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Xarshi
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 07:23
So I've been working on a song, and I need some constructive criticism. Haha, but please, no useless criticism like "it sucks!". Its going to have words put in soon enough, lost my mic though so I can't put any in at the moment( unless you would like a robot singing to you... which I highly doubt you would ). The name is a WIP.

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Grandma
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 08:27
Living under a rock lately?

We have a Music/SFX board for this kind of stuff.

I like the song, especially the guitar backing, t'was nice. The foreground guitar sounded just a tad out-of-place. Try playing with the EQ there. The drumset sounds at the beginning was a little too "sharp" for my taste. That's the two things that bothered me most. The rest i will leave for people who know what they're talking about.

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 09:15
Quote: "We have a Music/SFX board for this kind of stuff."

I made the same mistake today..


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Xarshi
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2008 18:25
@Grandma - haha, woops, forgot about that board . But yeah, I've been trying to mess around with the EQs. I may add one to the drums to see if that helps.

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Oddmind
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 09:03
you missed a note at 1:28

Its a pretty nice song, but there doesn't seem to be a real solid melody, one I would walk off whistling for days.

I'm not saying you need to have hooks all over the place, but it seems the whole song is scales and runs at different note values.

it's a good starting place, don't quit you have a good idea of what you want, its just that songs need to have a build up and relief that can be measured in exact time increments as to where it all "makes sense". The apex.

You have some good riffs and the sound is pleasant, but the guitar is a bit out of tune either that or the recording was done in such a way that the notes are bent. All sounds a bit flat on the electric.

Don't stop trying. It takes more than training from a professional even to understand music. Only after you understand why music is the way it is, can you write it.

Music doesn't sound good because there is a circle of 5th's or chords with names. That is backwards. The names are in place because the people who discovered these feelings wanted to share the ideas with other people and had to use a universal method of communication known now as music theory.

I know I'm getting real into depth but my whole family are musicians and I've just started figuring this out myself. I was exactly where you are. I'm not saying I'm more developed, because I'm not. Technically I don't even play anything but drums.

Anyways take this with a grain of salt but I'm not talking out of my ass I do have training and everything on theory and all that good stuff. It only takes you so far. Discover feelings and what causes them, after all thats why we listen isn't it? So start at feelings you want conveyed and work backwards.

The song is called feelings, is it not? I want to link an emotion or several emotions with the music. They say smell is the most powerful sense in terms of nostalgia but when I hear a song that makes me feel a certain way boy does it bring back some memories.

You are right with feelings. Work from there.

Xarshi
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 18:38
@Oddmind - Alright man, and yeah, I know I missed the note . I'm working on a clean guitar recording hopefully. And yeah, my guitar likes to go out of tune randomly some times... Ibanez can make you mad sometimes, haha. But thanks for the advice man.

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Oddmind
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 20:19
haha the note thing was more of a joke I don't doubt your technical skill.

Keep working we need more musical types around here.

jrowe
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 21:38 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 21:39
It's nice, not my bag, but still foot tapping. Not bad for a one man job! Most people never get farther than one instrument in terms of song writing so good work. If you've got this far I've no doubt you'll carry on writing and eventually come up with some real headturning stuff.

As Oddmind said, the tuning's slightly out and it goes a bit sloppy at about 1:30.

You need some bass on the piece. Because it's just guitars/hi hat/cymbals, it's all in the mid to high range. By adding some good low tones you can really fill a piece out and make it sound rich. Even though the bass isn't what you notice the most about a piece, you can really tell if it's not there.

You should work on the way it's mixed too. My first reaction to the piece was that the drums are way too high in the mix until the end of minute one. Makes it difficult to hear how the guitars interplay.

Keep at it. It's a promising start.

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Posted: 5th Jan 2008 00:04
Oddmind is alive! I've been reading too many old threads.

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Xarshi
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Posted: 5th Jan 2008 00:10
jrowe - Yeah, I need a bass first... I can play it and everything, but I just don't have enough money to get one, so it kinda sucks. But I can play nearly any instrument I touch. But yeah, I'll admit, this song was put together real fast. In most cases it won't be straight into the chorus type music ( I assume thats what I'm going to call it, judging by the fact there are 3 parts : a chorus that is the very beginning, a breakdown type area, and then a slow down area). And no, as you can tell, I do not know these musical terms, haha. I'm taking music theory whenever my school allows it though, so hopefully by then I'll be able to write less "confusing" music.

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