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Geek Culture / Unreal Tournament 3 Demo out

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Raven
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Posted: 19th Oct 2007 23:43
Quote: "Spare me your belittlement, I've worked with enough engines to understand the concept and differences between physics engines, game engines, etc. Any engine worth its salt is modular and the parts can be swapped out."


avoid the real question and respond to an off-comment; gives me all the answer i'd need on the subject.

Making an engine that is modular enough to support PhysX or Havok, is like making one that supports OpenGL or DirectX as the renderer, or supporting multiple base platforms like Wii, 360, PS3 and Windows.

Especially as the base formats supported by both are quite wildly different and propriotry.

You have to trade off features, performance and/or development time in order to incorporate all of that. Why the hell do you think more and more companies are using middleware now.. takes the pain out of most of the choices they make, as it's already being worked on fulltime by someone else.

So all you have to do is come in an give it a bit of fluff and some more specific features to what you're working on at that point.

Source has *only just* become multi-platform compilable, and right now this is only Windows and 360. They have yet to support Wii, Mac and PS3 isn't due for a few more months.

Simple fact of development, unless you're a specific middleware developer you have to make those sacrifices. It is quite rare for an actual game development team produces an engine specifically designed to not just be modified but have entire components replaced quickly and easily with the minimal of fuss?

That's an achievement, and if you actually believe that this is something common-place for engine development then I feel really sorry for you.

Mnemonix
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Posted: 19th Oct 2007 23:58
Why does everything always boil down to personal insults with you Raven?

Does the issue really matter? Is it going to badly affect your lives if you dont prove your own relative points?

Forget about turning this thread into a huge argument and discuss the actual demo.

That goes to Raven and everybody arguing with him. Its pointless.

TheSturgeon(playing me at chess) : I will use my powers of the horse and pwnzor you.
Jeku
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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:18
Well, we've already said our thing about the demo. It was fun, I guess. There, you happy?

Threads are organic and more than not you'll see them shift around from topic to topic. It's normal

Mnemonix
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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 01:49
Im not saying they shouldn't move about, its just daft to resort to insulting people. We are supposed to be mature on this board and you wouldn't speak to the person like that if they were stood next to you would you? You would at least have some respect.

TheSturgeon(playing me at chess) : I will use my powers of the horse and pwnzor you.
Raven
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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 15:37 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 18:37
Quote: "Im not saying they shouldn't move about, its just daft to resort to insulting people. We are supposed to be mature on this board and you wouldn't speak to the person like that if they were stood next to you would you? You would at least have some respect."


heh, that's what you think.
believe it or not, if i didn't have respect for someones opinion and response generally i just ignore them. unless they're just a [MOD EDIT: you know the score!] and acting like an annoying little brother then they tend to get just abuse back not any form of constructive arguement back.

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