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FPSC Classic Models and Media / [LOCKED] New Release.Sign Entities-Framed Art (Pack 2) "European theme"

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billv
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 12:16
Contents: 64 Images Featuring Greece, France, Italy, Switzerland and Holland in Picture Frames.
These Framed pictures are FPSC "Sign entities" ready to hang on a wall and are FPSC compatible. Place folders into your entitybank folder and go.
Instantly create a better atmosphere in your rooms.

Images are high quality from a recent European trip

Licensing:
You can use this product license free in your free or commercial projects
The images in this product however, are under BV MUSIC Copyright.
You can pull the images out and use them in another product or project, free or commercial, with no license fee's to be paid.
You cannot, however, resell, sublicense, or otherwise make available the Images for use or
distribution separately or detached from a product
You cannot sell or distribute these images on their own.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 12:33
Ingame screenies? Or screenies at all?

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Post ingame screeny or this will be locked...

IT'S FIVE-YEAR MISSION, TO EXPLORE STRANGE NEW WORLDS, TO SEEK OUT NEW LIFE AND NEW CIVILIZATIONS, TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE.
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Here is the screenshot requested.[img]null[/img]

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Veron
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 13:53
A bit bigger please? And with more than one portrait in the screen?


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 15:52
If this is simply a repeat of your last thread, then expect this one to get locked as well. You need to show actual full-size screenshots; I also suggest that you show a few more than the 4 images you have on your site.

To be fair, to all those people who suggest using Signs instead, a Pack such as this (for $2) would be a time saver in your development cycle. The only issue here, as before, is that we are unsure of the originality of the images...or their origins. This community has been burned before (on more than one occassion) by people claiming work as their own...only to find out it wasn't true (after money exchanged hands). So you can see things from our point of view.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 17:35
wow dude you just keep tryin and tryin but every time your gonna get pwned by a mod so just do something unique (and legal)


Cheers,Bobert

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 22:43
All images in Pack 2 are 100% original and 100% owned by me, BV MUSIC. Original images were taken on an Olympus D-90 ,4.0 mp,at 2272x1704.

Bigger shots will be posted via my site when time allows.

Pack 1 has been withdrawn. While I feel Pack 1 was a unique and legal release, At the end of the day I am having Legal debates with people who are not Lawyers - While it can be an interesting discussion, no tangible results can be produced from such a discussion. Quite pointless without a Laywer in my corner too.

Bobert- I know you mean well but I resent you comment.
If you (or anyone else)want to throw (legal mud) at me, or imply that what I create is not Legal or Unique, please get a LAWYER to do it via BV MUSIC website, otherwise ,your comments regarding legal issues and copyright will be ignored.

PLEASE NOTE:
Any futher questions or comments directed at BV MUSIC
will be answered via CONTACT page on the BV MUSIC official site.

No more replies will be made by BV Music in this forum.

I understand the moderator's position and respect it.

But get this, I'm an Australian. I believe in free speech. I have no wish for my "speech/ words/conversations" to be moderated by a "third party".
Please take no offence as none is intended.
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 22:57
Quote: "I understand the moderator's position and respect it.

But get this, I'm an Australian. I believe in free speech. I have no wish for my "speech/ words/conversations" to be moderated by a "third party".
Please take no offence as none is intended."


As I respect your postition.Unfortunately when you are on these forums you are bound by the AUP and it is our job to enforce it.
If you are any forums but your own there are rules and you have to follow them.
All members have to follow the rules and the moderators will take whatever action is necessary to enforce those rules.
There are no exceptions.
I am sure Keith is keeping a close eye on this and now so are all of us.

Please have mercy and use the search function.
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2008 22:59 Edited at: 2nd Jan 2008 23:01
...geesh. Doubt if anyone's gonna want your shots anyway, billv. What's with the drama?

Running a series of images through Signs, and trying to hawk it is hardly creative, unique or difficult.

We believe in free speech, here in the states, too. That's why I'm speaking to you now.

If you feel that discussing copyright is mud slinging, you'll have a very short existence in any profession that uses such materials. You should consider another line of work.

I've been a professional photographer, and graphic artist for over 25 years. I've been around the block, and then some.

Don't attempt to lecture me on the legalities of copyright. I live and breathe by those laws everyday.

No offense meant. Just the facts.

Best of luck selling your wares on these boards.

Thanks,

Seth Black


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 01:54
Quote: "Pack 1 has been withdrawn. While I feel Pack 1 was a unique and legal release, At the end of the day I am having Legal debates with people who are not Lawyers - While it can be an interesting discussion, no tangible results can be produced from such a discussion. Quite pointless without a Laywer in my corner too.
"


uh its a little hard to have a lawyer that will take a case over the internet sorry but 800 members vs one looks to be pretty good odds ( for us )

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Quote: "But get this, I'm an Australian. I believe in free speech. I have no wish for my "speech/ words/conversations" to be moderated by a "third party".
Please take no offence as none is intended."

I'm not sure how I couldn't take offense to it; seeing as how I spent over 10 years of my life defending that freedom we also hold dear here in the US, as a Soldier...as I continue to do today.

However, as Fred pointed out, this forum is not a "free speech zone" per say; while all members share a certain amount of leeway when it comes to getting their point across...they are still bound by the rules that are set forth; created by the people who pay the bills to keep these boards open.

So I'll end with a repetition of Seth's comment:

Quote: "Best of luck selling your wares on these boards."


-Keith

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 03:28 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 03:34
Quote: "At the end of the day I am having Legal debates with people who are not Lawyers - While it can be an interesting discussion, no tangible results can be produced from such a discussion. Quite pointless without a Laywer in my corner too."

Aussies dont own copyright on free speech,as far as I can see you are the one who's making the mistake in your interpretation of use.You therefore are the one who's playing lawyer with no legal expertise whatsoever.
If what you say is correct then you wont mind if I buy your pack put different frames around them and sell them here on the forums at a lesser price than you are,say 1 dollar would that be o.k.
Your idea that you can buy a pack of images and so long as you dont separate them and you include them in your 'product' means you can sell them on is ludicrous at best.
If you want to confirm it you could do so with a simple e-mail to the owners of the material asking if you are correct in your asumptions,until you actually do so and post confirmation on these boards that it's o.k. you probably wont sell anything around here.
As for the material you are hawking now I for one am very wary towards anyone who takes such a defensive stance towards folks who dont agree with you.
The onus is on you,not us.


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 03:43 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 03:43
Quote: "Aussies dont own copyright on free speech"

What has the world come to...lol You have to own copyrights to say your mind thats a load of rubbish but back on subject...
You had a thread locked before and now you make a new one which is apparently "Pack 2" you can't tell me you went all around the world in that time span to get pictures as you went on to say
"All images in Pack 2 are 100% original and 100% owned by me,"
How can they be... IF you just made this thread not long after your other thread got locked?

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 04:15
...easy. It's called lying.


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It's the wonder of the forum. You never know who you're dealing with. Could be a 12 year old who doesn't know any better.... could be an 80 year old crook trying to pull one over on us.

What we do know is that your failure to post proper images - even after being repeatedly asked to do so, your failure to show proper license, your defensive attitude even while failing to follow forum rules, and the lack of originality and purpose of your offering, leaves us wondering....

Is this your first dance or do you think we're easy marks?

If I wanted to sell something here, I would:

- Sell something that people want
- Present it in a way that would make it desirable
- Display respect and a proper attitude to my prospective buyers
- Respond in a positive manner to their concerns

But that's just me. I really believe you would have got a better response, even selling something this simple, had you presented it properly.

Best.

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Most people actually contribute to the community and make free stuff instead of just walking in and saying..."Trust me.Give me your money."
Quote: "you can't tell me you went all around the world in that time span to get pictures"

He must get some kickin' frequent flyer miles...

Please have mercy and use the search function.
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Hey, I know I said "I will not make any more replies in this forum"
, but being called a liar is something that needs to be adressed.

Guys, there are some really stupid comments in this thread. Quite dissapointing.

How about this idea that I just ran over to europe and back.
Did you ever stop to think mate, that maybe I had Vistited Europe before and had the files on disk, awaiting preperation. No,you did not, instead you come up that comment. Unreal....

That sound that you can hear is the sound of a knife slipping OUT
of my back.

Mr Fred. You should take a good look at my website and educate yourself before you embarass yourself with comments such as your last one. I've released 20 000 pieces of software FOR FREE in the last 8 months and more than 25 000 mp3 FOR FREE. All original creations.

So Fred, wipe the egg off your face while I pull another knife out of my back.

And this reference to being a liar.
Mate I could put this whole issue to sleep by creating another extra web page, posting a copy,
of my passport with the stamps in it, pictures of me standing in
varoius locations in over 13 European countires, or when I was living and working in England back in 1990.
I could do this and make you all look like a pack of morons, but I won't.
Those who posess wisdom and understanding will see through the dodgy comments made on this forum. I am content in this.

You either believe that my words are Honest or you can go and stand on my left.

8000 to 1, was that the figure. I don't care if 8 000 000 to one.
Rightiousness only moves clockwise.



That's it from me.
Sorry to drop to your knife party. I like
knives. I have worked as a Chef for 25 years.
Their fun to use, yeh?


Futher support only from bv music contact

Have a nice day
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 07:51 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 10:13
Quote: "I've released 20 000 pieces of software FOR FREE in the last 8 months and more than 25 000 mp3 FOR FREE. All original creations."

LOL

Quote: "Those who posess wisdom and understanding will see through the dodgy comments made on this forum. I am content in this."

I agree especially after reading the above.
Bill you cant expect folks to swallow things like this.
I did you the courtesy of visiting your website and like what you do but not too keen on what your saying to folks here,why are you trying to make a quick buck here yet willing to give away everything else,doesn't make any sense.
I'm not accusing you of lying I just think your misleading yourself,and in doing so misleading others.
If you want to rail against the system thats fine,but this isn't the place to do it.This forum has members and we all have to abide by the AUP this includes the posting of screenshots and courtesy to other members,you may think that folk have been rude but your insisting on playing things by your own rules.


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 10:47 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 11:02
...wow. A chef who takes snapshots.

Digital was a pipe-dream in 1990. No digital images on disc from that stint.

Rightiousness? billv, go cook something.


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 11:43
Personally i think i would have no use for these framed pictures as they would'nt be able to fit in with the regulars of fpsc models,
But you can see potential on creating skyboxes with them,and skyboxes are what we are short of in the forum.
If you did take the photos they are pretty good,
but if you didnt like the others say on this thread.....lol

best of luck
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To be honest, billv, i'm with yo if you tell the truth, and not with you if you lie. you have proof fo neither of hose statements, so i agreen with Windows98

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 12:54
Mate,
here's the deal. hope this makes sense.
I'm not trying to make a quick buck. i'm trying to turn a 25 year "arts" hobby into a proffession. I have been trying for the last 15 years,and failed every time.
I recorded 16 albums back in the early 90's that I wasn't happy with and couldn't sell. Jump forward to 2003, I turn digital,write and recorded more than 100 songs in 3 years that "sonicly" are not as good as commercial releases, so I can't sell them. I have my pride. I cannot put a price tag on something I'm not happy with.
When the day comes to put my music through a real mixing desk with a proffessional engineer, you can be damn sure I'm gonna put a price on the final product.
That is why all songs are free. They are not artist releases, but rather they are more like songwriting demos. Actually, they are more like engineering and production experiments, but tht'a another story.
All VST PLUG ins are released free because they are under continual developent untill I, or the users, feel that it's good
enough to move to the online store, thus freeing website space for more free VST Plug ins.
Game development has got me very excited now. I've had great sucess with FPSC after many years of failure to come up with a decent product in other formats. I was around 10 years old when space invaders first appeared outside to local fish and chip shop.
A big fan every since. Creativity wise, I see game development at the forefront of Creative pursiuts. You have 100% control of an entire enviroment that is governed by physics and math. Game development is so powerfull it's frightning.
3D modeling is currently my main focus at the moment.
Gamer's are blessed at the moment, like musicians, because of huge amount of quality programs out there for free. You got Truespace 3.2, gamespace 1.5, dele d, xsi mod tool, add to this FPSC, magic Fps, Entity workshop.... mate I'm having an absolute ball learning a new trade with these tools. They allow you to create whatever you want. My products are all very cheap. I don't care. I have to start somewhere you know.

The framed art pack is a solid creative release. here's why

A few weeks ago I was in the middle of develolping my latest game(The piscean chronicle part2) when I ran out of photos, the game needed more. So all production has to stop, I had to go through the whole process of taking more shots, processing them ect ect.
Mate, all I wanted to do was put another couple of pictures on a wall, embelish the atmosphere and move on the next task at hand, and I couldn't do it.
Now I do not have that problem. When I start building an modernday
apartment level or office block, the picture element is ready to go. This is cruial for me. I have a high production ethic. I need to see results. I like to have all my ingedients READY before I start cooking.
I like the pack and am forward to using it.

I don't mind if people don't buy it. It's all good. The sales are a bonus for me at this stage. I'm happy to have started a 3d modeling hobby/career and to have decent product on sale.

There was a tip somewhere about $2 being too high a cost. Might be right there, $1 for that pack could make a bit more sense for the average punter out there. Will give that one some more thought.

This product is only for people who don't have the time/patience/desire to create it themselves.

By all means get the the programs I mentioned earlier and make them yourself, knowing that If you don't want to, there is a quick fix available for you with the Framed Art pact thats ready to go.

As for my language to folks here on the forum.

Considering what I been labeled as,I think I've been quite fair. My tone has been a bit arrogant, I'll admit, but I can explain this:
I don't measure a man's word's by the words themselves, I measure it by the spirit behing the word's delivery.
Personaly, I'm not concerened with human words, so to speak,
For No acurate judgment can be made here. I tend look at the "spirit" alone. I Guess that makes me I'm blind as a bat yeh?
Or maybe this explanation helps
Sometime a song requires a riff to be "phrased" like Kieth Richards, sometime's the song equires Angus Young instead.
I do what the song requires.

All of the bad vibes I managed to create on this site were probably
my own fault. I have no bad intentions.

I've learned a good lesson here.
I can no longer trust the procedure of buying products which dont have the liscencing "values" I require to get the job done.

Know, that I have copied all posts in these threads, with the intention to pass it on to a lawyer if and when I get the chance.
I will post results immediatly if obtained.

That third party copyright issue would be a nice thing to bury
6 feet under.

Also I'm not trying to"rock" any system. I'm just ignorant of the forum rules. But I am , trying to learn it though.
Be patient with me. Will understand rules one day.

Like I said, hopefully this makes some sense
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 13:30
"Go cook something Bill" you say Mr Black.

Once again I have been taken out of context .

Where, did I claim that the photos used in this pack are from 1990.
My 1990 trip photos are still on film in my cupboard-I havn't put them through the scanner yet and converted them. I don't know where your coming from mate.

geez, im learning fast. I could be here forever defending myself
from one out of context comment to the next.
I understand now why companies online hide their contact pages behind heaps of obsticles and disguises.

Time to drop out of "this forum site" for good.

Thank you all for you support.
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 15:23
Quote: "Guys, there are some really stupid comments in this thread. Quite dissapointing."

The same could be said of you.


Quote: "I can no longer trust the procedure of buying products which dont have the liscencing "values" I require to get the job done."

Welcome to the world of legitimate game development. We all have to make sure that our source materials were obtained in a legal manner; especially if we intend to market or distribute our final product.


Quote: "Know, that I have copied all posts in these threads, with the intention to pass it on to a lawyer if and when I get the chance.
I will post results immediatly if obtained."

You're not the first person to try the "I'm going to get a lawyer" approach to addressing those you don't agree with. Here's a few parts of the AUP you've missed:

Quote: "3.17 Our forums are moderated by both TGC employees and trusted non-paid members of the public who volunteer their services and time for the benefit of the community. By using our forums you automatically agree that they cannot be held personally responsible for any actions arising from these forums. You agree that moderators shall, at their discretion, determine what constitutes a violation of theses terms, along with generally accepted nettiqute standards, and can take action against those who voilate these rules."


Quote: "4.2 We will cancel/remove accounts at our discretion only. Do not threaten us with "legal action" against someone harassing you on the forum. The forums are public places of debate, if you do not like someones message then ignore it. We will not support any legal activity or claims unless specifically directed to us by a solicitor / law firm or law enforcement agency. We and we alone decide if a forum post violates our terms and conditions and it is left up to us if we should remove such a post. The majority of the time we will respect your wishes, but we and we alone make the final decision and there is no appeal process."



Quote: "That third party copyright issue would be a nice thing to bury 6 feet under."

So you're saying that you want us to ignore the rights of the author's work you posted in your first thread? Here's another one you missed:

Quote: "3.1 Do not upload, post, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy (up to, but not excluding any address, email, phone number, or any other contact information without the written consent of the owner of such information), hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable"



Quote: "I'm just ignorant of the forum rules. But I am , trying to learn it though."

That's fine, although you agreed to abide by these rules when you became a member of these forums (remember clicking that "agree" button?).


Quote: "I understand now why companies online hide their contact pages behind heaps of obsticles and disguises."

It's not hidden at all; it's right below the "Post Forum Messege" block, or you can simply find Lee, Rick, Batvink, or Mike's e-mail button.


Quote: "My tone has been a bit arrogant, I'll admit..."

Then you should understand the response from members here. Originally, we only asked for proof of ownership in the many photos you spoke of (but didn't show). From there on out, you let it spiral out of control with your offensive/defensive remarks.


To be sure this community is very supportive of small developers trying to earn a few bucks for their hard work...that has always been the case. But, because of past members taking advantage of them; members are also wary of people who are new, popping in to make a few bucks off of material that is questionable in origin. You say that you've given away many free programs and songs (though the numbers seem a bit off...I'm not sure I know anyone who's made 20,000 programs for free); yet you've done none of that here, so no one knows about it. Therefore, the first thing we see is a new member coming on to sell us all something.

This community is like a small family, we all want to see each other succeed; but we also care about making sure no one is getting taken advantage of. Otherwise most here wouldn't have bothered to post in your thread(s); aside from us Mods who need to enforce the rules here.

But judging from your attitude and posturing, you may not wish to be part of this community. It's up to you; but your first impression has already been made.

-Keith

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 15:34 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 15:36
I think is the hitting the nail on the head over here.
Quote: "Guys, there are some really stupid comments in this thread. Quite dissapointing"

Your the disapointing one. You use copyrighted material and then come back with pack 2 which is apparently done by you after a day, I'm not only disapointed with you but your attitude towards others is disgusting, it may not seem like it.

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well you know the customer allways has too be right

May i just ask why you had to go too all these diffrent countrys woudlnt it be much easyier and more unique too go down the road and take pictures of nice medows and such rather than pictures of historic buildings and sites wich would have billions of photos of and in wich you could probly get of the internet free of wich you can use for anything,
I know that i was take a few pics of a few fields it would be much cheaper and unique
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 20:25 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 20:43
This is what I have to say about stuff on this thread

Quote: "My products are all very cheap"


uh 5 bucks is actually kinda alot around here

Quote: "All of the bad vibes I managed to create on this site were
probably
my own fault. I have no bad intentions."


then my must you constentley act so defensive? you could have said that ages ago



Quote: "Know, that I have copied all posts in these threads, with the intention to pass it on to a lawyer if and when I get the chance.

"



like i said before try to get a lawyer who will take a case over a forum you dont even know who we are

Quote: "Time to drop out of "this forum site" for good.

"


uh we dont care

Cheers, Bobert

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 21:50 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2008 21:58
Quote: "...Time to drop out of "this forum site" for good."


Promise? Bye, billv.

Quote: "...posting a copy,
of my passport with the stamps in it, pictures of me standing in
varoius locations in over 13 European countires, or when I was living and working in England back in 1990."


...that's your quote, billv. I didn't take anything out of context, or make it up.


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I don't have to try to be a lawyer. I AM responsible for my legal issues.BV music is 100% owned by me.

I have a liscence to use the pictures in the First pack, within the bounds of the liscencing agreement.
Interpretation of this liscence lies with me and my leagal team.

Comment to bury Copyright issue is a desire to to clear that Avery copyright issue. Nothing more.

The comment about hiding behind diguises and obsticles, is not a reference to this site, but to a lot of sites in general that hide behind their web pages .


Mr Fred. I didn't say I "made" 20 000 programs.
I said I have "released" 20 000 programs free.

it's very clear this community dosn't want me in this forum
That's all good. I never stay where I am not "wanted".

After listening carefully to the "spirit" of this community in general over the last two days, I've heard enough too.

See ya later and have a nice day.
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 23:28
Quote: "it's very clear this community dosn't want me in this forum"

hmmm untill now only a few have spoken to you in a "great" way.
(in this thread)

But that doesnt mean that the whole community thinks the same.
Also dont give up so quickly just because some people dont like you.

I guess you bought this tool for fun &..for you.. not for others.
(of course if you want to release games just to show some stuff than its different)
I also must say...that i am completely lost what this issue was about.

If you want to leave..than thats your choice...
nothing i or others can do to change that.

(this wasnt meant as an insult to anyone)

bobert
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 01:38
Quote: "it's very clear this community dosn't want me in this forum
That's all good. I never stay where I am not "wanted".
"
Good for you, you have realized the true meaning.

classic gamer
billv
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 01:49
This current issue concerns 'artist integrity'

I have benn called a liar, a crook, dis-honest ect ect. I see this as an attack on my 'spirit".
If you attack "my spirit" in such a manner, I am at WAR.
Let me make that very clear.


I' m gonna finish this issue. A new page will created on my website. It will be a User Feedback page much like the one already there, which can be accessed from the vst plug in page.
A link for this new User feedback page, will be on the 3D Modeling page, as this page will serve 3d modeling issues.

In this page I will post pictures of Europe with ME in them, thus proving that I have travelled Europe, and that BV MUSIC owns all images in
When time allows. a full transcript of these threads will be posted alongside so people can make their "OWN" judgment.
Seeing as this will be on my website, I GAURANTEE you all that
the launguage I will use will be VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR.

"What's done in the dark WILL be brought to the light"-Johnny Cash.

Also, let me make this clear.
This is not about revenge.

The lord said " it is mine to avenge, I will re-pay"

That's good. I'm happy that I can delegate matters of revenge to "spirit", and let "spirit" sort out that sort of crap.

I'm just taking care of buisiness here, you know. Protecting my reputation/honour and character.

Those who believe my words will enjoy the new web page, and no doubt be in stitches with laughter.

Jesus, My ribs are starting to hurt already.

have a nice day, and thanks for all your support (you know who you are)

Ps A small tip for those who seek to "crucify" me with words.
I also hold a degree in Creative Writing from the Australian College Of Journalism.

Don't try to "crucify" me with words.

You cannot win.
Deathead
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 02:00 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 02:00
Quote: "You cannot win. "

Just get over the fact that you lost.
Quote: "I have benn called a liar, a crook, dis-honest ect ect. I see this as an attack on my 'spirit".
If you attack "my spirit" in such a manner, I am at WAR.
Let me make that very clear."

Quote: "I also hold a degree in Creative Writing from the Australian College Of Journalism."

How if you can't even spell Been?Or Guarantee? Or Language? Or Judgement?
Quote: "In this page I will post pictures of Europe with ME in them, "

Hmm.. Anybody could easily get a holiday photo from before and then post it here.
Hmm and if your so religous because you are using the lord as a reference then tell me the ten commandments? And this is one you broke in your last thread...
"THOU SHALL NOT STEAL!"

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KeithC
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 02:09
Wow....just wow.

Quote: "I also hold a degree in Creative Writing from the Australian College Of Journalism."

Must resist urge to reply.....must resist....

Deathead
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 02:14 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 02:15
Ok answer this! Where is it based? This Australian College Of Journalism?

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rolfy
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:29 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 03:35
Quote: "Interpretation of this liscence lies with me and my leagal team."

Well Bill you say you have a 'leagal' team,if you had such a thing why did you say in your other thread you had no lawyer to fight your corner.I smell an increasing amount of bs from you and was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt,your interpretation of that license is an utter nonsense and when I said sell it for 1dollar I meant I could take it and sell it for that,now do you see the illogical garbage you are talking,the Australian college of journalism probably requires that you have a basic grasp of the English language which you seem to lack.
I suggest you get your 'leagal' team to correspond for you from here on in.

Quote: "Those who believe my words will enjoy the new web page, and no doubt be in stitches with laughter."

I dont believe your words,but yeah I can hear the laughter.
What exactly do you think you are going to achieve.


xplosys
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:42
Somebody please..... put this out of it's misery.

Best.

KeithC
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 05:41
Yep; I think we're done here.

-Keith

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