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n008
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:37 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2008 00:38
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/

Ok, can some one please explain?

Did the microsoft heads start doing some kind of funky drug?

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Ed222
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:41
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Do gooders and lego blocks???
Somebody needs a little break from T.V. and more time in school namely Bill Gates

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:43
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Uhh... Wow, that special.


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:49
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/game/

There's a game too, btw it's aimed at school kids.
Unfortunately Microsoft PR aren't exactly ever on the ball when trying to get teens in to their products.

:coughZUNEcough:

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Ed222
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 00:52 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2008 00:53
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WTF? it looks like something only
windows -00000000000000000000000.0000000000000000000000000000000001
would run
*cough*ITDevelopers?*cough*

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n008
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 01:02
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Quote: "If you’re really into this game (dude, get a life!) and want to know about its origins, here you go:"




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Sid Sinister
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I almost choked on my altoid when I saw that.

I noticed there's no black people in the 'force.' There's Asian, but no African American. I think MS is racist lulz

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Ed222
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 01:11
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Maybe they just forgot??

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 01:14
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cough! cough!
excuse me

Microsoft lost it..or at least the founder Bill Gates when he said that no app or game will ever go beyond the 640k memory barrier.

And it was solidified when Paperclip creepy dude was introduced too.

So.....its not surprisingly that you're meeting the Farce. But to help their Farced Fource...

why not take the Kids Programming Language and Phrogram and implement buiding block lego type of codes,commands and functions for both little and big kids.
Visual Lego Code Builder Express 2008

have some of the lego characters from Star Wars and other games help your kids construct block codes.

ahhhhhhhh!

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Whoever said that 640k thing, it wasn't Bill Gates:
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1997/01/1484
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 01:32
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I was thinking they could remake this in dark basic pro....Na..(Advertiseing DBP on Microsoft)

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o_0

Yeah, they might be good programmers but can't they afford a decent graphics artist? The original Veggie Tales episodes from 15 years ago looked better than those videos LOL.

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n008
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They aren't even good programmers, just ask any DX developer about the documentation

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Mr Z
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Lol. But MS are not loosing their minds. They lost it a LONG time ago .

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 02:40
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Quote: "They aren't even good programmers, just ask any DX developer about the documentation"


You're on crack. Why don't you look at the documentation yourself and tell us they're not kickass programmers.


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 02:47
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They lost it shortly before programming Windows ME, they found it and briefly had while programming Windows XP, gone by the time Vista started.


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 02:47 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2008 02:48
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They're not kickass programmers.

EDIT:

I just realized that the Windows Kernel abbreviations spell out "Cement"

CE + ME + NT



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ionstream
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Yeah, because you're totally the authority on what's good programming and what's not.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 03:52
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Just because you can't understand the documentation -.- Or you haven't even looked at it.
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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 04:14
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HA HA HA!(caps off)

This is so funny lol.

Its also so dumb to lol.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 06:42
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Out of curiosity, care to elaborate? I'd love to hear your reasoning behind this. We are on a developer forum so please be technical in your response.


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 06:44
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Can't wait to here the answer to this


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 08:07 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2008 08:08
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umm... is this for real?
It says they are "notorious" doesn't that mean famous for being criminals?

LEGO should sue their ass!

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The damn links don't work either!

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 08:37
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concerning Bill Gates and the 640k memory barrier:

in a way he said that it would be freedom of enough for 640k of general memory memory for at least 10 years.

"So that's a 1 MB address space. And in that original design I took the upper 340k and decided that a certain amount should be for video memory, a certain amount for the ROM and I/O, and that left 640k for general purpose memory. And that leads to today's situation where people talk about the 640k memory barrier; the limit of how much memory you can put to these machines. I have to say that in 1981, making those decisions, I felt like I was providing enough freedom for 10 years. <audience laughing..."

maybe he should have elaborated more and explained better back then??

A lot of games back then were 384k to around 512k or reached the upper limit of 640k and also had Himem and extended memory too.
No wonder people thought and talked about 64ok being the upper memory barrier. Or even construed about what Bill Gates said or rumored to have said.

so, I do stand corrected but up to a point.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 10:40
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What if I miss a Superhero in the set?

Better get real creative with that potato."

At least they've got a sense of humor

And why is everyone at MS's throats all the time? I'm sure the majority of TGC forum-ers have MS OS's.

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From Wikiquote:

"640K ought to be enough for anybody"

Often attributed to Gates in 1981. Gates considered the IBM PC's 640kB program memory a significant breakthrough over 8-bit systems that were typically limited to 64kB, but he has denied making this remark.[3] Also see the 1989 and 1993 remarks above.


Quote: "I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time... I keep bumping into that silly quotation attributed to me that says 640K of memory is enough. There's never a citation; the quotation just floats like a rumor, repeated again and again."


* Bloomberg Business News (19 January 1996); also WIRED (16 January 1997)


Quote: "Do you realize the pain the industry went through while the IBM PC was limited to 640K? The machine was going to be 512K at one point, and we kept pushing it up. I never said that statement — I said the opposite of that."


* U.S. News & World Report (20 August 2001)

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Well I did enter Microsoft Corp and threaten Bill Gates with a big potato on a stick that if he didn't make these absolutely ridiculous 'Source Fource' figures to prove that he need to step away from Microsoft then I would stick is head in a live Microwave for 3 Minutes and have Instant Gate Noodles!

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2008 13:59
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And now prove to us why you're qualified to make that statement, ever actually code something big? Or design and program the most widely used operating system, game api, office suite and god knows what else?

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I don't think he's going to answer. while the DX documantation is CONFUSING at times, the right book helps alot

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The DirectX documentation makes sense if you read the damn tutorials. The problem about confusion comes in when you don't understand s*** about lower-level programming or the concepts it shows.

Funny enough all the people here b****ing about MS are the same people who use their products so they can use DirectX and DBP. The funny thing is DBP doesn't even implement all of the features DirectX has to offer.

I find it amusing that while people are calling Bill Gates an idiot or having lost his mind, it was him and his company that brought personal computing to where it is today, cheap (Compared to the pricey mac), easy to use and understand, and an industry standard. Not to mention all the leaps and bounds in graphics acceleration and multimedia applications in terms of performance and quality since Windows became the premier gaming platform.

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n008- you're kidding right, that looks so awesome...how could you hate that?


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Aaron Miller's rant = truth

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Posted: 23rd Feb 2008 20:35 Edited at: 23rd Feb 2008 20:40
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Quote: "it was him and his company that brought personal computing to where it is today, cheap (Compared to the pricey mac), easy to use and understand, and an industry standard. Not to mention all the leaps and bounds in graphics acceleration and multimedia applications in terms of performance and quality since Windows became the premier gaming platform"


Personally, I'd like to thank the Apple Lisa above and beyond anything and everything made Microsoft. Fine, it wasn't a market success, but it sure did some revolutionary things. Heck, without it, we wouldn't have point-and-click, cut-copy-paste or drag-and-drop.

Where are Microsoft's "revolutions" that "brought personal computing to where it is today" besides copying everything before it? I do give them credit: They've taken very important technology, and made it accessible to a wider market. But in terms of actual design and innovation, repackaging everyone else's stuff does not stand highly in my book of "companies I respect"

EDIT: The Xerox Star predates the Lisa,and introduced some pretty important stuff too, like WYSIWYG,


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Quote: "The problem about confusion comes in when you don't understand s*** about lower-level programming or the concepts it shows."


I would agree with that aside from the fact that DirectX programming is not low-level. C++ is a high-level language, and DirectX is a high-level API that takes care of a lot of the difficulty in using different types of chipsets.


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Wow what's with all the MS hate? I find that a lot of people just hate MS because everyone else hates them. Come on people lose the gang mentality and take advantage of the products they release. For example, XNA, all I can say is that it's amazing. I recently got my creators club license and I'm having a blast coding for the 360.

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I just do not really like how the company acts (like how they sued linux and such things). Have nothing against their product. And I do know they have done some really good things for the computer buisness, but I still do not like some of their actions. Does not mean my view is less worth, it only means we look differently on things.

And good luck with XNA! Hope you enjoy it. I tried to once, but I´m to bad at 3d to understand it (ok, I confess I did not try very hard, was not that motivated).

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I wonder when someone is gonna break it to them that 'The Fource' has been used before...

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DavidR, I suggest you watch the movie Pirates of Silicon, Apple was as much of an idea thief in its time as Microsoft.

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