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Geek Culture / The power of Google

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tha_rami
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:03
Here in the Netherlands, actually, all over the world, Deepthought couldn't have predicted the number of juridical procedures Google has been facing for their position on the internet.

A salesman of 'e-cigarettes', so called electronic cigarettes that emit less or no nicotine, and no tobacco or health-damaging smoke, has sued Google when they refused to show his AdWords, resulting in a 80% loss of profit for the guy. When he complained, they replied that the site clearly prohibits advertizing of tabacco or tabacco-related advertisements.

Pretty sad and all, surely, but it gets better. Some people started to search Google and found links that contained links to links with websites which did sell 'e-cigarettes'. Within hours, the shouts of hypocrisy, power-abuse, murder, fire and kitten huffing were echoing over the Dutch interwebs. One of these ads was a pharmacy that actually had an obscure sale of an e-cigar on its site (but it didn't promote it on AdSense itself).

I'm personally disgusted by this: Google is a autonomous search engine. Google can't 24/7 check their ads, and they're doing a pretty decent job at keeping the contents semi-relevant (I actually click some of them!) and clean. They hold a large position on the internet, sure. They are the biggest provider of online advertisement, sure. But for gods' sake, can any large website please decide on their own content?

So, what's your thoughts? Is Google 'too big'? Is it 'injustice' to rule out this guys ads based on their policy? Heard of any other case like this (maybe a case in which the person sueing Google was sane)?


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Accoun
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:10
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=117410&b=2
Topic about strange Google ads like "gay hot kiss" or "true religion jeans" (OMFG!!!), so I vote for YES..

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tha_rami
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:22
That's pretty random of ya, though: In that topic we already figured out the ads were pretty person-bound. Why would they discriminate gays or not allow jeans? That's not in their policies...


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BatVink
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:34
It makes sense to me, that these ads are not allowed. In the UK, it is illegal to advertise cigarettes. I'm sure it's the same elsewhere, so it's only an extension of this.

I imagine Google's policy follows the path of least resistance. It is easier to boycott cigarette adverts everywhere because it is easier to police than just doing it in specific territories. The internet has very elastic boundaries, and makes this kind of policing difficult.

It's also not in their interest to ban them. Imagine the loss of revenue by not allowing tobacco-based ads. So my take on this is that it's an ethical decision, possibly driven by legal requirements.
GatorHex
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:41 Edited at: 18th Jan 2008 15:46
Personally I believe it's their business and they can deal with whoever they like. Googles motto is "do no harm".

If you don't like it make your own search engine it's a free world.

I did and all I got for my touble was millions of dodgy porn links. I don't want to censor but some of the headings are a bit worrying and I wouldn't risk clicking them for fear of breaking some law so do I censor or risk being put in prison for linking to illegal porn sites?

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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 15:57
Remember, it translates to "hot 'lesbian' kiss"


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tha_rami
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 16:23
That explains a lot...


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Digital Awakening
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 19:09
As BatVink says, tobacco ads are illegal in some/many countries and if Google wants to have local branches (like they have in Sweden and probably all over the world) they can't allow those ads.

Also, one must separate ads from links. Google is a search engine and as such do no have to ban tobacco sites in the search itself. I think it should be up to the creator of a search engine to allow and disallow links to certain content but since Google is an automated search engine you can't moderate it.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 16:20
I believe cigarrette ads in the US is also illegal. Google being a US company can't advertise them. The websites that use Google ads can of course advertise whatever they want, I don't see why this would be a hypocrisy.


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n008
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 17:10
That's stupid! There are billions of websites, hundred of trillions of millions of words on the internet, and some obscure act of laytered advertising is getting Google sued? PATHETIC.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 20:25
Google just saved my arse. I needed to cite something from a website, but forgot to do it. Then I could not find it on my own, so I went to googles web history and searched for the phrase I was citing, and it popped right up. Google is lovely.

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