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Super Nova
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I recently purchased some computer parts and had a go at assembling a pc. The case came with a motherboard, 2 dvd drives, a floppy drive, and a processor already on it so I got a new psu, video card, hard drive, and ram to set up. Installed all the hardware correctly (according to BIOS and no beep errors)

here are the full system specs...



here is the new hardware I installed...

160gb seagate sata harddrive
2gb sdram (2 chips)
430 watt psu
geforce 7800 gs video card (agp)


After hardware installation, I went on to install windows xp home edition. I have a new copy of win xp that is the full edition.
After getting through driver loading, the message "setup is loading windows" appears for a few seconds (as normal), the screen goes blank for a few seconds, then a blue screen of death appears saying "session 3 initialization error"

The specific location in the error
STOP: 0x0000006F(0xC0000020,0x00000000,0x00000000, 0x00000000)

Several attemps at decreasing hardware to a minimum have had no affect. Hardware still attached to the computer during setup is as follows

dvdrw drive
dvdrom drive
floppy drive
geforce 7800 video card
2 gb ram (2 chips)
160 gb sata harddrive
3.2 ghz processor

I dont know what else to do, ANY help or comments will be greatly appreciated.

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Keo C
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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 04:57
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Try this?


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Super Nova
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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 05:04
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@ Keo C
Thank you for the link but that persons problem was to small of a harddrive, my harddrive is 160gb, so that cannot be the issue.


Any other ideas?

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 05:05
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Google the stop code and look through all the results till you find one that may apply to you.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 05:10 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 05:34
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@ Agent dink
I can assure you that ive spent the last few hours (and even now am) doing just that, but almost all the threads google finds are atleast 2 years old. I am trying to see if someone on these boards has had a similar problem or knows something useful.


EDIT:
Gonna go try some other methods, which means I need to unplug this computer for a while, Ill be back later to tell of success or failure.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 08:18 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 08:34
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First off use only one dvd drive for now.Connect to ide1 and make sure it is set as Master Drive using jumper on back.Also try not to use an ULTRA ATA CABLE (80 PIN) use (40 pin) made for cd or dvd drives.

Check the MotherBoard for it's Product name, usually printed on the motherboard, And do a search for the latest Bios and how to update your MotherBoard usually a dos 1:bootup floppy disk 2:floppy disk with Bios utility tool and the .rom file.
to do this make sure in the BIOS first boot device is floppy a:
and seek other device is enabled or seek floppy is enabled.
'This is not really required but may help'

If you are not setting up a raid system (2 or more hard drives)
make sure to go into the Bios and disable raid or sata2
You may need to try diffent settings here.
And of coarse when setting up Windows XP go into Bios and set first boot device TO DVD OR CD DRIVE.

Make sure you also have a floppy disk with the proper Raid or SATA
drivers on it. It can be found at manufacture downloads usually or on the cd that comes with the motherboard sometimes in driver folder then disk something.
The driver from the CD that comes with the motherboard is usually the best choice.

When Xp install starts up it will ask you to press F6 if you want to install other drivers, make sure to press F6 when you see it near the bottom.

Later it will ask you to press S to install driver from floppy,
make sure the floppy disk with the raid or sata drivers
is in then press S, select driver with up and down keys then press enter.
Try to install all XP drivers, so if you notice more than 1 driver keep pressing S till all XP drivers are installed.

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Use only one stick of RAM (and if it still doesn't work, switch the RAM to the 2nd chip)... I'd almost be willing to bet they are causing the issue. I've seen so many an issue arise from bad RAM during a Windows install...

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 09:28
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@ JulesD
"First off use only one dvd drive for now.Connect to ide1 and make sure it is set as Master Drive using jumper on back."
I had tried only one dvd drive before with it set up as master but still didnt work.

@ Agent Dink
"Use only one stick of RAM (and if it still doesn't work, switch the RAM to the 2nd chip)... "
That was one of the last things I tried but that didnt even work, I was so sure it would too...

Thank you guys very much for the info. but I went ahead and installed windows 2k with no issues at all. This makes no sense why I could install win 2k but not xp. Im really tired, ill deal with it tomorrow. Again, thank you.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 13:11
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sounds like the xp install is dying at the step where it checks the video card - screen goes black when that part starts, thats normal, but then it should come back. Youre saying its bsod there so... do you have some other video option to try, to get xp installed? I only skimmed the replies above, sorry if this was already stated.

you should try reinstall with a generic video card, or onboard video enabled.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 15:14 Edited at: 5th Dec 2007 15:16
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Definitely try sticking the SATA drivers on a disk and pressing the relevant key when booting to the XP install disk (where it asks if you have any additional drivers to use e.g. SCSI). I had a major problem installing XP on my new machine at work leading to blue screens, even with RAID turned off.
If you had a driver CD with your motherboard they should be on there but they probably won't be accessible from any menu system. They will just be in a directory on the disk. You may need another machine to extract them and copy them onto a floppy (or CD). Failing that, as JulesD said, they should be on the manufacturers Web site.
Windows XP and SATA have led to lots of installation problems so that might be a good place to start a new Google session.


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Posted: 5th Dec 2007 17:04
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Windows XP didn't have SATA drivers if I remember correctly you had to introduce a driver on a floppy disk whne the install process started. Vista is better for SATA stuff really.

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I tried 2 other video cards, an ATI Radeon 9200se (agp) and a Geforce FX5200 (pci) with no success, and there is no onboard video option.

@Zappo
I tried using another harddrive that was IDE with no success so it wasnt a harddrive issue.


More questions...

1.) Looking through the hardware now, it appears that the built in sound device on the motherboard is not functioning, do you think that could the issue?
If so, I have no clue how to deal with that because Im not about to mess with the motherboard...

2.) I was thinking I could install winxp on a different computer and switch the harddrive to this one, but I dont know what to expect from doing that. Would there be some issues switching harddrives like that?

I really appreciate your help.

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if the mobo is shot then theres no point in doing the install/hdd swap thing. try disabling the onboard audio if you can via the bios. If its dead or malfunctioning there then you might be up the creek on this endeavour.

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"if the mobo is shot then theres no point in doing the install/hdd swap thing."

The motherboard is functioning (im using it right now), and I was able to install win2k with it, just doesnt make sense that winxp would have an issue if win2k doesnt. Ill try to disable it via bios but the bios doesnt have alot options like that, I really need to upgrade my bios... another thing i dont feel comfortable doing.

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Posted: 6th Dec 2007 12:36 Edited at: 6th Dec 2007 12:37
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Quote: "Looking through the hardware now, it appears that the built in sound device on the motherboard is not functioning"


So in 2k all is well? If so, upgrade the bios and try xp again.

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I've have the same problem every time I re-install windows, I honestly don't know why.

When it starts to load the drivers, hit either F5, F6, F7 or F8 (I can't remember which one it was, just mash them all, thats what I do) and it should take you to a screen asking about bios drivers or disk drivers. Just try each one of the selections that comes up, One of the should work as it has worked for me every time I do it. (My selection comes up with one item and then "Other") I don't think selecting other works, just asks you to insert a disk.

You will know it has worked when the "Setup is loading windows" stays there for a while

Hope this helps, sorry I can't be a bit more specific.

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Have you tried a different XP install disk, the one you have may be faulty.

See if you can find an old working IDE drive and try on there first, and connect only that one drive, and there should be no problems there.
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