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The crazy
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Posted: 31st Dec 2007 21:15
My friend and I are trying to set up a forum on our website and we've decided to go with phpbb and integrate it with the site rather than just link to one of the easy-to-make forums. We've run into a problem:

We dont know how to set up a database. We've looked all over for help on this topic but it seems that any information we find expects us to know this already. It seems like this should be really obvious and I sort of feel stupid asking, but if anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate the help. Thank you

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 31st Dec 2007 21:18
I'd imagine your webspace has a Cpanel or Control Panel of some sort or another. They usually have buttons to get into your sites database tools. You could contact your host and ask them how to get to it.

Also, don't use PHPBB. I highly recommend SMF. It's A LOT more secure. PHPBBs get spammed and destroyed by bots frequently.

Zappo
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Posted: 31st Dec 2007 22:09
I agree. Use a different forum if you can. PhpBB is very widely used but you have to keep it bang up to date, patched and locked down as much as you can. There are addons which make creating new accounts more difficult for bots but it can still be tricky if this is your first forum and you aren't familiar with PHP.

You need to make sure your hosting includes a MySQL database. I haven't set up PhpBB in a long time but I think there is some sort of setup script you run (by simply typing the URL into your browser) but you do need to give it a username and password to access MySQL. It will either expect a database to exist already or make one for you as part of the initial setup - I can't remember which. I do seem to remember it doing most of the work for you when it comes to making the correct tables.


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 02:44
Seriously, visit the MISoft Studios website (click my siggy) and go to our forums, they're a heck of a lot more secure, with cooler features, better aesthetic qualities, the list of benefits goes on and on. We've only ever seen one bot attack on our website. Compare that to the old PHPBB forums we had, with literally 100+ registered bots in the first month of it being up, and hundreds upon hundreds of bot spam threads and posts all over our forums. SMF is the undisputed king of web forums, shy of Apollo of course.

Jeku
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 02:51
@Matt Rock - I don't think you've quite hit your "mention MiSoft" quota for the day yet.

Matt Rock
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 03:06
Nothing wrong with shameless promotion . Besides, it's an SMF forum, obviously the first SMF forum that's going to come to mind, as an example of how cool it is, is my own.

Agent Dink
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 03:12
Silver-Dawn.net has one as well. It's pretty boring there though

Black Rebel Heart
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simplemachines.org is the best. It comes pre-installed with freehostia.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/GameSpace/ <<Join my forum kthnxbye
Matt Rock
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 04:03
eh, I think you're better off just installing it yourself on your own server, it's more manageable, it's still free to use, and the installation process is outrageously simple.

The crazy
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 07:46
Wow, I didn't expect to get such a reply. Thanks! I'm going to try misoft and see how that works out. Wish me luck

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PresFox
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 21:09
smf is alot harder to manage, get phpbb 3

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 21:28
SMF is simple dude... There's never any hassle.

Insert Name Here
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 22:11
Quote: "Nothing wrong with shameless promotion "

Apart from the shamelessness?

What actually makes SMF stand out as different? I've heard it's pretty much the best forum type that exists, but why is that?


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The crazy
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 22:49
Quote: "SMF is the most simple to use forum I've ever seen.
"


Which makes me feel stupid to ask, but:
I've set up a mysql database and it is recognized by smf. Problem is it says it thinks I need to create a folder in my database but I can't seem to find where to do this. This is now a question about the host. I use 1and1.com hosting. Has anyone used this host before?

Quote: "The installer was unable to access the "smf" database. With some hosts, you have to create the database in your administration panel before SMF can use it. Some also add prefixes - like your username - to your database names.
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is it saying the name of the host should be smf? because right now the batabase is called dbo(some numbers).prefora.net

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 22:55
Quote: "Apart from the shamelessness?"

Says a regular on our forums, lol.

Quote: "What actually makes SMF stand out as different? I've heard it's pretty much the best forum type that exists, but why is that?"

There's quite a few reasons:

* When you create a PHPBB forum, it says "PHPBB" right in your URL, making it rediculously simple for bots to find your forums. With SMF, it doesn't make it as easy to find. On our website, we had so many bots at one point that I thought about dropping the forums completely. I was talked into using SMF by others on TGC, and since then we've seen drastic changes... only one bot has ever posted on our new SMF forums. The Coral is a Merseyside indie band I'm quickly becoming a fan of. Even with masking their forum name so it doesn't say "PHPBB" in the title, look at how many bots they have on their site.

* Other than that, security is top-class in SMF, unlike PHPBB. It's integrated directly into the system, whereas in PHPBB, you need to mod the crap out of your forums to improve the security, and even then, it never seems like it's enough. We did a dozen mods to the PHPBB forums... with each mod it kept the bots away for a few hours, some of them even a full day or two, but they always got in.

* Aesthetic quality. PHPBB forums are, well, ugly and poorly designed. Regardless of what skin you throw on your PHPBB forum, it looks rough and unprofessional. Compare that to SMF, with clean, smooth lines and about 10 skins for every single PHPBB skin. Oh, and making your own custom skins is easier on SMF, or so I'm told, so you can make an SMF forum look like it's integrated into your website directly, and not just an ammendment.

* Manageability is a BREEZE with SMF, whereas with PHPBB, it can get annoying. Making mods, various classes of visitors, new boards and sections, altering the status of a visitor... you can modify more aspects of an SMF forum with the administration panel than you can with PHPBB.

* Ease of Registration. Signing up on the more-secure SMF forum is easier, less time-consuming, safer, and more reliable than PHPBB. At one point we had a problem where people with yahoo email addresses couldn't register on our forums. It wouldn't send the automated confirmation email to the new forum member, so we had to manually allow anyone and everyone with a yahoo address. Fixing it was a major headache that took a few days if I remember correctly. With SMF, everything is a lot faster and filters out bots more natively, with minimum hassle for human members.

* Installation with SMF is hands-down easier than PHPBB. It takes a hundredth of the time, especially considering you don't need to modify SMF for security and/ or functionality. And if you do have to modify SMF, it's a million times easier than PHPBB, which requires you to go into the code and adjust stuff there.

I could go on, but those are the main reasons why SMF beats PHPBB, for me anyway .

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Posted: 1st Jan 2008 23:03
Well, you have me convinced. Security was one of my main concerns (When isn't it?), and it seems SMF has that sorted. Thanks for taking the time to write that.

Quote: "Says a regular on our forums, lol."

Ha, OK, yes.


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The crazy
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 05:38
So uh, did anyone read my latest post? You two are kinda going off in your own conversation...

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