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Aaron Miller
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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:06 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:10
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Windows keeps complaining about not being able to activate, yet it is clearly genuine! I have the box to prove it! :/ Any idea why it won't activate? This is the error I get, complaining about I have only 29 more days to activate it... :/ I don't want to buy support from MS just to fix the problem, and I don't want to buy another product key... This sucks. :/

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I have the upgrade to Windows Vista Home Premium. This error has occured before, and I had to reinstall Vista Home Premium. I have UAC turned off, and I have Anti-Virus turned on (But that shouldn't matter because the first time I didn't even have anti-virus, AVG Free Anti-Virus, btw). I doubt it should matter, but I have an AMD 64 3800+ 2.4 GHz processor, and a 2.2 performance rating from Vista.

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Please don't say "Wouldn't have happened with [OS of Choice Here].


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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:10 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:11
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You don't have to buy ms support, you have to call their activation line

Use the automated phone line to verify it. You call a number, you punch in an activation code, if that fails you have to talk to someone on the line, it takes about 10 mins.


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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:11 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:13
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Last time I tried that I was told to go to the MS site and that just told me to buy for help. :/

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I'm not sure where I found it, but I found an error code last time it tried to activate, it said "error code 0x80000000"~~ or something similar. I checked the error code on the list of error codes at MS, it wasn't even listed! But it was in the range of an connection error. :/


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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:13 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:14
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No, The activation line is free, and they should activate you over the phone.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:14
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This happened with a copy of office before, then it just fixed itself, so I don't really have any other suggestion apart from do what jerico said.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:17 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:20
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I got something along these lines, and doing the following fixed it for me:

- Start a CMD as admin
- slmgr.vbs -ipk <serial key here>
- slmgr.vbs -ato

Dunno though, could be caused by loads of things.

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Although it's a vbs, it is a proper component of Windows, it's just disguised for some weird reason


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Quote: "- Start a CMD as admin
- slmgr.vbs -ipk <serial key here>
- slmgr.vbs -ato
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That may work, but I would suspect it would come back with an error just the same.


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@John Y
At 35% now. What's that do?

@Johny_S
What version of MS office did ya use?

@David R
Thanks, I'll have to try that. Where might I find the serial key at though? (Back of case or something?)



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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:29
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Why, why, why, Microsoft, must you make us jump through these activation hoops that merely complicate things and don't in the least prevent piracy?


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Checks that all of your dll's are correct and registered.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:35
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Quote: "and don't in the least prevent piracy?"


It in fact promotes it.


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@JohnY
That gave me this.


So, I assume everything is fine in that area, right?


@Dave R
Gonna try your command line thing.

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Too true. :/


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The serial key is the key you entered when you installed vista. It's on your license sticker on the cd case.


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i have one in virtual PC that I downloaded and it did the same thing. I just had to call them and they fixed it all up right away.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:38
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Yep.

So looks like you will have to choose 'use the automated phone system to activate'. Type your number in, and then talk to the operator. Tell them your problem and they will give you a code to enter.

Alternatively, there might be a knowledgebase article with that error code you found.

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Ah, so really the product key? Okay.

@Osiris
What virtual PC you use? That must have gone terribly slow mate!


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2007 haha, but it was Vista running inside XP and it was running off the ISO I downloaded...so your probably right haha.

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Quote: "What virtual PC you use? That must have gone terribly slow mate! "


I had a chance to try out vmware on my c2d w/ 2 gigs of ram, so I ran fedora core 7 inside of vista, and it ran like it was natively installed, it's not too slow on those core twos, or the quad cores.


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Yeah but since I was off the ISO and it was Vista running inside XP it was slow, because they both take up so much processing power.

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Quote: "I had a chance to try out vmware on my c2d w/ 2 gigs of ram, so I ran fedora core 7 inside of vista, and it ran like it was natively installed, it's not too slow on those core twos, or the quad cores."


Yep, shame graphics acceleration isn't available yet from Microsoft or Vmware though

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True, I was also running in 64bit mode, which I'm sure helped things. I should try running vista on it and seeing how it goes


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You know whats fun, I was bored so I downloaded the Vista ISO and another XP one, so what I did was run Vista in XP and XP in vista.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:48 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:50
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Ah. Well this is the error code I got from running the script. I'll call them (Microsoft) now, maybe I'll get better help than last time.



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haha! How slow did that go?

@Jerico2day
How's the driver support for 64-bit?

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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 00:52 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 00:53
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Quote: "You know whats fun, I was bored so I downloaded the Vista ISO and another XP one, so what I did was run Vista in XP and XP in vista."


That I think would stutter a bit... Reminded me of this article I read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality#We_are_living_in_a_simulation


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Quote: "How's the driver support for 64-bit?"


64bit vista runs as good, compatibility wise as 32 bit vista did on my old machine (32 bit processor on that), however, all the components, (mobo, tuner card, etc) were bought with reviews saying they worked in vista 64.


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Who ever wrote that article about simulated existance has the dumbest logic I think I have ever read

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What version of MS office did ya use?"

I think it was 2003, and I think the full story was I installed it on my computer and got a similiar error to yours, so I uninstalled it and my sister installed it on her computer and it worked and then (this is where it gets weird) I installed it on mine again and it worked :p.

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Quote: "It in fact promotes it."


How so? You're telling me that more people are pirating the software because it's trickier to crack? Ok...

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The forum isn't a good place to talk about cracks, and I do own a legal copy of vista, and if I never wanted to worry about activating my license after upgrading or whatever, it would be a simple procedure that is faster than even calling the activation line.

In fact if you wanted the crack, I could get it and send it to you within a few minutes, and I could do the same for pretty much any software out there.

Will I? No. I don't promote piracy. But I do keep up with what's going on in the underground world.

DRM or License protection doesn't protect the companies, it hurts the honest buyers. There's even software out there that'll strip itune's music of drm turning it into regular mp3s. It's just as easy as ripping music from a cd. It's laughable they even try.

The best example however, isn't vista. It's valve's run of games. If you didn't want to install steam because it's spyware, (honestly, you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise), it's just as easy to get it underground as it is to download it from steam, but then you get to circumvent steam altogether, (minus the multiplayer obviously)

If anyone's reading this and wants me to give them pointers, don't bother, I won't help you.

Feel free to remove this if you think it's over the line with what can be discussed here.


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My version is legit. I couldn't find the MS number because my guardian took me away from my computer because I told her "screw you", so yeah... I'll have to do this tomorrow, hopefully IT works on Saturdays.

@Jeku
Yes, it's a challenge, which all programmers like, well, most anyhow. Course I haven't tried my hand at that, nor do I want to.


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Posted: 20th Oct 2007 11:37 Edited at: 20th Oct 2007 11:37
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I'm not asking how to crack Vista

I'm asking what you mean by this:

Quote: "Quote: "and don't in the least prevent piracy?"

It in fact promotes it."


How does a tougher copy protection "promote" piracy? Doesn't make much sense to me.

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And while I'm here, what do you mean by this?

Quote: "If you didn't want to install steam because it's spyware, (honestly, you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise)"


How is it spyware? Because Valve knows what games you're launching from Steam?

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Quote: "How is it spyware?"


Because it offers no real benefit other than to authenticate your games and to send data home to Valve.

Quote: "It in fact promotes it."


Alright fine, I suppose it doesn't promote it


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I didn't feel this really warranted a new thread, but here's a neat article I read about apple leopard

http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202602196

Quote: "Interestingly, Apple's strategy of less protection for Leopard, officially known as OSX 10.5, actually works to the company's advantage. People downloading illegal pre-release copies often say in chat rooms and discussion forums that they plan to buy a legitimate copy, which was not the same for Windows Vista thieves.

"There's a commonly expressed sentiment among the community to go buy Apple," Garland said. "Many of the people who have downloaded and installed pirated copies have also pre-ordered legitimate copies."

People who downloaded Windows Vista, however, tended to take offense at what they viewed as draconian measures on the part of Microsoft, so felt less inclined to buy a legitimate copy, Garland said. In addition, Mac lovers view Apple's price tag of $129 a better value than the $399 Microsoft charges for its most feature-rich version: Vista Ultimate. "



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I just restrained myself from posting all my rants about Mac Vs. Windows.

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I want to see a Mac Vs. Windows Vs. Linux debate. People would try to rip other people's heads off though.

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Indeed. Course I like seeing Keo C as a sort of Aquaintance/Friend type person, and know he likes Linux and likes defending it. Where as I like Windows, and like defending it. I would rather not argue with others on such a thing.



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My point was about mac's copy protection (there is none), not about mac vs windows, which we all know which one is better


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Ah, okay. Yes, we all do, Windows of course.


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I never used Vista though Aaron, I have nothing to go on. It could be 100 Times better then Linux, but that's not very likely. {Edit} XP has really been a problem for me lately though. It took down 5 programs. Didn't like trying to fix that. Some don't even work still.

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