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Geek Culture / GH3 Timing

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Osiris
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 01:37
So my mom is learning the fun of guitar hero 3, and well, I'm having some issues trying to explain the timing thing to her. See when I play it just comes to me. However I tell her to hit the note when the color goes over the bottom bar. However for some reason those rules do not always apply:

Sometimes you can hit the notes even when they are passed, and sometimes you can't. This is like the note goes past, then jumps back like you hit it perfectly.

Sometimes you can hit the note when its on the bar at the bottom and sometimes you can't. This the little strum hit indicator goes through the note.

It's kind of weird actually, the same thing happens to me sometimes. So when do you guys hit strum?

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Keo C
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 02:17
Right when it goes over it, works every time.


Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 03:01
A little bit before it's over..


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Osiris
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 03:18
I try to tell her when the edge of the note hits the bar is good, but it only seems to work sometimes haha.

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Inspire
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 03:43
Sometimes I know I'm playing at the right time, but it doesn't count it. It really angers me...

RUCCUS
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 03:58
There's not much you can explain there. If she's hitting it too early, tell her to hit it later. If she's too late, earlier. If she still cant hit it, GH3 isnt for her.

Venge
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 05:06
GH3 is a lot more lenient (sp?) about timing accuracy. I went back to GH2 once and missed a lot of notes because I was so used to being able to hit it *pretty close* to the note and still get it. If she can't hit the notes on GH3, maybe you should steer her away from the guitar

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 12:34
Just let her practice in trial and error, my parents play GH3 too and they soon picked up, my Mum is not so good because she don't play often but my Dad can almost do Iron Maiden and get 45k point on Metallica and got a good pattern when starting Dragonforce.

Perhaps tell her to relax a little and not try too hard, give her an easy song and let her try then. She'll get the hang of it even if it's painful to watch.

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 17:00
Try her on Kaiser Chiefs 'Ruby' My mums knocking on a bit and she was doing not bad at it at all.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 20:15
Or one other way is to set it to Dragonforce on Extreme mode and tell her to continuously tap on the buttons to keep in beat, of course the hard bit is getting to press the right ones, but at least she'll have the right timing.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 21:30 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2008 21:30
If you're playing in HD, there's a chance that a lag may build up. Just a quarter second can make it hard. It'd certainly explain why you can hit notes when it's supposedly too early.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
Osiris
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 22:16
Well we are playing on a 32' CRT TV. Old as heck. But shes getting much better, 80%+ on easy. Thats pretty good IMO, but thats coming from someone who gets 94% on medium and fails at 61% on hard haha (damn orange button).

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Osiris
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 06:19
So another GH related question, what does that phone jack port on the bottom supposed to do anyways?

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RUCCUS
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 07:05
Not many people know this but theres a "calibrate lag" feature in GH3. At any time press start, then go to options and then calibrate lag. It will bring you to a screen where you press the notes as they pass by, and depending on your accuracy it will adjust the detection timing. This might help, if like NeX said you're experiencing lag.

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Quote: "Sometimes I know I'm playing at the right time, but it doesn't count it. It really angers me...
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Me to.... 3 notes to 100%, then BAM it happened

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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 11:15
One thing I've noticed with the new guitar is that if you move it around a lot it can loose connection, damn waste of time detachable neck. See the neck has little round contacts and a standard sprung contact on the guitar, but the neck has quite a bit of give in it so can easily loose contact (from what I can figure out).

On my guitar, I rolled up some scraps of paper, and put them in the screw holes on the neck, cut the rolls of paper down so they left about 6mm, then forced the neck back on. I got mine working much better doing this, but if your gonna follow suit then be careful, don't want to be responsible for any borked guitars. I think the safest bet is to watch how your have to put the neck back on, you want some, but not too much force - then the neck should be a pretty snug fit and the contacts remain intact.

This is not a huge problem on all guitars, like my guitar and my little brothers both have this problem, but a friend has no issues, neither does my sons guitar. Incidently we played through the co-op career last week, it has to be the most fun I've had playing a game this decade! - don't let those dodgy guitars ruin the game for you, take action .


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mm0zct
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Posted: 5th Jan 2008 02:15
personally i'd say don't try judging when to strum from the picture, do it to the beat of the music, listen more than look. look for the patters/notes, listen for the timing.

if you hadn't noticed the fret bars mark the beats and the thicker fret bars mark the bars.

although if you aren't a musician this may not mean much to you.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 11:25
GH3 have the largest window for strumming notes then any of the previous. I don't look at the line at the bottom but quite a bit ahead, as the speed increases with difficulty you really have to look ahead and just play to the music.

BTW, GH3 sucks compared to GH2 and 80s, got a friend (and a lot of Score Hero users) who agrees with me. It's just not as fun to play. I'm almost ranked top 1000 on Rocks the 80s now

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