, Bami, Salami, Origami, Wami, Remi, Rahmee... Thén I've not counted my other fornames... Instead of Ebrahim Mahmoud Hanafy Ismail Mansour Ali Freer you get things as Ibrahim, Abraham, Mammoet (mean Mammoth in Dutch), Hanafi, Hanavi, Ischmail, Ismaël (oooh I hate that one), Mansor, Frere and those things.

I usually have to return my legal papers at least twice if I pass through my information by phone.

Yup. Definately () sucks to be me.


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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 21:08
Quote: "I've not counted people who missed the underscore."

that's funny...

because when my name was just "Peter_" (there is already a "Peter" so i couldn't take it)... almost EVERYBODY (99.72%) meticulously wrote out the underscore... (i.e. "Well sure Peter_ but...etc")

that's why i ditched it heh.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 21:09
Quote: "Sudoku "


I almost have on occasion but I have caught myself.

Quote: "Well that's how i pronounce colonel, people don't speak the same everywere"


So what? Do you say "*Cornell* Mustard used the pipe in the observatory?", or do you say *Kernal* Mustard?


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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 21:19
Would you like to see what I sound like WITHOUT firefox spell checker?


Hey everyone, this Dr. Maenete. I've got the sillz to pay the bils! Slao, speeling isn't hard... i can speel difernately!

Sigh... I hate not being able to spell very well.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 21:48
I also get annoyed with people who say "your" when they should say "you're". Also "there" and "they're".

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 22:40
Opposing force, funnily enough, that does make me cringe, yet I tolerate it...I mean your great and I agree with you're point.

Even made myself cringe there.

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Quote: "As for misspelling of names and I suppose mispronunciation, well I am the number 1 victim for that...
Mistakes made with my real name"


Me too, my real name its Rayco Santana and really often when I got a Letter or a packet from the Iberian Peninsula it comes to "Raico Santana" or "Raiko Santa ana", How they do that mistake if I had write my name correctly previously on the sending address? did they even read what I wrote? its so annoying...


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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 22:59
Yes. Bad spelling people are coks. It's not quite as annoying as "i could care less", but then maybe that one is sarcasm.

BTW, WTF is with all those names? Were your parents having a laugh or what?

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Posted: 5th Oct 2007 23:10
Says Mr Tank...


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Tushay!

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 01:50
Quote: "So what? Do you say "*Cornell* Mustard used the pipe in the observatory?", or do you say *Kernal* Mustard?"


Who cares what i say? Sound doesn't come along that great on a forum or messenger chats, and that's were i use my english 99,9% of the time. And on the 0.01%, i would doubt the situation ever arise were i need to use the word anyway.

@ Sudoku

What about the "Arts" in you're nick? Annoyed that few-none ever refer to you by you're whole nick?

Quote: "Even made myself cringe there."


Your strange person! You're lack of caracter is definetively due to lack of dicipline. Probably because you're kernal wasn't strikt enough when you we're in the militaries. Good diciples is neccesary for well person ideology path goodness phails me *Connection timed out*

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 03:18
I also can't stand when people mix up it's and its. And then there's you're and your. Argh.

tha_rami - Is English your first language?

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I hate improper use of apostrophe's.

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Quote: "I also get annoyed with people who say "your" when they should say "you're". Also "there" and "they're"."

You're means You are. Your means for example "Give me your belongings."
And the other one, There means "Hey look over there!" And They're means they are.

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Just to get rid of this horrid dupe error.

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And then there's their. Like, "There they're standing on their feet".


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Quote: "i would doubt the situation ever arise were i need to use the word anyway. "


I actually take time to capitalize I's.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 03:35 Edited at: 6th Oct 2007 03:41
The English language has always evolved, if it didn't we'd all still be talking in old english.

I think correct spelling isn't important as long as the meaning is clear.

I seem to remebr the word "Ghost" was actualy a typo in a old dictionary and we all still use it because we don't know any better

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Quote: "I think correct spelling isn't important as long as the meaning is clear."


Problem is we can't make meaning clear with a lot of misspellings, and over time our language becomes sloppy.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 03:42 Edited at: 6th Oct 2007 03:45
Says the man from the USA who no longer speaks the Queens English

Tell me how you spell the word "colour"?

Who has the correct spelling? The UK is the original, no?

Does it matter, well not to me but you should hear the way people complain this side of the pond when they have a "color printer" forced upon them

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Quote: "Says the man from the USA who no longer speaks the Queens English"


Quote: "Who has the correct spelling? The UK is the original, no?"


We improved on it, of course! I'm not saying our language shouldn't get simpler, but if we start allowing defiantly instead of definitely it can change the entire meaning!

I defiantly say okay!


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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 03:58 Edited at: 6th Oct 2007 03:59
Definitely they are two different words, but you can take it in the context of the sentence it's in. As im dyslexic that how I have to work

One sentence that always bugged my brain was...

"Man eating shark"

is it, "a shark that eats men", or is it a, "man who is eating a shark"?

Oooh another one news papers use is the "near miss"

how do you nearly miss something? They mean "near collision" surely?

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Quote: "I also can't stand when people mix up it's and its. And then there's you're and your. Argh.

tha_rami - Is English your first language?"


No, I'm Dutch. I do read, write and speak a little English, French, German, Arabic and some very basic classic Latin and classic Greek.

I used to make errors with definitely all the time; one day my girlfriend mailed me a link to that site.

She came over today and she actually reads along when I check the some of the forums (got to love that). When she saw the post Ron made in the "most well known member" thread, she joked he could use a reference to that site as well.


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Quote: "BTW, WTF is with all those names? Were your parents having a laugh or what?"


Names from different cultures, mine is Welsh, so incidentally it'll be yes...as for my parents, for most things yes - they would do that sort of thing I can assure you, but with my name, nope, they did it because I was born on the Welsh border.

@Grandma, I am going to murder you horrifically, you'll suffer so much your ancestors are going to feel the pain and that's only the start, you'll hear so much Elton John, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton that you wish you were never born.

As for the 'Arts' bit, no it isn't annoying, I've got used to it to the point on some forums I just call myself 'Seppuku', the 'Arts' bit was just a game creation thing.


With the language thing and the fact we have a member on the forums called Penfold, I feel the need to mention a 'man eating sandwich'...

On that note I think the 'children for cancer' campaign is completely unethical. Is that you want to give children cancer? or do you want us to swap kids for cancer? I mean if that's so, what can I get for a 6 year that picks his nose all day long?

On last thing is that my version of Firefox came installed with the American Dictionary for spell checker...this is a pain, it tells me off for using 's' instead of 'z', grrr why couldn't you Americans conform to your English masters than fighting for freedom, you know we own you...theoretically I could just change the dictionary, but I want to moan at you for winning the Revolution instead, more fun...

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 11:22
Quote: "I actually take time to capitalize I's."


Well frankly i'm not that much of an egotist.

Quote: "I am going to murder you horrifically, you'll suffer so much your ancestors are going to feel the pain and that's only the start, you'll hear so much Elton John, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton that you wish you were never born."


Ouch... Hey man, i was just kidding. That's the kind of insults you just don't joke around with. It's like joking with the holocaust (which never happened btw).

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Ok, so now we know how to spell it, but what does it mean??

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Someone's having a laugh with the thread title right?

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@Grandma, I know I shouldn't joke around about Paris Hilton, but you know, you called me Sudoku and I think that's a pretty sick thing to do as well - because am I so puzzling that I'm just a number to you? A 2 dimensional grid? Come on man I have some depth! *cries hysterically*

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I see GCSE English is paying off.

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Me no can speel? That unpossible!

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People mixing up 'than' and 'then' is my pet peeve.

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Quote: "People mixing up 'than' and 'then' is my pet peeve."


Than I'll definately be much more careful then I did before.


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Curse Kentaree for making a similar post already, but as I have the avatar to go with it...

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I think Ron is mocking us...Good on him, at least he'll sleep easy tonight

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He'll definately sleep well, seeing that you're post are here and not they're in some serious topic. Than it would be a bigger problem, but its not. We need to remember that being a mod has it's advantages as well. Your a random person anyway, Seppuku .


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I got a B for English literature and a B for English language when I did my GCSE's.

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Quote: "I also can't stand when people mix up it's and its."

Me too, and I see people do it so much.

Quote: "I hate improper use of apostrophe's."

Haha, me too. I think that's probably the mistake I notice the most, when people just throw in an apostrophe in the plural of a noun, or even with a verb (ie. get's).

Quote: "People mixing up 'than' and 'then' is my pet peeve."

I also notice this a lot. People write 'then' so I expect to see a complete sentence following it and instead it's just part of a sentence because they meant 'than'.

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Quote: "I got a B for English literature and a B for English language when I did my GCSE's."

I got an A and a B, it means butt all, my grammar and spelling are still crappy .

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Posted: 6th Oct 2007 21:01 Edited at: 6th Oct 2007 21:02
I nearly flunked in english, i didn't really do a whole lot back in school. Actually, i skipped school most of the time.

I don't hate it when people make some errors in their writing, but i do find it a tad annoying. My #1 annoyance has to be with the use of "their", "there", "they're" and "then", "than".

Quote: "you called me Sudoku and I think that's a pretty sick thing to do as well - because am I so puzzling that I'm just a number to you? A 2 dimensional grid? Come on man I have some depth! *cries hysterically*"


Haha, i place this one in your top ten funniest quotes list.

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