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Geek Culture / Why I stopped being a programmer!

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RickV
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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 00:35
I have just found an old game I made on my Atari 8-bit on YouTube. It really should have been destroyed into vapourware. But like some sturdy germ it's managed to hang on and replicate itself.

Take a gander here:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=njxKxMNul9w

Do you like the music? I transcribed it from some sheet music

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 00:44
That game looks awesome! I would love to find videos of my games on YouTube

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 00:44
Haha cool.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 00:45
Wow...the Atari 800XL was the second computer I ever owned...it was the best computer for making video games at the time in my opinion.
You might think about making your 800XL programs available to those who have an 800XL or an 800XL emulator.
That's some fairly impressive music for an Atari 800XL game.
I had a lot of fun with my 800XL until it met an unpleasant death via a fairly large amount of iced tea...

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 01:03
very nice rick , retro!!


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 01:33
Hey, that's cool! What did you write it in?

We used to have an Atari 800, and then we had a 130xe. One of my friends had an 800xl. They were all pretty much compatible with each other. Seeing that just brings back a LOT of memories. *sniff*

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 01:44
Very cool Rick! I didn't realize that you used to do some programming! Very retro. Brings back some memories of the good old days!


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 02:02 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 02:05
Quote: "Hey, that's cool! What did you write it in?"


I'm assuming Atari Basic. I still have my old 400 in the closet The atari had a 4 voice music register, that used numeric codes for the notes. Iirc it had quite a few octaves in range. You basically played a note and then specified a time delay loop to "hold" the note. (FOR T=0 TO 500:NEXT T - lollar) Rick most likely stored the score in Data satements

brings back memories, just not sure if fully accurate - haha

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 02:40 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 02:42
I still wish my 130xe hadn't died. I had hundreds of disks for it, but alas, it died, and so I gave it and the disks away to the neighbors to see if they could fix it. Nothing ever happened of it. That was 1998 when it finally died. I would still use it and program on it back then, even though I was quite proficient with PCs at that time.

CR,
This was my first Atari BASIC program:
10 FOR X=0 TO 255
20 POKE 710,X
30 NEXT X

I also remember BASIC being case sensitive -- all commands had to be UPPERCASE.

That would make the screen alternate through all the colors. It was slow enough back then, it was like a 1/2 second delay between each color change. I can't believe I still remember the proper POKE command, lol.

Edit: I even remember how to load files from the disk in the drive when you're in BASIC:
LOAD "D:MYFILE.BAS"

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 03:07 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 03:11
hehe, lucky you hyrichter, all fancy with a disk drive - I could only dream about that. I had (and still have) the cassette tape storage device . The tape had to be cued up to the right spot via the analog counter on the unit itself (hahaha). When you ran CLOAD the tape would play and you would hear those analog to digital squelches, like modems make when they first dial up and connect. The machine would read in the audio data, and I assume it would read an End marker, that was saved at the end of the data, because eventually the tape would stop playing and the screen gave some prompt that it was done. Then you'd type LIST to see your code (if all went well) HAHAHA.

you knew what was on your tapes by writing it down:
game 1-45
app x 50-72
etc....

if you hit the reset button on the tape drive while the tape was not at the beginning, you had to rewind it and press reset again, then go to the start of your data block, or else youd load or save not where you wanted to. very high tech for 1982 haha. Oh yeah, CSAVE

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 03:13
I had an entire box of 5-1/2" floppies for the old commodore 64. I think that was the first time I tried programming...I was so young I didn't know what SAVE or LOAD meant, I just kinda guessed as I went along...Lot of trial and error.


lol @ POKE.
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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 04:22 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 04:23
Hehe, lucky you CattleRustler, I always wanted a tape drive, but by the time I was old enough to know anything about computers, I couldn't ever find one. The Atari I had was given to me by a friend whose older brother gave it to him. I thought a tape drive would be cool because in the manual, it said you could make it play audio tapes. Now you're making me want to go looking on eBay again for some of this stuff. Maybe I'll settle for an emulator.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 04:31
All this game needs now is a large, planet destroying meteor...

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 11:11
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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 13:05
Hehe everyone has to make a lightcycles game when learning to code, it's why the Point(x,y) command was invented .

Quite cool that it's actually on YouTube, did it get released commercially Rick?


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 13:57
Very nice It got me in the mood to watch other Youtube retro game videos.

Related question - when is the next retro compo planned? Watching those videos made me miss my Commodore 64.


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 14:16
A retro compo would be a welcome distraction, something to keep me sane over the xmas holidays . Prizes are hardly a major draw, anyone up for just making some little retro games for xmas? - if we keep them small then we could just put them all together as a single download.


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 14:54
Van, sounds like a good idea to me, I'll enter if I manage to find some spare time over christmas

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 15:04
All those in favour of a retro comp say 'Aye'

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 15:06
Will there be bonus points for remaking this fishing game?

That's very cool. I think all of my Speccy and C64 software is gone forever . I expect my version of Outrun for the Link480z machines at my school (a couple of decades ago) is long gone too
My brother may have my Amiga in one of his cupboards. Mmmm. I will have to ask him if my disks are still intact and maybe get all nostalgic.


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 17:21
Quote: "A retro compo would be a welcome distraction, something to keep me sane over the xmas holidays"


There is this: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=119194&b=1

It's not specifically a retro contest, but there is no reason why an entry can't be retro. Contest details to be announced on 16th December.



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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 21:13
Quote: "Wow...the Atari 800XL was the second computer I ever owned"


Same here! And it's in the loft - might even still work. Have a horrible feeling I've lost the source code for the only "games" I made on it: one was written purely in Basic, the other used some machine code subroutines as well to get a nifty effect on screen.

The sheer speed of machine code routines as opposed to basic commands was a real eye-opener at the time. The human interface side of things was best done in Basic - but sheer number-crunching or memory/image processing was best done in machine code (6502 if I recall correctly).

I really miss the Atari Basic SOUND function - it was simplicity itself to get sound effects into your games.

Quote: "A retro compo would be a welcome distraction, something to keep me sane over the xmas holidays . Prizes are hardly a major draw, anyone up for just making some little retro games for xmas? - if we keep them small then we could just put them all together as a single download."


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 21:48
Quote: "Contest details to be announced on 16th December."

That's my birthday... maybe it's a sign that I should enter, hehe.

I have a few old IBM computers (I'm a pack rat and keep my old systems basically forever)... I'd love to take a 5.25" floppy drive from one of those and pop it into my modern computer to play some of the old scrollers and text adventures I made when I was a kid, in BASIC and BASICA. Then I could put them on the net and let people get a good hearty laugh out of them, lol. But I've been told by a few people it wouldn't work with XP because they got rid of DOS, and the C Prompt in XP "couldn't handle it" or something. Does anyone know if that's true or not?

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Posted: 6th Dec 2007 00:05
c prompt in xp is 32 bit, not dos 16 bit, but you can get dosbox emulator, or make one of your old machines into a true dos machine. I did that here with a piece of junk my father-in-law had lying around, so I can run The 7th Guest and Cyberia when im in the nostolgic mood You could probably find emulators and roms for old old stuff as well

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Posted: 6th Dec 2007 04:58
That's awesome advice CR, ty!

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Posted: 6th Dec 2007 13:25
I think I coded that in Atari Basic and I may have used an interrupt down the screen to change the background colours, something like this:

SEI
PHA
TAY
PHA
TAX

Code...

PLA
TAX
PLA
TAY
PLA
RTI

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