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AlanC
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 05:36
I just got this new phone a week ago.



http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=960


I paid $450 for it, but I love it.

Dr Schnitzengruber
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 06:10
I despise cell-phones.

Michael S
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 06:47
Whos the service provider?


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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 08:59
John Smith is looking forward to seeing you soon.

He cute?

Raven
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 14:13
doesn't this belong in the locked section?
i'm sure your excited about this and all, but seriously BLOG IT

I've been lead to believe that is what these blog things are suppose to be for (rather than what most developers i know use them for ) so ya know make a blog add your friends and let them know the intimate details of your electronics life.

5867Dude
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 19:50 Edited at: 27th Nov 2007 19:50
Quote: "I paid $450 for it, but I love it."

That phone sells for £120 ($240) with a £20 top up in the UK!

Yeah I want one of these phones


But I'll proberly get a



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Keo C
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 20:09
Quote: "I despise cell-phones."

So do I.


NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 20:17
I despise most Sony Ericson phones, mostly because of the disgraceful keypads, over-polished operating system that often lags behind the user as it flicks through various special effects and confusing soft key button layouts that are unique to Sony.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
Benji
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 20:19
My brother got this phone for free somehow:

http://us.lge.com/chocolate/

Robin
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 20:34
Samsung phones are best...
had an e900 for a year, when the contract ran out it was still in perfect condition and I could sell the handset on for a reasonable sum. Never have any problems with them.

Now have a U600 *11.1mm thick* (thinner when you slide it out too). And the camera is 3.2mp too.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 22:12
I have a D600. It's great except for four niggles:

Poor loudspeaker, although I always have it on rumble
There seems to be some barrier between the phone memory and the memory card, and it doesn't think to save things to the card instead of the phone when the phone's 80mb runs out.
Fixed message tones - whose idea was that?
Can't play music and do something else at the same time.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
Robin
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 22:21
The u600 speakers have technology by bang and olufsen Though yeah, you can't look at photos/use the camera when playing music. You can send texts though.

Oh, and i just checked the tech data, it's actually 10.9mm thick

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Raven
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 02:42
Quote: "I despise most Sony Ericson phones, mostly because of the disgraceful keypads, over-polished operating system that often lags behind the user as it flicks through various special effects and confusing soft key button layouts that are unique to Sony."


Depends on the model you get really, the low-end ones run on a JavaOS which is just damn slow; but their high-end UIQ3 ones are pretty damn responsive.

That said I seriously hate their move from control-sticks to a twitchy (and freaking large) d-pad. The keypads are different between the models too, for example the K510i that I current have as an emergency phone (have an iPhone as my normal one) has really well spaced out keys that are easy to press and feel nice.

But the model my brother has K850 or something, feels like it was put together with the cheapest materials ever.

This said, despite prefering their menu system the most; I've since replaced the OS on my K510i with an XMB style.. works very nicely

Quote: "had an e900 for a year, when the contract ran out it was still in perfect condition and I could sell the handset on for a reasonable sum. Never have any problems with them."


Samsung are very quirky design.. don't like how the buttons constantly change their context either; but they feel quite low quality and it's difficult (atleast for me) to press the buttons and hit just one.. or for it to register without hammering it.

Then you get down to the OS design itself and god, it's like it was put together by someone who loves hiding things behind endless menus.

That's partly why I dislike Nokia as well actually, because the whole phone is built-up from pure shortcuts for everything .. so in order not to hit the wrong thing by mistake you've got to really know the damn thing inside out. Generally get too pissed off quickly with it.

Wish more phones had the option (or atleast hackable option) to replace the OS.

Dazzag
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 13:21
Quote: "I despise most Sony Ericson phones"
I dunno, I still like my one. Best feature by far I think is the background task functionality. Constantly have one particular Java game in the background to rejoin instantly from where I left it at any point. Nice. Think I can have 2 constantly in the background. If someone can point out if the iPhone plays Java games at a decent rate and has similar background task capabilities then I would be well interested.

Used to totally buy Motorola (loved my StarTac and V50). But the OS sucked big style. Other hated brand recentlyish (about 3 years ago) was a Samsung I bought. Looked bloody amazing, but had an OS that makes Sony look like Vista, and games ran at ZX81 pace. Even the included Samsung optimised games ran like treacle. We are talking bowling type games here!!!!

Never touched Nokias as I never liked the looks of their screens. Plus they are normally generic ugly bricks.

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Raven
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 14:56
Quote: "If someone can point out if the iPhone plays Java games at a decent rate and has similar background task capabilities then I would be well interested."


If it played any, I'd be happy.
Has minesweeper, but that's about it. Apple refuse to let anyone develop anything but widgets for the dang thing, and even those have to go through several layers of red-tape.

About the only thing, I particularly miss on a regular basis is playing things like Worms3D Forts or such. It's a shame the Sony to make PSP Walkman phone turned out to be nothing but a rumour.

If they added touch and cellphone capabilities to the PSP, it'd be the only thing I'd carry around.

Quote: "Used to totally buy Motorola (loved my StarTac and V50). But the OS sucked big style. Other hated brand recentlyish (about 3 years ago) was a Samsung I bought. Looked bloody amazing, but had an OS that makes Sony look like Vista, and games ran at ZX81 pace. Even the included Samsung optimised games ran like treacle. We are talking bowling type games here!!!!"


Motorola sacrified memory and battery life for size with their V3 Razr things. Shame as the StarTac and V50 were quite good.
Seems to be the way recently though, most phones are going downhill.. adding more but ultimately being able to provide less in real-time.

Have conference calling ability on my K510i, but for some annoying reason everytime I try to use it; keeps hanging up both calls, yet I can do hold calling on up to 16 people.

Just bloody stupid tbh.

Kentaree
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 15:11
Nicest phone I've ever had was the HTC XDA II, more of a computer than a phone. Atm I'm running on a Sony Ericsson K610i, decent phone, plays quite a few games without a hitch, and the interface is snappy enough. I've gone off Nokias for 2 reasons: I worked with them in my last job, and they have the worst Java implementation ever, and they break so damn easily, most people I know who had low to medium end Nokia phones only had them for a few months before they broke.

Dazzag
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 16:44
Mine is the Sony W850i. Still a good phone and have had it for a while. Also pretty nice to look at IMO. One annoying thing I find though is when a phone doesn't have the model on it anywhere. Well annoying, and most don't. So had to dig out manual to find out.

Quote: "Motorola sacrified memory and battery life for size with their V3 Razr things"
Yeah, I wasn't a massive fan of the V3. And also as far as I'm concerned thin is great, but not at the expense of sheer surface area. If you want a big screen then great, but prefer a more compact model myself, and thin doesn't do much but look good. Much like those super thin Samsungs. No thanks.

Quote: "If it played any, I'd be happy"
What so it can only play what comes with the phone? Really?..... Totally don't want the massively overpriced brick now. You just know the novelty of scrolling pictures around with your fingers is going to run out real fast. But no Java games????? No way. I would even maybe consider it without background task functionality (even though all other top end phones are doing it these days), but not without any Java games. What a laugh. God, people just buy it for the phone and iPod functionality then? Surprised cos that is pretty crap. Nice GUI is one thing but hell...

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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 18:41
I like brick phones too. Very comfortable. And keep your touch sensitive rubbish. I've tried to make a phone call on an e900 before, and my ear hit the touch sensitive red key, which immediately ended the call. Why are touch sensitive buttons being used? They're rubbish! No tactile feedback, and I keep closing programs by accident on every touch sensitive phone I've used. I have fat thumbs. I can't help it. Mechanical buttons for ever!


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
Raven
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 20:52
Quote: "What so it can only play what comes with the phone? Really?..... Totally don't want the massively overpriced brick now. You just know the novelty of scrolling pictures around with your fingers is going to run out real fast. But no Java games????? No way. I would even maybe consider it without background task functionality (even though all other top end phones are doing it these days), but not without any Java games. What a laugh. God, people just buy it for the phone and iPod functionality then? Surprised cos that is pretty crap. Nice GUI is one thing but hell..."


I got it cause, well someone was stupid enough to bet it
Still was wanting one, because of being able to have e-mail, messenger, internet, full conference calls, replace my video i-pod, etc..

I mean while it's not small, it does replace several devices in my pocket/bag. Less overall risk imo

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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 21:11 Edited at: 28th Nov 2007 21:11
My phone beats all your phones!



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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 22:04 Edited at: 28th Nov 2007 22:06
Quote: "Still was wanting one, because of being able to have e-mail, messenger, internet, full conference calls, replace my video i-pod, etc.."
Don't get me wrong, if I was still in the UK I would have probably got one on the release date, and totally regretted it later (like the Samsung). But it won't replace my 60gb video iPod because it has nowhere near the capacity, and surely the internet is a bit naff if outside a wifi zone? I mean no 3G surely sucks most of the time.

But even so I would have still got it (I mean I have a really good Sony MP3, a 60gb video iPod, and a 4gb Walkman phone, and still only use the iPod for music) cos it looks really nice. But not now that it is hopeless for Java and has no background task functionality. Cannot say how greate that is for quick blasts inbetween things like your girlfriend going to the toilet and the like. Sure your game might load up real fast but then you start from scratch. I carry on instantly from where I left off. Nice.

Hopefully then someone brings out a phone with a comparible interface (they must all be upping their game now) but with all the superior functionality we are used to. With any luck we will go back to proper pricing too (mine was £250 brand new when the phone had only been out for a week or two and totally unlocked ie. no contract), but can well see Apple has cocked up the decent UK mobile phone market prices. Bet all their top phones now cost £300 *plus* £35 a month contract price. God...

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Raven
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Posted: 28th Nov 2007 23:28
Quote: "Don't get me wrong, if I was still in the UK I would have probably got one on the release date, and totally regretted it later (like the Samsung). But it won't replace my 60gb video iPod because it has nowhere near the capacity, and surely the internet is a bit naff if outside a wifi zone? I mean no 3G surely sucks most of the time."


Well that's not really too much of a bother.
I mean sure I've lost 3G with it, but that said O2 have done a good job with making sure Edge was fully supported almost as much as 3G is.

On 3G I was often lucky to get about 7-8kb/s where-as Edge I'll get a nice steady 256kb/s. Even streaming videos from appleTV and iTunes are pretty slick.

Although that said I've yet to really use it extensively outside of home or the office (both have WiFi) so it might have a handful more blackzones i don't know about.

You have a good point though, although I get £20/month contract; the phone price is a tad much when you include the contract cost too. That said it is still a cheaper release than the US got in March. (comparitively speaking)

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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 08:53
Quote: "You have a good point though, although I get £20/month contract; the phone price is a tad much when you include the contract cost too. That said it is still a cheaper release than the US got in March. (comparitively speaking)"
Yeah, but when similar phones with miles better functionality and decent cameras are completely free with £20 a month contracts then it is hard to justify. If this effects the way we have always bought mobile phones in the UK then will be most annoying. Normally you shell out loads (when the phone is new on the market) to have an unlocked phone and use cheap pay as you go, or you sign up for a year on a contract and get pretty much any phone for free (or practically peanuts). You don't shell out loads *and* pay a contract too. Would have to be bloody holographic for me to do that

And did you see the price of the unlocked iPhone they have done in Germany (to comply with the law I would imagine)? Something like £700 ($1500). Good god, unless it was made out of gold and diamonds we never had to pay that much for a top phone! We may seem to be ripped off for everything else in this country (compared to he US), but not mobiles!

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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 16:15
Quote: "Bet all their top phones now cost £300 *plus* £35 a month contract price. God.."

Yeah the Apple iPhone is just taking the mick-O2 are the only ones who can have it, £260 AND A 18 MONTH, £35 A MONTH for a phone that looks nice! Really apple shoulden't charge that much considering its only got a 2 Megapixel Camera and this is there first mobile!


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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 18:54
Quote: "only got a 2 Megapixel Camera"


2 Megapixel is fine, just the focus that needs a bit of work on most phones, as the focus is static.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
David R
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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 19:13
The Nokia N95 (surprisingly) features a rather nice Carl Zeiss lens with auto-focus, which rather surprised me the first time I heard


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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 19:30
Quote: "2 Megapixel is fine, just the focus that needs a bit of work on most phones, as the focus is static."


true my phone and digital camera both have 3megapixel but my camera has far superior image quality.

you get what you pay for with that, although my iphone isn't too bad; i mean atleast things aren't blurry just zoomed in it isn't even close to as good!

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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 19:54
I'm still using the AT&T 500. (image attached) It's a little obvious to carry around and I get a few looks, but it still works fine for the car.

Best.

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Raven
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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 21:12
The new LG Vision or whatever it's called has been getting praised for it's camera recently (also the adverts main selling point)

I'll be happy when all of these products and features phones do work nicely in all fields not just one.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2007 21:30
The LG Viewty?...yeah, seems it's basically a 5mp camera, with phone capabilities. 3" touchscreen is nice too...



just a bit fat for me...17mm ... will wait a while till they get thinner.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2007 22:22
One of my friends has that... it's great until it crashes. Which it does constantly.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...

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