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CrayZXP
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:05
My computer isn't really old, but i've been getting serious problems:

1. It will start up/reboot with a blank screen and a "fizzling" kind of noise from the fan in back of the computer.

2. When I finally do get to Windows, nothing but the cursor comes up, and I can't get past it.

Please, someone help me, I can't get to any of my projects and my other files!
(i am typing this from the Wii, sorry for any mistakes)

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n008
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:20
Get it checked for viruses and spyware, and hardware issues. It sounds like a combination of the two, but more likely the first.

Keo C
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:33 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 03:38
Fizzing, like when you open a Coke bottle?
Anyway, It could be:
A: A failing case fan
B: A failing Power Supply.

Try opening the case and locating the noise.


CrayZXP
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 03:53
What about Windows not starting? Any solutions for that?

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Osiris
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 04:02
That could be due to overheating or not enough power and the HD not being able to load anything. Just a theory however.

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Keo C
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 04:28
It sounds like a Windows Explorer problem.


SirFire
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 07:51
If your power supply is making a fizzling noise, it could have faulty inversion circuitry (caused by age, overloading, extreme dust buildup), which could lead to load line noise and/or power brownouts to the system, both of which would cause erratic effects on memory, storage devices, and of course the CPU.

Or it could be just a noisy fan.

To determine if you have line noise you would need a very expensive oscilliscope. You could check RMS voltage with a regular multimeter.

My advice is to try a different, more powerful PSU.

If the same operating problems happen with a different PSU, you can probably conclude that it's software related, although it's still possible another piece of hardware is faulty. Cooling system, intermittent hardware connections, bad RAM (seen this a few times). Sometimes the BIOS POST test fails to identify faulty RAM, and you'll have to run a linux bootdisk with memcheck to thoroughly test the RAM.

Have you tried booting into safe mode? If you can make it into safe mode then do some virus scanning and some spyware/adware scanning, run hijackthis and look for shell redirects. Try a system restore.

Try going into BIOS and monitoring your temperatures, cooling fan RPMs and voltage levels to look for variances.

Good luck.

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jasonhtml
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 08:16
or are you talking about the fizzling noise that a CRT monitor makes when you turn it on?

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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 15:04
easy way to check if its a softwere problem, boot a Linux live cd like puppy or knoppix. thay run the whole OS of the cd, so is an easy way of diagnosing problems

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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 17:28 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 17:29
I dont think a software problem will making fizzing sounds at power-on, or mess up the hard-boot process in the bios, it really sounds like (or I would first suspect) the PSU.

Step 1) figure out where exactly the sound is coming from. Go to sleep with the pc off. next morning open it all up and stick your head in the case and listen as you power it on. I'm serious.
the noise could be one of the fans (cpu,psu,case, etc). If the sound is eminating from the psu you should try a swapped one to see if all of the symptoms disappear or not.

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Pixelator
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 18:38
Quote: "I dont think a software problem will making fizzing sounds at power-on, or mess up the hard-boot process in the bios, it really sounds like (or I would first suspect) the PSU."


thats what i was going to say...

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Keo C
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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 21:25
Quote: "HE'S A MIND READER!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"

That was extremely uncalled for.


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Posted: 4th Jan 2008 21:28 Edited at: 4th Jan 2008 21:29
Quote: "That was extremely uncalled for."

it was?
was he ranking on me? i didnt get that at all. I thought he was just trying to be "cutesy"

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CrayZXP
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Posted: 5th Jan 2008 19:46
Okay, finally got the computer to work! I just have to Power on, let it sit for a while, turn off/back on, then I don't get anymore problems! The Windows thing I fixed by choosing on a start-up menu, "Last Known Good Configuration". All your help was appreciated, and I'll keep this thread in mind if these problems get worse.

Thanks

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GatorHex
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Posted: 5th Jan 2008 21:31
Fizzeling is a lose power cable, push it back in. Also as it's an old PC get all the dust cleaned out from your fans / heatsinks as I have seen one set on fire. Will make it run cooler/quiter too

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Pixelator
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 00:20
Quote: "cutesy"

to be truly honest, that offended my very much. Please don't call me that again.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 00:41
Hmm.. People gets more weird by every day..


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Keo C
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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 01:13
Quote: "was he ranking on me?"

No, the excessive ! marks is annoying me for some reason.

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CrayZXP
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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 03:28
Quote: "If the sound is eminating from the psu you should try a swapped one to see if all of the symptoms disappear or not."


So, I should buy a new one? Problem started again, and it is coming from the PSU.

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Keo C
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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 03:30
I think you should buy one. The PSU could fail any time now.
If you have the money, I suggest a modular PSU.

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