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Geek Culture / How much does WoW cost a month?

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 16:32
I've been playing the trail of WoW and kind of like it, but the site doesn't really tell you how much it cost's a month, well I haven't found out, seems like its hiden :\

So does anyone know how much it costs a month?

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 16:49
it costs your dignity.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 16:49
£9

Probably better value for money than buying a full price game every 3 months IMO.


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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 16:54
I'll probably pay for it when I get into Uni or if I getg a job before then

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WoW and uni doesn't mix. Playing WoW takes a lot of time for most users and it's quite addictive. Uni studies also takes a lot of time and is boring so you are prone to play more and study less. I had a lot of free time when I started playing but I stopped after 3 month due to studies taking up too much time to keep playing with my guild. If you get together with some uni buddies and you play together then that could be a great idea though.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:08
If you're poor you could play Tibia, Runescape, War Rock, Track Mania Nations and many others for free.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:10
Quote: "it costs your dignity."


Everyone I know who plays it or used to says that they spend way too much time on it. Most of them play more than 40 hours a week, and their real life/job/family begins to suffer.

I have people who show up at my shop on a regular basis, in a frenzy because their computer is down and they can't play or meet their friends online for a raid. They will pay anything to have it back online as quickly as possible. I have a guy who specializes in WOW backup and recovery. I'm not complaining, but yeah, it's addictive.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:14 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 17:14
I remember hearing somethink once about a free server people could log onto for WOW, (No Monthly Fee), what happened to that?

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:28 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 17:33
You can find unofficial comercial game servers at http://www.xtremetop100.com/ and http://www.mmorpgtoplist.com/

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:29
Free servers are illegal.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:31 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 17:32
I played the Trial of WOW a while ago... But honestly just don't know what the fuss is about. I spent an hour running around doing nothing.
Maybe it isn't my sort of game.

I'd much rather play BF2. Now that is a game and a half.

Or Garry's Mod 10, which I only bought yesterday.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 17:39 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 17:43
Legality of compatibile servers is dubious and I don't know of a court case test.

I think sometime in the past in the early days of PC there was some case about lotus123 and excel spread sheets being able to read/write each others file formats. Which is the norm nowerdays so i guess the case was lost.

So really is making a compatible service/product illegal? Maybe not, but I'm not a lawyer so don't blame me if it is.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 20:56
Private servers are illegal because when you install World of Warcraft onto your computer you "sign" an agreement not to use them. By using them you are breaking the agreement, and the terms of the contract, which Blizzard can legally enforce.

Quote: "Limitations on Your Use of the Service.
Only Blizzard or its licensees have the right to host the Game. You may not host or provide matchmaking services for the Game, or intercept, emulate or redirect the proprietary communication protocols used by Blizzard in connection with the Program, regardless of the method used to do so. Such prohibited methods may include, but are not limited to, protocol emulation, reverse engineering, modifying the Program, adding unauthorized components to the Program, or using a packet sniffer while the Program is running. "
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 21:04
I thought I remember a discussion about in how far companies can enforce the license agreement... how would that apply to this?


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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 21:50
Quote: "played the Trial of WOW a while ago... But honestly just don't know what the fuss is about. I spent an hour running around doing nothing.
Maybe it isn't my sort of game."

Same here, I don't get the addiction .


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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 21:55
It's a nice game to play once in a while, but gets rather repetitive after a while.
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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 22:12 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 22:14
You can put anything in a contract it don't mean it's enforcabe. People claiming back bank charges because of unfair contract terms is an example.

I they want to stop clone servers just encrypt the data. Just leaving your data clear text is just lazy coding that leads to bot cheating.

If Audi make a car can they force you to only use Audi parts for it?

In EU law it would be illegal anti-competition practice, but in reality manufacturers try to patent everything to stop clone parts for 10 years by claiming the parts are new inventions.

A similar battle is being fought for IM clients and their clones.

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WOW gets the most addictive when you are playing in a group. I was playing in this great group of 5 people and we did everything together. But since the others played every day I had to do the same or they would do all the quests and rise in rank and leave me behind. Another thing that makes these kinds of games addictive is how much your character improves, you want that new skill or spell etc. Sure it gets repetitive at times but it's often rewarding when you keep succeeding and you are playing and having fun with others.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:29
I've never liked WoW so much, I mean it was fun; but not worth the monthly subscription fun. hehe

Absolutely love EVE-Online though, it's still great even though I have limited time to play it.

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I gotta say my MMORPG days are def over.

I just don't see why anyone past high school should play it.

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I think the big problems with MMOs is that they require the players to cooperate with others. If I could solo WOW I would probably play it. That way I could play whenever I wanted to without having to bother about other players except for trading.

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Quote: "I think the big problems with MMOs is that they require the players to cooperate with others. If I could solo WOW I would probably play it. That way I could play whenever I wanted to without having to bother about other players except for trading."

Yeah, one of the things I don't like about MMORPG's is the continuous world that goes on even when you aren't there. With singleplayer you drop in right where you left off.


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Um, that's the whole point of "MMO".

If you wanna play alone, just buy a single player game.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 02:18
Quote: "You can put anything in a contract it don't mean it's enforcabe."


Yes it does. That's the whole point of a contract. If the contract was not enforcable then there would be no point in a contract to begin with. In fact, you can pretty much do anything you want if you think contracts are not enforcable. Like, not paying your bills.

Quote: "I think the big problems with MMOs is that they require the players to cooperate with others. If I could solo WOW I would probably play it. That way I could play whenever I wanted to without having to bother about other players except for trading.
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You can solo WoW. You can get from level 1 to level 70 by yourself. The only thing you can't do is get gear from Dungeon or Raid quests (unless you buy them). Which wouldn't really matter considering you're choosing to play by yourself anyway, and its already possible to get to 70 without the Dungeon or Raid gear. The only reason why a solo player would need it is for aesthetic reasons to make their character look cool...
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Quote: "I think the big problems with MMOs is that they require the players to cooperate with others. If I could solo WOW I would probably play it. That way I could play whenever I wanted to without having to bother about other players except for trading."


That's why I like Eve-online more, you can either play Solo or as a Group; or even as part of a loner group lol

WoW really has been far more about teaming up if you get high enough cause doing things on your own just takes too damn long. It's the same with Final Fantasy XI; although the issue with that game is hardly anyone will run past you and request to party every 10seconds.

Quote: "You can solo WoW. You can get from level 1 to level 70 by yourself. The only thing you can't do is get gear from Dungeon or Raid quests (unless you buy them). Which wouldn't really matter considering you're choosing to play by yourself anyway, and its already possible to get to 70 without the Dungeon or Raid gear. The only reason why a solo player would need it is for aesthetic reasons to make their character look cool... "


Solo-ing in it really misses the point of the game though really.

Any of you read the interview with Bioware about their upcoming MMO? They've put a lot of pressure on them to get the whole story aspect (which sucks in basically every other MMO) right. That said if anyone can do it, probably be them first.

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I play MMO's as single player games most of the time. I hardly bother talking to other members, I like playing alone

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I knew I should have bought that tiny violin from Dawsons yesterday. Damn!!

I never got into the whole MMO thing. I loved Fable and I'd probably play it if it were an MMO.

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Quote: "Um, that's the whole point of "MMO".

If you wanna play alone, just buy a single player game."

I know, I'm stating that I don't like that in games, therefore I don't like MMO's


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Quote: "Solo-ing in it really misses the point of the game though really."


Not really. Teamwork really only starts to matter when you enter dungeons, raids, or PvP. Just general questing can be done alone easily. I really think its a waste of time to try and find people to group up on quests with at lower levels. Most of the ones you need a group of people to do are a waste of time, or the time can be better spent completing other quests elsewhere. The only time I quest in a group is if I've helping lower levels and I tell them I'm going to, or if someone needs me to run through a dungeon with them.
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I love games you can play w/ friends. The connection at my College is slow, so I only play online games w/ other people, which means two times on Runescape. Every day there are at least 2 GOW matches on my floor, and often we'll play smash 64 or melee, and a bit of Mario Kart.

Personally though, I'm way in favor of Spore rather than mmos. I love the idea of massive single player games where the content is user created. I like playing with my friends, I couldn't care less about strangers I can't even talk to. It just feels cool to know you're in something bigger than you, and that's the only time I ever play mmos, aside from those two times I did it w/ friends.


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i used to absolutely hate WoW but recently my friend introduced me to it and im hooked, although i play on private servers cause that AU$20 a month thing is BS in my opinion


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I did solo most of my 3 months playing. But if you play as a mage (did that for a month in beta), or even worse a priest, you can't solo many regular quests. Some quests are also very tough on the other classes as well. I think dungeons add to the game and not playing them means you lose out on some good stuff. Playing dungeons with idiots you just teamed up with is only frustrating.

What I meant with playing with others is a problem with MMOs is just how this tend to make the game addictive.

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I played it for awhile, but it bored me to death. Everything was so tedious. Left and right the quests were "kill 15 of these" or "collect 20 of these" or "kill this thing that lurks in this place" etc.

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WOW is a great game imo, I have always loved RPG's though.
The way some people get on is if 9 pounds monthly is a big deal...compared to my part time wage its nothing. Yes I go to UNI as well.

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Well,
Someone in my family has got World of Warcraft. But personally I prefer the simpleness of Runescape. Its easy to understand. You can cancel membership anytime and can still play on F2P. Also £3.20 a month isn't half bad.


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it costs too much, i prefer a healthy mix of other cheaper, better games like Runescape and TF2 with a bit of Crysis and COD4 multiplayer thrown in as well. Even paying for runescape is a third of WoW.
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Quote: "Even paying for runescape is a third of WoW."

Exacly. So you could have 3 runescape accounts on members for the same as one account on WoW!


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Ye, but then you're playing runescape


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exactly, Jerico2day.
I hate runescape...
however, Crysis Powestruggle is amazing, however there are too many hackers.
Or get guild wars, which is totally free after you pay for the game itself.

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Quote: "I hate runescape..."

Thats why you said
Quote: "eww you play runescape"

in one of my threads!

BTW
Quote: "I hate runescape..."




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... Or you could play furcadia for free...

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Quote: "Or you could play furcadia for free... "

What you mean this
Apparently its been running since 1996.
But i still ain't playing it!


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they were at different times! Said what was on my mind!
in your thread i saw it on the link bar.

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In Runescapes defence, it starts you right away with fun interesting quests, whereas WOW starts you with those around level 70. And also Runescape runs in a browser. You can play it while you're surfing the web. If you like MMO's there's no reason to hate the current version of RS, unless you haven't actually played it. It's as simple as that. Runescape actually does a better job with the learning curve than most MMOs, and makes it really easy to find other players. And the Quests are all interesting. And furthermore, it updates more than any other MMO, including graphics. The one real hitter to RS is the draw distance. It's slowly getting longer, but when you're up in the top of a tower, it's a real drag to see black below you instead of the landscape stretch out into the distance, which would reveal some rather nice scenery.


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Sadly, Graphical Capability seems to be what's on everyone's mind, all the time, Biz.


Quote: "Apparently its been running since 1996.
But i still ain't playing it!"

Wrong choice.

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Funny thing is RS has pretty good graphics in the updated areas, and they're improving the character animations and npc models, as well as character models. I don't get what's taking them to update the most common armour models though. I'm hoping there it a large armour and weapons visual update in the next few months. I don't play very often, but I really like seeing content improved and added to it.


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Runescape has a reputation for being graphically incapable, sadly, and that reputation would take forever to repair.

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Seems to me runescape is low quality in graphics in order to run on a range of specs and keep download/loading times down...not anything else, they actually hire pro 3D modellers to do their work and the job applications for them seems pretty good...to note that, if you live near Cambridge, good at 3D modelling, know how to handle most 3D programs, and wouldn't mind starting at £20k then you can do your share of updating the graphics.

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Quote: "Or get guild wars, which is totally free after you pay for the game itself."

And which sucks .


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never played it, wouldn't know. (you get what you pay for?)

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