Quote: "perhaps its just the game your interested in and not the computer or the facets it yields, let alone the full scope of all machiens available"
For my part, I'm not much of a game player. But, in many cases this is very, very true.
Obviously MS sees it, or we wouldn't have the XBox.
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Quote: "I dont know what would make you post, cept for your ignorance and bias towards the lowest of processors and architecture"
I've had this argument in another forum before.
The best system almost never wins.
PC < Mac
Genesis < SNES (SNES did pull ahead late, tho)
PS < Gamecube
DOS < UNIX
Intel < AMD (later AMDs) < Motorola/IBM
IDE < SCSI
Allies < Axis
Good < Evil
Cheap usually wins. If you read the earlier parts of the post, you'll see we covered this base.
By the "good" standard, we should all driver Jaguars. Yet, there are many cars from mfrs like Daewoo, Geo, Hyundai (sp?) on the road. Granted, most of them, if any successful, are absorbed by larger mfrs.
We'd all love to a nice car. Economics doesn't work that way.
It is ridiculous to assume the same principles don't apply to the computer industry.
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BIAS?!
The minute you mention bias, you're drown in flawed argument. In order to argue, you must be biased.
"Marketplace of ideas" mean anything?
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Quote: "Most of the things you probably deem cool have passed through a mac in one stage of its life, whether it be by design or essential use to bring it to the market place."
Yeah. And Apple has always failed to capitalize on early leads. Their like watching a bad football team (American, or the version where you actually use your feet).
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Quote: "You never mentioned anything about code warrior and therefore I can only assume your ignorant again to its full usage."
Code Warrior gets thrown around a lot when folks defend Mac programming. However, it is one of only a few good IDEs for Mac.
Yes, I overstated when I said "nothing like Visual Studio".
I did take a look at the website, and the OSX version of Code Warrior does look pretty nice.
There are no good free IDEs for Mac. Apple never had an equivalent to QBASIC to spur interest. QBASIC was one of the greatest piece of PR that MS has ever done -- giving every kid the hope that he could make the same stuff.
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Indi, I respect what you say, but . . .
"I can only assume your ignorant again" -- THANKS! Every time someone makes a point, and maybe gets a little overzealous, they're "ignorant".
"Unaware"? "Have not encountered"? No . . . "ignorant".
I's ig'nent cuz i jus don'ta know how t'agree wit chew.
This is why everyone treats computer people like lepers. Nah. . . at least, lepers are capable of fair word choice.
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TNT BASIC looks pretty cool.
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Still, look what they did to the GIMP for Mac! Charging!
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Quote: "Apple are not interested in your data as much as MS seems to be, Something Im not happy about is prying eyes."
What is this big information thing with people? Nobody gives a damn about any of us.
MS has never busted through my door and threatened everyone!
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As for MSDN . . .
Let's be fair, you find your info from MS.
Yeah, it isn't as nicely organized. So? It is there, and they don't try to turn you to their products.
And, MS gives no hassles if you never want to register with MSDN. The info is still very accessible.
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Adding a Control Panel? God I hate it when when installers do stuff like that!
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The fact is, Macs are a lot like European cars -- they run great straight from the lot, but God forgive you if ever need to fix them.