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Geek Culture / The definitive website building program ?

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Wehtam_
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 13:13
I've been out of the website design loop for a while and I'm eager to get into it again.

I'm interested in buying the most popular web program but I need input from web designers on what is the most widely used at the moment? I would personaly guess at Dreamweaver, but would I be right ?

Cheers

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Aaagreen
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 14:39
I use dreamweaver, microsoft office publisher is easier and more free than dreamweaver, but dreamweaver is better.

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KeithC
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 15:17
Actually, all I use currently is Web Page Maker V2. It's just a WYSIWYG web page/site maker, but it's quick and easy for me. From what I hear, you'll want to go with Dreamweaver and possibly the whole CS collection (which include PS, unless you already have it). I see numerous people making their web graphics in Fireworks. I imagine the compatability between the programs is nice as well. Lots of bucks for those programs though.

What kind of site are you wanting to make; Flash, HTML, or a combo of both?

-Keith

jasonhtml
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 16:55
i use Dreamweaver MX(its a little old now, but hey, it works just fine). I'm sure if you got a new version of dreamweaver, you would be set.

hessiess
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 16:57
any text editor

Agent Dink
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 17:20
PSPad is awesome and free.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 17:35
Dreamweaver is pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of Microsoft's attempt. You should be able to find demos of the software to try out anyway.

Matt Rock
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 17:50 Edited at: 6th Jan 2008 17:50
Nvu all the way . Although lately I've been using this really cool program called Agent Dink, it even works on holidays hahaha.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 17:56
Quote: "Although lately I've been using this really cool program called Agent Dink, it even works on holidays hahaha."




That was cruel!


I hardcode everything from scratch in notepad.

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n008
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 19:18
Notepad, GEdit, etc. Work just fine... I sometimes use SrcEdit. But I don't do much web design.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 19:48
DREAM WEAVER!!!!!! I made a website about Louis and Clark in it

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Adobe GoLive.

Tom J
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 20:39
Notepad!
Agent Dink
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 22:37
Quote: "Nvu all the way . Although lately I've been using this really cool program called Agent Dink, it even works on holidays hahaha."



andrey d
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 22:44
I enjoy using PageBreeze quite a lot, it's free and has WYSIWYG.
Phaelax
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Posted: 6th Jan 2008 23:16
Nvu is a great free tool. I primarily use Notepad, with a little assistance from FrontPage 98 on occasion.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 01:15
Dreamweaver is brilliant, provided you don't rely on it's WYSIWYG capabilties. It's quite useful for creating complient code, because of it's inbuilt checks, and it's got tons of timesaving tools and features. Latest version is really worth checking out.

If we brush FrontPage aside, since you'd have to be mad to use that to create a site that could even look semi-professional, Microsoft's Expression Web / Sharepoint Designer is quite nice, again not for it's WYSIWYG capabilities though. I had trouble editing PHP pages with it though. When I moved the files over to my *nix server, I had a few weird characters preceding the page. Probably something to do with encoding.

Demos are available for both.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 01:20
Crimson Editor. It's basically just a shiny text editor that will highlight whatever you're writing based on the file extension you saved it with(.html, .cpp, .css, etc) It's very nice.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2008 01:26
I like PSPad as well, especially as you can open and save to FTP quite easily.

Ice Cube
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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 20:40
Well, I'm a web designer and I'm currently working on a freelance basis. That's my website: http://www.yuppieserve.com/ ( I've just upgraded the layout to Tableless).
I will strongly recommend you NOT to use WYSIWYG editors, just because they will add a lot of rubbish code or code which you actually don't need. So in this case, Notepad is a very good choise.
If you really want to spend some money, I think Dreamweaver is the best one. It has a nice highlighting system and is compatible with PHP, CSS, Javascript... If you decide to use the designer mode (I use the coder only), you will be at least sure that it will generate a valid code (Unlike most other editors). You can also validate your current website source code for free here: http://validator.w3.org/

Hope that helps a bit.

Cheers!

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 20:42
Dreamweaver CS and Photoshop CS. Extremely convenient programs.


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Wehtam_
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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 21:07
Thanks for all the advice and feedback guys.

I ended up buying Dreamweaver and I must say, i've been having great fun with Spry widgets and their XML integration (my "Clients" page uses this). I've updated my site as my first live "dabble" in the program.

Thanks again for your recomendations!

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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 21:08
Congrats and good luck with it . Do post when you've got something up!


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Posted: 28th Jan 2008 21:20
I use Notepad to make small, simple web sites. They're not super-CSS-RSS-killer-deathosphere-pwnage-tabless-flash-3D-thingy sites, but they work. And here's the thing; without a dive into the source, most people can't tell the difference. (although the fact that the content is in a frame is a big clue)

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Gedit is good

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Posted: 29th Jan 2008 23:10
Not quite the same thing as you are after I guess, but I quite like Website Baker for building web sites.

Easy to learn if you aren't a whizz web coder but lets you get your hands dirty if you are - and it's free.

TDK_Man

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 10:40
I coded my entire CMS in notepad, then I got a cheap syntax highlighting IDE to make life easy. I really dont like dreamweaver, it generates some gnarly code and leaves fragments everywhere... its good for simple tasks but if youre going for a large project, mostly handcoding is the way to go.

I just use EditPlus- simple, just highlights syntax, can do a couple other things but I havent looked around much as I dont care so long as my syntax is highlighted

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 11:04
Then you just handcode in Dreamweaver? It's pretty darn easy with the syntax highlighted and a lot of little additional helping things.


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I use Notepad++, like John, most of my stuff i've coded, like account management systems and all that, all I need is basic syntax highlighting, and a fast, easy to use interface.

I recommend it!


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Textpad on windows/Kate on linux, not wysiwyg though.

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