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Ermes
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Hi men, what do you think to create a "club" for skilled users of db and dbpro?

or like in the army, promotions to private to captain, colonel, or like karate, 1st level, 2nd level...

as in the previous post, i see most of we think there are very few users capable to think a game, develop it an make it complete, so , why not give they a reward???
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Andy Igoe
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In many ways Apollo is a club, only without the suggested ranking system.

In which care you might also consider www.realgametools.net

Whether the owner there can connect to the internet or not, they do have a kudos system.

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The kudos system has is more of a negative thing than a positive. People seem to be worried about negative kudos, so they never post a single negative comment, even when its ANOTHER sphere on a matrix demo (cries!)

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That's a good point you're bringing up.

Fact is,while I don't post everything that crosses my mind,I do post everything I think and believe in and if someone thinks he knows better then it's just great,that'll make two of us if that's ever the case.

Problem is,we're doing this through the secure/hidden comfort of the internet so (emphasis)alot(emphasis) of users don't 'show their real selves' therefore using all kinds of 'images' and defense mechanism much often relied to a fear of being judged...

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rob k, you seem to be very frustrated with sphere on matrix demos.... maybe you should try making one and you might surprise yourself over just HOW impressive a sphere on matrix demo could be

uk.geocities.com/maniacimagine check it out. ill soon be formally opening it.
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Ian T
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Posted: 19th Jun 2003 18:19
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It's called DBDN

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DBDN isn't for skilled users, it's for people with money to burn and people who can be bothered with the 20-line challenge.

If you can't beat them, use a stick.
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Ermes
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can someone tell me for what use DBDN is???

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"HOW impressive a sphere on matrix demo could be"

Unsurprisingly, that was the first thing I ever did, except the sphere rolled properly and had proper physics.

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Quote: "can someone tell me for what use DBDN is???"


- Beta Patchs for DarkBASIC/DarkBASIC Pro
- Beta Versions of other DarkBASIC Software
- Development Diaries of all of the DBS Members
- Direct Communication with ALL of the DBS Team

there are alot of other reasons but those are the main, i mean i've heard that DBDN members currently have a sneak preview of the new IDE - and we're all still waiting just to find out what it hoped to be included into it.

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Ian T
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'i mean i've heard that DBDN members currently have a sneak preview of the new IDE'

I'll tell you that I know if that's true or not, but I can't tell you either way because the contract covers me

DBDN is an excellent community of skilled coders. They also get to beta test patches, look at new features early (which comes with the previous), look at the dev diaries, and yes, as Raven said, all of the DBS team is there and in much more direct contact. It is well worth the money for signing up, and the cost keeps the riffraff out.

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Martyn Pittuck
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I have signed 2 DOND's for DBS so does the double negative rule work?

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if the cost keeps the riff raff out then why is Mouse a member
<jk> ( sorry! but you just HAD to know that was coming when you wrote that line )

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Ian T
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Mart-- LOL


(Actually Mentor I'm NOT a member anymore-- even more options for satire for ya )

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Solidz Snake
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Posted: 20th Jun 2003 01:06 Edited at: 20th Jun 2003 01:06
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club? *highschool memory zaps back in time*

when are we going on THAT camping trip?
$5 membership?? thats a rip off!!
can i be the president? please?
hey, this club sucks more than the reading club!
can i see the list of girl members?
u want me to bake WHAT for our trip??
i thought this is a fun club, why should i do any work?

*memory returns to present time*

hey, thats a great idea Ermes! lol!

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Quote: "keeps the riffraff out"

What makes you think just because someone has money they are a good coder, and just because someone doesn't they aren't?

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Ian T
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Witchbomber, use elementrey logic, would you? Just because a square is a rectangle dosen't mean a rectangle is a square. Similarly, just because all riffraff are not paying people, dosen't mean that all paying people are riffraff. Jeez...

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Ian T
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Good god, what a blithering idiot.

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Dr OcCuLt
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Posted: 20th Jun 2003 02:48
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and i think i have bad grammer ?

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Ian T
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Your grammer is quite legible compared to some, as has just been demonstrated by this... odd... post above

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Shadow Robert
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Quote: "What makes you think just because someone has money they are a good coder, and just because someone doesn't they aren't?"


its the whole elitest point that all expensive Schools will automatically be better than anything cheaper

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Ermes
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I think DBDN is an extra do not consider, it is much better the community forum.

In can trow my money out of the window, make a present to my cat or subscribe to DBDN ; it's the same thing!(no.. my cat will be happy with its present)

I don't known Raven how are the schools in USA, here in Italy we have a lot of idiot in expensive schools as in cheap schools.

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lol i'm not sure about US school either mate... i'm from the UK, and i know more morons in Public (Private for the Americans) Schools than there are in State Schools

i went to the best school in my area which was a State School, i see DBDN as a frill too ... i mean if DBP was still only in Beta testing then yeah it would be worth it - but as it stands the users are really just Beta testing the program fixxes, and it seems a little silly for the team to be developing new functions which could go wrong if they don't even have all of the core release functions working 100% yet, no?
Perhaps in 6months time when DBP is out of it current Beta state release and its setup & engine are more stable and finalised (c'mon what programs do you know which are released and then a COMPLETE engine overhaul happens?).

that aside it seems silly to say it keeps out the riff-raff anyway considering right now if people pay attention to the current DBS special then well you'll see its cheaper through that

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Ermes
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uh, sorry Raven i've read you come from Usa, but i've not understand at full what you've write, it's my poor english.....

However, i can say it's intresting this community forum, it's the 6th year i've an internet connection, this is the first time i use a forum and i'm happy.

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hehee... i've used forums since i've used the internet, from the BBS (Bulletin Board System) which had thier own phone number & servers back then it was cool ... messages this quick were a pipedream, you'd be lucky if you could answer within 2minutes (ahh the joys of a 9600 modem)



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ah, how old are you Raven??? you're of 1980, i'm of 1973, so you use internet since 9600 modem. i guess you use it in the body of you mother before your birth!

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can we have a clubhouse? jk!

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Ermes
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Sorry, what is a "clubhouse"??? i'm not very good in english language.

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it's like a place where little kids hang out to tell secrets and other stuff with their friends. it was just a joke 'cause i think a "club" is a little to kiddy!

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oh well, a clubhouse..... why not!!!!
In italian, it's CASETTA.
By the way, is there someone who speak italian??
I'm the only From this country in this forum??

ALMENO CE NE FOSSE UNO, TUTTO STO TEMPO A PARLARE IN INGLESE
A STI BISCHERI CHE ROMPONO LE PALLE CON LE LORO FREGNACCE SUI LORO
INCREDIBILI GIOCHI FATTI SOLO NELLA LORO MENTE!!!

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Sì, capisco.

"casetta means" means "small house" because "casa" means house and etta makes it small.
I think.
I'm learning Italian in school.

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INCREEEEEEEDIBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Good one, you're near to be right.

"etta" don't make it small, it make it Kindy.

So CASETTA means "Lovely house"

"ina" is to make it small, CASINA (CASA+INA= CASINA)
The way to make it small and lovely, is CASETTINA (CASA + ETTA + INA)


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why didn't i choose italian over french i suck at languages but that actually makes sense to me

to live is to suffer, to survive, well, thats to find meaning in the sufferening.....
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I am a DBDN member. I cannot tell you what is there because of the agreement, but I can tell you my own usage habbits... I can tell you Lee recently ignored my emails but did answer a non-DBDN members email from the same team - although he clearly had not read either email when he answered, and I can tell you that I use this forum more than I use the DBDN forum when I want technical help.

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Oh well, gave it a shot. I'm only in my first year.

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You have to sign an agreement not to tell anyone?

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Sorry andrew11, I cannot tell you.

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lol Ermes they i don't remember modems being available nor ISPs for homes users prior to '88, but that might just be in the UK i don't know. first ISP was CompuSERVE (anyone remember them?) you had a whoppinly fast 9600 (slower than fax lol) internet speed which this page along would've probably taken the better half of an hour just to load up (you think i'm joking lol), i'd used it primarily to talk to people about the upcomming Elite2 and something called HTML 2.0 which was suppose to revolutionise the entire Internet.
And when i finally upgraded to Windows 3.1 i got to see what it was all about

just image what excitment it would've been for you to log onto the internet see a little peice of text say "Loading" and a picture of the CompuServe logo appear before you very eye
Ofcourse after that you had to upgrade to a 28.8 modem cause you needed the fasted to see all of the pictures on the websites, that still mainly use basic text
I know it doesn't seem like it but those crap educational sites you see with nothing bar text and a one or two images now - but when for the past 2years you'd been using a DOS based bulletin board which was essentially



(well you get the idea lol)
to an actual picture backgroud hehee seems exciting

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Boy that's secretive...

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Just a quick question, and no offence intened, but why is it that noobs and people first joining the forum (offen called noobs aswell) seam to wanna create a so-called elite forum, club, or whatever, when if it was created they probably wouldn't get in?

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partially correct. They will get in/join, but when they got in their own club, there will definitely be a "so, err.. wat r we gonna do?"





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ya know what the weirderestest thing is?
is that those who want to create these exclusive club actually couldn't get in anyways

i mean you think about it, the only real thing you could go on for being an advanced person in dbp/db is really the work produced and length of time you've been using them - its like over at GFX, although all newbie would like to be within the Elite Section of the forum you have to be active members for around 2months with work already shown then upload a piece of work which you hope will get you in.

so even a newbie even if they are pretty pro already and can produce breathtaking work cannot just waltz in be as brasen as they like and just be waved into the Elite Section.

and it is more a case of popularity then being professional, although it is ment to be a section for the more Pro artists can just show off, you're voted in by the community as a whole so if your the best dang artist there but you have no coverage you'll never get in cause no one will see your work.

lol sorry for getting so serious on everyone there, it won't happen again i pwomise

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Actually, I've had a DB Newsletter group for the longest time... I've changed it now to include DB Discussion as well so hopefully that will spark a little bit of user interest^_^ Here ya go!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dbsgroup/


The 3D Modeler's Group : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3dModeler/
The Unofficial DB Software Group : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dbsgroup/
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I got the biggest one.

820 memebers.

Started January Last year.

Ended September Last Year.

but some **** has a sign-up link on their site. So if it is you please get rid of it, please, please, please.

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heh? Not meO_o... this is a group I created... never even heard of yours... why was it ended?

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Arrow, i'm using DB since 1999, (1.0), And joined the forum of DBPRO just the 27th of May,2003 as you can see, because there isn't a showcase in DBPRO site. I would like to place my remarcable work on a place where discuss it with people who know what it's really make a game or a program.
It must work to share advice, info, tricks and others useful ones.

"They will get in/join, but when they got in their own club, there will definitely be a "so, err.. wat r we gonna do?""

Maybe some ideas came from a serius and capable mind, not from a fart ballon.

I'm not telling you i want to be the president...
I'm telling you if we can create a little site where place our works, and let the other user download and enjoy our games.

Maybe a satellite site of DBPRO site.

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okaaaaaaay, this is the first time somebody taking my jokes too seriously! lol!

anyway Ermes, if u wan a place like that, then u should check/join the DBDN site (for the "serious and capable mind" ppl)

hope that makes up on wat i've said earlier

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My newsletter/group thing ended casue of time

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i don't know if you're joking or not, i know it's easy to say something, and the next day change it in a joke.
"serious and capable mind" refer to the ability of making game, not the ability to become a snob after making a poor game.

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=P Interesting...

EVERYONE LOVES THE PUFF!... =\
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