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hessiess
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 17:15 Edited at: 20th Nov 2007 20:15
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this is my first website, coded manually. i knew absolutely nothing about HTML yesterday morning. made with blender, gedit, gimp and afew internet tutorials

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so is it:

0) absolute rubbish?
1) rubbish?
2) acseptoble?
3) ok?


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Deathead
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 17:44 Edited at: 13th Nov 2007 14:02
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I was just saying that when I post something about my site it gets locked.

[href]http://www.freewebs.com/deatheadstudios/

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Eevil Weevil
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 17:47
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2. Ok

Impossible? Anything is impossible. 48'6F'77'20'64'61'72'65'20'79'6F'75'20'77'6F'72'6B'20'6F'75'74'20'6D'79'20'73'69'67'21

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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 17:51
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Hey man,

being honest and not harsh I would give it a 2 but i'm gonna have to go for a 1. The reason I choose a 1 is because of the various spelling mistakes, It makes you look more of an amateur. Ill give some examples.

'I am a 17 year old amatur 3d modaler'
'I am currently dooing a 2d/3d midia production corce'
'outher 'indestry standerd'
'on bult in liburys of modals, matirials'

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Grandma
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 17:54
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Well i can't ever complain that the buttons are too small.

Other than all the spelling mistakes, it's acceptable for a very first site.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 18:17
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For creativity...3
For Web Design...0

Sorry mate... but that site took ages to load, and did look rather ugly :S (complete honesty)

You should really make the navigation smaller. Also, try a different background color than white, and maybe a different text color.


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 18:23
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Deathead, you're allowed to get some web design feedback if you're posting for the purpose of people actually helping you with your web design skills.

hess, I got a 'server not found' - I'll try back later.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 18:30 Edited at: 11th Nov 2007 18:31
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2. OK. - The navigation is overly large. I recommend you scale that down a bit for usability.

I ran a quick spell-check through it, if you like, use the code box below:



Keep up the good work!


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 19:07
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It's working for me now, what I think:

-Ok

I'm not fond of your front page picture - I don't think it illustrates your site very well. And I'll add that the buttons are too tall. I'm not an expert on web design, but I'd do some research if I were you and see how to lay your website out, how your buttons should look and what makes a good look front page.

But everything is clear and seems do its purpose - though it doesn't look sleek as a professional site, but it doesn't have anything to detract the audience which is a good thing.

Keep it up

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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 19:16 Edited at: 11th Nov 2007 23:19
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make sure to put one of these > after <!DOCTYPE



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Jeff032
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 19:21
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My suggestions:
-Shrink the navigation buttons
-Change the home image, it looks like it's meant for navigation but it doesn't actually do anything
-There really is no need for the copyright thing at the bottom, it's automatically copyrighted by you unless you say otherwise
-C.R.A.P
I'll give it a 2

And I'll throw my website out for "evaluation"
http://people.rit.edu/jrh2365 (in sig too)
-Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional Code
-Coded manually
-CSS for styling
-PHP for menu, header, footer, hit counter, and automatically creating the screenshot pages
-Needs more graphics IMO


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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 21:48
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I give it a 1.5. And definetly good for a first.
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 22:58
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(3) Great for a first. Did you use Bluefish HTML Editor?
or Kate or some other text editor?


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Everything is too bloody big.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 23:01
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For me too. My screen res is a problem for most webpages.


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PowerSoft
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Posted: 11th Nov 2007 23:16 Edited at: 11th Nov 2007 23:18
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It is a nice idea and concept that you have tried to achieve and not a bad first attempt.

I hope you take my following comments in the correct many and don't think I'm merely picking fault. The design does feel quite cluttered and while you have made a good attempt at originality the idea doesn't seem to display out as graphically as you wish. Another point would be the page could be displayed using a different font. This is more of a personal rant as I don't like Times New Roman.

At the present time you are using tables to display and layout your page. If you open w3schools.com they have a plethora of information on DIVS and CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) that will allow you to make some very zany websites. It may seem daunting and as you say you haven't been learning long but these are all steps you can take to make it work better.

I can fully appreciate your spelling issues due to your dyslexia but it would perhaps be useful to get some spelling changed.

With regards to your code just a few pointers. If I resize the page the display will be different. To combat this slightly perhaps consider using percentile widths/heights. In the occasion you do use pixel values I recommend putting a 'px' after it, just so you know. I am also pleased to see you have used ALT tags, that is excellent and important with WCAG/usability concerns.

Keep at it Rob and any questions just give a shout.



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Rich


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Dr Schnitzengruber; could you or a mod edit the post and place the link into a code snippet so the page doesn't scroll? Cheers.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2007 00:53 Edited at: 12th Nov 2007 00:54
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@ deathead:
I,m just asking for crits on the layout, etc. im, not advertising or posting political comments.

@Eevil Weevil:
thanks

@junkrock:
Written content is not my cup of tea. that section took around 4 howers to wright, and i'm lickly to scrap most of it, currently reeds like a rant. it will improve...slowly

@Grandma:
Quote: "Well i can't ever complain that the buttons are too small."

is that a good or a bad?

thanks

@Veintitres:
took ages to load? loads pretty quick here, about 3 seconds for the home page, yes that is from the server. the layout is meant to be clean and simple. with little unesoserry graphical fluf. in my opinion this is what makes a website ugly, simple is better.
the navigation bar is that sise so that it lines up with the home page, il try macing it smaller to see what it looks like. i have only just started learning about web pages, i don't know how to do background color or font color yet

@tha_rami:
as mentioned above, its that sise so that it aliens with the home page image. i intended it to look like brushed aluminum, that dident work very well, so i'l probaly start over.
thank you for spell checking it, il put that on the page to stop people here complaining about it.

@Seppuku Arts:
the picture is just a concept, i havent got anything else to put there.
thank you for the suggestions

@Dr Schnitzengruber:
thank you, the code output by that website is rarther hard to read.

@Jeff032:
it is intended to be for navigation, i just havent done that bit yet. your website looks ok, but its to dark for my taste.

@Guyra:
thanks

@keo C:
thanks. no, i used gedit, the default text editor in ubuntu.

@MonoCoder:
ok

@Keo C:
i use a 19" wide, which is the main resen for the large sise.

@powersoft:

thanks, it was intended to be a simple and clean interface. i'l change the font when i learn how to. i currently find css quite confusing.

i have tryed using css, but it did not line up correctly so i switched back to tables. i'l re make it so you can see what i mean

written work takes a long time(this post took more than a hower to wright), il spell check it when im happy with it.

thanyou for the tips.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2007 01:12
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Quote: "Well i can't ever complain that the buttons are too small."


Quote: "is that a good or a bad?"


If i'm having trouble seeing, it's good. If i have no problems with my eyesight, it's bad. Too big, too big.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2007 01:17 Edited at: 12th Nov 2007 01:21
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If you use Firefox, try the HTML Tidy Add-On
HTML Add-on
Oh and Bluefish Editor is great for HTML, CSS, PHP and more.



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Hey,

Im a musician so I know how annoying writing things are but I can't stress enough the importance of a spell checker, as soon as I hit a word thats spelled really bad I stop reading.

'took around 4 howers to wright, and i'm lickly to scrap most of it'

This sentence for example should have been proof read before posting, it sounds like i'm nit picking but I think if you are trying to look professional these are the things that not even the best looking site in the world can save you from.

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buttons are too big, and why did you use an image for the text at the bottom of the main page? Sorry mate, gotta give it a 1.


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I personally liked the design.

The only thing I can complain about is the fact that you have to scroll down the page to see everything. Maybe you should put previews of the images on the page and then let the user click on them to see them full scale.

I'll give you a 2.5.


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The basic layout is cool, but the buttons are huge. You could make a much cleaner and neater site with some nice basic gradient buttons and some bordered content windows.

Use the same layout, but make the visuals as clean, minimalistic, and tidy as possible.

I'd give it a 2 in its current state if you can get the text and written parts fixed.

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Tom J
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The buttons are too big and some of the text is a bit squashed (e.g. the gallery button). The spelling is also something to focus on - so you'll need to use some sort of spell checker

Other than that, it was good. I would say 2 as it is good for a new site. I like the 3d image on the home page, which for me works well.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2007 23:36 Edited at: 12th Nov 2007 23:37
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Quote: "Tick tick tick lock!"

Deathead, by posting things like that you instantly catapult yourself to noob status, If I were a mod I would have slapped you by now. But fortunately for you I am not. Also, I took a look through your thread history, posting "lock" comments is insanely Ironic.

Now don't take this the wrong way:
On topic now. I'm afraid it's a 0.5 for me. Its a bit "mish mash" you should really avoid using 3D programs for web dev unless you really do know how to render. I suggest using GIMP throughout. I'm guessing those buttons where rendered in Blender?

What you are looking for is "crispness". Images are sharp and clean. Don't over complicate things. stick to a "Theme" throughout your page. Although I like the idea of the 3D front page, the text is all over the place and just a little in your face.
You could do something like this:

I find Darkish greys work well with colours.
Like the website I designed for Veintitres:
http://www.myexpo.co.uk/darkdev
(That site uses tables as layout which I don't do anymore, but I was new to web dev)
Or my abandoned cafepress site:
http://www.cafepress.com/art20

As you can see, having a set style throughout really makes the difference. Even though they aren't amazing designs, they are easy on the eye and more importantly, easier to navigate.

Also another point, I know you are dyslexic, but use a spell checker when possible. I made a bucket load of spelling mistakes writing this post, but they were corrected using the spell checker.

You can find some great Web Dev help here:
http://www.w3schools.com

Cheers,
BiggAdd


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Quote: "Deathead, you're allowed to get some web design feedback if you're posting for the purpose of people actually helping you with your web design skills. "

I done that ages ago and it got locked.

[href]http://www.freewebs.com/deatheadstudios/

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Hey BigAdd, why didn't you use a jello design for that DarkDev page? You can squash it all the way into oblivion now by decreasing the width of the window.


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A ho ho ho. As I said, when I made that page I was new to coding. I'm still not great either


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Posted: 14th Nov 2007 11:31 Edited at: 14th Nov 2007 11:32
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all the images were made in blender, because i suck at anything 2d. if i made it in gimp. it would look like a 3 year old drew it

i have tryed to stick to a theme. the header is the same throwout the site, and everything is aligned to the edges of the header. i would like to have a border like this:



but i dont know how

updated origanal page again, only home and about me changed:

made header less tall

changed background color

home image now works as navigation.

replaced multiple images in a table with single image and image maps

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Firstly, congratulations of the first site.

I have one technical suggestion. Some files are very large. The shoulder test, for example, has three seconds of animation and the file size is 3.7 Mb. You can get a better video codec and compress the video. With 7Zip I could compress that file to 920 kb. We can download those files in few seconds, but some people have painfully slow connections. This change will also save your bandwidth.

Keep it up. I liked the content too. =]

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is this version better? (check link in post 1)

Quote: "I have one technical suggestion. Some files are very large. The shoulder test, for example, has three seconds of animation and the file size is 3.7 Mb. You can get a better video codec and compress the video. With 7Zip I could compress that file to 920 kb. We can download those files in few seconds, but some people have painfully slow connections. This change will also save your bandwidth."


i chose to use avi becouse it has verry good cross platform support. i could re code it into theora which is allot smaller without loosing qualaty, but few people can actualy play it. cross platform suport (besides windows and osx) for formats like quick time and wmv is hopeless, recommend me a good format and i'l recode them.. compressing the files is a posabilaty, but i would profur to have them esaly viewable, and at a good resolution.

bandwidth isnt a problem currently,its hosted on uploader.polorix.net, which is free and has unlimited bandwidth technically its a file host, not a web host, but it works for now.

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il assume its better than the last one, no comments

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Oh, It's much more stream-lined. I like it, easier to navigate.


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any crits on my new sig image?

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Sig: The text is hard to read due to lack of contrast.
Site: Better.


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i have finally worked out how to do a page border

i think it looks nicer now.

@rami, thx, lightend text

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I have almost completly remade the site from scratch, only kept some of the content. How would you rate it now?

good points:
-no image maps
-no tables
-home page is much cleaner

bad points:
-fonts mess up sometimes

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your thoughts on 3DS Max are so far off from the truth...

Anyways the sites a bit bland, I wouldn't use that hesiess model as the intro banner (its good, but he looks bored out of his mind), and you should consider having an "enter" page if this is going to be your portfolio. Enter pages are great, they look clean, and you can go all-out artistic with them since the only real text you need is "enter" and possibly your name or the name of the site. A good way to make a first impression.

I guess I'd rate it a 2 since its your first site, but it needs a lot of work.

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Much, much better!


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A big improvement from the other site although I have some small suggestions:

- Work on the navigation menu, the size and font of the links dont't seem to work with the main content for me.
- You may want to remove the contradiction in the News section and free 3d modelling service section. In one you say you are currently offering modelling services and the other says you are not.

Other than that, looking good

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I will judge the source code only:

* Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional
* Tableless design

so I have to give you 4 out of 5.

Very well done!

If you manage to use a separate *.css file (link it in the <head> tag) and create some image hover effects then - 5/5

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mailto: will get you nothing but viagra spam concider using a comment CGI instead.

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Quote: "mailto: will get you nothing but viagra spam"

Yep,
PHP is the way to go...

http://yuppieserve.com/fpsc/

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Just noticed the Chinchilla world image is off, because Africa is off of the earth's axis at that angle.


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Not really sure what you mean, Aaron, but the image looks good to me.


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The new site looks much better Hessiess

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Small issue here but it caught my eye...in your footer:

Quote: "If you ask I'm lickly to say yes"


lickly should be likely


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Quote: "Quote: "mailto: will get you nothing but viagra spam"
Yep,
PHP is the way to go...
mailto: will get you nothing but viagra spam concider using a comment CGI instead."


good timig, i am just starting to learn php. how exactly should i set that up? have a input with one ofthose funny image things, then a php script mail it to me. or just add it to a database/ text file? i would like to code everything myself: you don't learn much from using other peoples code

you can view the new page at www.hessiess.dyndns.org
nothing much has changed obviously, the header, footer, and list of images are added using php. so I only haft to change one file and it is applied to the whole site. the tuts and resources page currently dus not exist

thanks for the comments
Quote: "If you manage to use a separate *.css file (link it in the <head> tag) and create some image hover effects then - 5/5 "

i am using a linked CSS file on most of the pages now

Quote: "Just noticed the Chinchilla world image is off, because Africa is off of the earth's axis at that angle."


the image was never intended to be accurate. it's meant to be humorous

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2) acceptable

Nice clean design, easy navigation, color scheme is excellent. As people have said, spelling is bad in some places, but I would assume either you are not that great at spelling (welcome to my side of the boat, mate) or you're not a native speaker of english. So no worries bout that, just fix up the spelling and you're golden.

One other thing that might not have been mentioned, on the links page the last sentence goes out of the lined box. I'm using firefox v2.0.0.11, so maybe this is a firefox problem.

Overall, much better than anything I've ever made. And yea, get that email protected or else you'll be seeing a lot of emails from some strange people.


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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 02:31
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Sorry, all I meant was the world was like...turned on it's side. Ha ha. The site looks good though.


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