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Phaelax
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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:38
Nasty. Did this happen to you, or someone you know?
I sure hope you're insured.

No one was hurt, I take it? I'm sure that would have been the first thing you'd have told us.


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:38
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That really sucks.

Hope you had good insurance on there... Next time don't drive so fast


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:41
Weather looks crap there! Guess you're lucky it wasn't any worse (i.e. You getting hurt).


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:41 Edited at: 16th Dec 2007 21:43
I was going the speed limit. The cop said, well maybe you should have been going 45mph instead (65mph was the speed limit). Then he went to say how the car is too big for me..... I've always driven huge cars, I just hit a slick spot (that later began causing several more accidents in the same area) and I didn't have enough room to regain control. I did have a seatbelt on and I have full coverage with Geico, who are also paying for the towing and storage fees. I like Geico!


Yea nobody got hurt, aside from scaring the piss out of the other driver when the uhaul tipped up on two wheels I hit him so hard. Oh, and when I went to look at the car today, my back driver-side window was down. So now I have a pile of snow in the car from the stupid tow truck driver putting the window down for who knows what reason.


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:44 Edited at: 16th Dec 2007 21:44
I'm glad to hear that, I go through Geico too and was worried that they might mess around with me if they should ever have to pay out.

Sounds like the cop you talked to was a jack**! I don't know you personally or the conditions so I won't comment further about what you should have or should not have done.


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:48 Edited at: 16th Dec 2007 21:51
Quote: "Sounds like the cop you talked to was a jack**"


They're all like that... Always acting as if they're perfect and never screwed up.

Sorry to anyone who many be a cop or is related to one. But if you're like that, maybe try cleaning up your act a bit and be a bit friendly. People will have more respect for you.

EDIT: Glad you're ok Phaelex. Weather in Ohio is poo right now. Stupid snow. Stupid winter.

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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:51
The important thing is you didn't get hurt. I've lost a few friends to car accidents so I always get a little jittery when I hear about them. Anyway, yeah, Geico is great, they handle everything quickly and professionally, and they don't jack up their rates too much after an accident.

Looks like you guys got the same noreaster stuff from our storms. Man I hate winter

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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:51
Quote: "They're all like that... Always acting as if they're perfect and never screwed up."

I wouldn't normally mind, but that is just so utterly sterotypical. I know a few policemen who are perfectly glad to admit that they were wrong.


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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 21:52
I just switched to Geico this year because the company I was with for 5 years decided to drop me because I have 3 cars and only 1 driver on the policy. They considered that a high risk and they don't cover. Of course, they waited until the month my policy expired to tell me they wouldn't renew it and that was the reason.

My friend tried Esurance, and they seemed to be really great customer service-wise. Only problem he had was when they totalled his car out (hail storm). He really had to fight with them to get his money's worth out of the car.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 03:18
You'd think that having more cars per driver would lower the risk/cost. Surely they don't expect you're driving all 3 at once!


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 06:33
See that's what I thought. But that company is also strict on the types of cars it will insure. I bought that chrysler because they wouldn't insure the jaguar I was looking at.

I'll know within the next few days what Geico is going to do with the car. I think it'll get fixed, but if it is totalled out I'll most likely use the money towards my tuition.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 08:06
Quote: "Sounds like the cop you talked to was a jack**"


Actually the posted speed limit is for optimal road conditions. If it's raining or snowing, they can still ticket you for going the posted limit if it's deemed too fast.

Thankfully nobody was killed!

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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 14:29
Bloody hate ice and snow when I'm driving. Especially in the UK as they are totally not set up for it.

I remember once driving my 4x4 rally based turbo nutter car down a local estate in the middle of the night when all the street lights were strangely off. I was only doing about 10mph and I hit black ice on a 90 degree corner. Nice. Anyone who yaps on about 4x4 cars having no problem on ice are clearly stupid. I may as well have been in a bath tub for all the good it did. Just coasted slowly with no traction or direction whatsoever. Luckily came to a stop all by itself before I hit the wall. And remember to not use 1st gear when trying to start off again in these situations (you go all over the place). Esp in stupidely fast cars. Nice and easy in 2nd or 3rd gear is the way... slowly slowly...

Then there was that time I indicated to turn off the road and just kept going straight. Kinda freaky.....

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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 15:00 Edited at: 17th Dec 2007 15:03
65MPH?? waaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast in that weather!

65 Mph may have been the speed limit, but in that weather you should have been going slower! i.e. ice = less friction!

99% of the time it's a speed issue that causes accidents!

your probably looking at about $6K (approx £3000) to repair that! lets hope they dont right it off LOL.

BTW - don't post on the INTERNET that YOU hit the trailer as that could cause problems when claiming! provided they check ofcourse LOL
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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 16:35
In Germany they really stress the point that the posted speed limit should only be driven under optimal conditions. It's no different anywhere you are.

Glad you're okay. Next time don't drive 65 mph on black ice holding a camera


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 16:42
Quote: "In Germany they really stress the point that the posted speed limit should only be driven under optimal conditions. It's no different anywhere you are."

What about the Autobahn? That thing is a death trap.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 18:19
Worse than ice is old people. My father's stationary Punto was hit at 45mph by a 70 year old Skoda driver who went for the brake and hit the accelerator! Not much left afterwards, but he got twice the car's worth in insurance payoff.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Quote: "Worse than ice is old people. My father's stationary Punto was hit at 45mph by a 70 year old Skoda driver who went for the brake and hit the accelerator! Not much left afterwards, but he got twice the car's worth in insurance payoff."


I had an old lady merge right into my lane when I was riding side by side with her towards a 4 lane stop light (2 turn lanes 2 straight). I had to move into the turn lane to avoid getting hit. That lady didn't even see me


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I changed lanes at the intersection without indicating while going the wrong way down the motorway, crossing a red light and speeding.


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@Keo C,
Not true - the Autobahn fatality rate is apparently lower than the US freeway fatality rate, despite the fact that over half of it has no or higher speed limits than the US.

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Old people driving sucks. Know what? I saw this thing on tv (Yes, I know...) where this old lady was driving down the WRONG SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. She was going towards oncoming traffic in a freeway...


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 20:31 Edited at: 17th Dec 2007 20:34
Quote: "Autobahn fatality rate is apparently lower"


Thereby proving, yet again, my theory that faster in good conditions is safer. How many crashes occur because drivers aren't paying enough attention? How much attention are you paying at 85mph?

Quote: "That lady didn't even see me"

Chances are she did, but being older she likely ignored your presence.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 20:46
Quote: "Old people driving sucks. Know what? I saw this thing on tv (Yes, I know...) where this old lady was driving down the WRONG SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. She was going towards oncoming traffic in a freeway...
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Someone my family knew did that while drunk. Hence why I said knew. I don't think he lived. It was an old neighbor's son or something like that. Didn't really know them well or anything.

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The Autobahn is okay. There's no 'speed limit', but if you travel over 130 kph, or 80 mph, then insurance won't cover you if you get into a wreck. Thus, most people keep it reasonable. Every now and then you'll get someone, probably American military late for formation, that blast by you like you're parked in the middle of the road.

There are accidents, but it doesn't seem like there are too many, or too often. The one thing that I hate about German roads is that they don't use a yellow center stripe, all stripes are white. Sometimes it's very questionable if you're in the right lane.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 21:11
I don't think Britain does either. I think that might be quite un-European.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 21:28
Maybe because it was raining I might have thought that.


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Don't they have some special insurance for the autobahn? I can't remember what it was called, but they're sort of like AAA in the US, only with helicopter rescue squads and stuff like that. I'd guess it would cost an arm and a leg, but then I'm also sure the people who pay for that own Ferraris and whatnot, hehe.

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What's the AAA advanced automobile ascosiation?
Only her in England we have the AA: automobile ascosiation?


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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 22:54 Edited at: 17th Dec 2007 22:55
Quote: "Old people driving sucks. Know what? I saw this thing on tv (Yes, I know...) where this old lady was driving down the WRONG SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. She was going towards oncoming traffic in a freeway...


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Just today on my bus ride home...there was some lady who drove INTO the interstate exit, to get on the interstate...I consider that grounds for immediate liscense removal...

[Edit] I mean cmon...not only is she entering the interstate wrong...but just think of which way she'd probably wind up driving down the interstate? That coulda made me late coming home


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I did that once, and on the turn part too (where it turns to go into the regualar road). I totally wasn't paying attention and looked up and thought for some ungodly reason it was my entrance.

I managed to realize my mistake as I was entering and just looped around.

That said, I've never been in an accident that was my fault. Only once have I had a chick rear end me.

Oh, and once when I was learning to drive (So it doesn't count!!) I side swiped a tractor tire with the side of a utility truck as I was pulling out, luckily there was very little damage


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Posted: 18th Dec 2007 01:11
Quote: "If it's raining or snowing, they can still ticket you for going the posted limit if it's deemed too fast."


That is true.

Quote: "BTW - don't post on the INTERNET that YOU hit the trailer"

When the police showed up, its obvious who hit who. And its all in the police report anyway. My insurance covers everything.

The roads were actually pretty clear at the time, the ice and slush was all on the shoulders against the divider wall. I went into the left lane to pass someone (im really not going any faster than most ppl, but some folks do 25 on the freeway) and waited to get a bit far ahead of him before merging over so I dont throw salt all over his car. Just about to merge back over when I hit the little pile of slush that had slit out from the wall. Maybe I was going too fast for the potential conditions is various areas, but I don't really care to argue it right now.


I talked with the insurance adjuster, its a total loss. Repairs estimated at over $8k. Radiator, condenser, tranny cooler, frame rails possibly need pulled and repaired. Rear corner panel replaced, both head lights, bumper. Not to mention repainting half the car. Value was increased due to consideration of low miles on the vehicle, premium sound and wheels with brand new michelins on it. The overall condition was considered dealership quality, interior was practically perfect. Value was close to $11k, which I'm going to talk to some people about it before signing the title over.

My friend has the same car, but with the 16" rims instead of the polished 17" I have. I'm allowed to swap the wheels at no loss in value. So I might do my friend a little favor.


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Posted: 20th Dec 2007 23:48
Well, I got most of the responsible things out of the way, such as tuition and whatnot. Time to go buy a big screen tv!


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Speaking of car crashes, I almost had one today. Would've been all by my lonesome though. I'd been trying to powerslide on the frost we've been getting for days. But there's still way too much grip. However, yesterday we had a frost that never thawed. This morning on the car park in work I was going down hill at a reasonable speed (it's on a fairly steep slope), and started to turn at the bottom, but nope ... I kept on going forwards towards the curb. So I didn't panic, beasted the accelerator, and the 4wd kicked in and pulled me out of it. Got a dirty look from a guy parking his car too.

My pants are still brown.


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You should really think about taking those pants off and washing them dude...

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Posted: 21st Dec 2007 10:23 Edited at: 21st Dec 2007 10:24
The closest I've come to crashing was earlier this year when I was trying to catch up to a mate of mine who got through an amber light while I was stuck at the red. In any case, I was hammering it pretty hard and it came up to my turn off, so I started to turn into it thinking I could make it (and I probably would have, as well), however, instinctively (and obviously without thinking) I tapped the brakes very slightly cause I felt I was probably going a bit fast and as a result, my 4WD disabled and I encountered some massive oversteer. Anyway, my gut reaction (and probably most people's) was to quickly turn the other way but of course, I over corrected and started to fishtail on the wrong side of the road. Fortunately, my brains finally took over and I gradually accelerated (kicking in the 4WD and gaining traction) and corrected back up. Thank god it was early in the morning and there weren't other cars on the road or I would've been in quite a mess.

Point being, no matter how much you know about driving, sometimes you just act instinctively even though you know it's the wrong thing to do.


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Posted: 21st Dec 2007 11:53 Edited at: 21st Dec 2007 11:59
In the UK the police would have probably do you with dangerous driving. The rule here drive at a speed suitible for the conditions, even if it's within the speed limit.

I've had 2 cars written of both times on the motorway and stuck in traffic. Idiot behind hadn't seen the traffic had stopped. I have to wonder WTF they were looking at while driving if they weren't looking out the windscreen!!

Funny thing was one of them, a woman, told the police I'd swerved infront of her and suddenly braked. Police treated me like an arse cause I had a spoiler on the car and a baseball cap... until they looks at he motorway camera video which showed me totaly stationary on the end of queue with hazard lights on! Talk about prejudice :/

I hope the insurance comapany don't screw you. If you're in the UK don't go with Adrian Flux they are the worst god damn insurers I've ever had the unfortune of dealing with, I recommend Privilidge for modified motors!

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Posted: 21st Dec 2007 13:43
Quote: "Funny thing was one of them, a woman, told the police I'd swerved infront of her and suddenly braked."


Sounds like the sort of person who gets hit by lamp posts jumping out in front of them.

A few years back I was hit from behind by a van while I was stationary at a roundabout - the van driver said he thought I'd gone. I hadn't.
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Quote: "A few years back I was hit from behind by a van while I was stationary at a roundabout - the van driver said he thought I'd gone. I hadn't."


That's a pretty common one.

Quote: "So I didn't panic, beasted the accelerator, and the 4wd kicked in and pulled me out of it."


WTF? I don't get it, you're in a slide, going forward, instead of righting your front wheels and just braking, you instead turn and speed up?


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Posted: 21st Dec 2007 18:26 Edited at: 21st Dec 2007 18:27
Quote: "WTF? I don't get it, you're in a slide, going forward, instead of righting your front wheels and just braking, you instead turn and speed up?"


Yeah, exactly. I'm turning right, with brakes on (only a bit) and the wheels have locked cos it's icey. So I'm sliding forwards, and not slowing down. So braking with the wheels pointed forwards wouldn't make any difference, but coming off the brakes and giving it a bit of gas pulled it round the corner and away from the curb.


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Quote: "Yeah, exactly. I'm turning right, with brakes on (only a bit) and the wheels have locked cos it's icey. So I'm sliding forwards, and not slowing down. So braking with the wheels pointed forwards wouldn't make any difference, but coming off the brakes and giving it a bit of gas pulled it round the corner and away from the curb."


Lucky you You must have hit a dry patch or your antilock breaks weren't working (so letting up off the breaks is what allowed your tires to grip on turning). Remember that if you can't break cuz your sliding, there's no reason why you would grip by speeding up and turning.

4 wheel drive doesn't make your tires magically grip, it just means that all 4 tires can speed up


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AAA is the same thing as Britain's AA, fundamentally of course. I'm not sure what it stands for though... Automotive Association of America probably.

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Oh we're not even gonna count how many times I've been rear-ended after being stopped for several minutes, its mostly woman that hit me when I'm stopped.


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Quote: "instead of righting your front wheels and just braking"

That's what causes wrecks. Turn your wheels in the direction of the skid and pump your brakes. That's the only way to regain control. You can't always, but you have a chance.


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My aunt had a car crash today.


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It was fate.

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This was my worst driving decision ever.

I was surprised afterwards that i lived through it... and received quite the adrenaline rush...

i was trying to pass the school bus before the turn, but it was going too fast... so i pulled off this maneuver...



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WTF??O_o


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he pulled across the bus very silly

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