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Geek Culture / Books or Web pages on 'Making a web site' and the pit falls.

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HowDo
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 16:22
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Hi All,

Can anyone recommend books or websites on starting, loading and setting up your web site , the pit falls and things you should do to keep it yours and not find you've been hacked taken over.

I know there some programs out there can do it all for me, but some are not cheap.

So doing the learning curve on webbing.

cheers HowDo

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Zappo
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 16:59
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There are many books on server security and hardenning your operating system but it would depend upon what you intend to use, e.g. Linux, Windows Server 2003, Apache, IIS, MySQL, MsSQL etc. There are entire books all about setting up and protecting each of those elements.

I can recommend a very good book on Web design, full of hints and tips to avoid bad navigation etc. Its called "Web Pages That Suck" by Vincent Flanders, and its follow up book "Son of Web Pages That Suck". It describes good design by looking at existing sites which show bad design. I read them years ago and they are very amusing as well as informative.


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HowDo
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 17:05
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Thanks Zappo will into those books, I think I should have said web page using an ISP provider I have about 50meg to play with.

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Jeff032
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 20:04 Edited at: 11th Mar 2008 20:06
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I don't know any boooks, but don't use framesets or the <font> tag, use CSS instead, and

Contrast
Repetition
Alignment
Proximitity

[EDIT]
Useful website
http://www.w3schools.com/

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Agent Dink
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http://www.w3schools.com/

Enjoy

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Jeff032
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 20:06 Edited at: 11th Mar 2008 20:10
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Agent Dink beat me to it

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hessiess
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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 20:15 Edited at: 11th Mar 2008 20:26
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Quote: "I don't know any boooks, but don't use framesets or the <font> tag, use CSS instead, and"


also;
don't use any html formatting tags, HTML for content, CSS for formatting
don't use tables for page layout.
don't use frontpage unless you like bolted spaghetti code dreamweaver is better, but hand coding is better still.
the advantages of frames websites are easily replicable using PHP and CSS

you WILL have stupid compatibility issues with IE6, which is still the most used(and lest standards compliant) browser.

htmldog is good for learning standards compliant XHTML

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I'm using Expression Web, which actually works rather well, but you probably shouldn't go and buy it (I got it for free ) It makes using CSS easy and the code it generates doesn't really seem any different from what I'd type, but I've got it in split screen so I'll code some stuff and not other stuff.

I had messed with Frontpage before, and Expression Web just seems a lot ... nicer. I haven't tried Dreamweaver though.


-Sans-serif makes large blocks of text more readable.
-Don't center align one half, and left align the other half
-Remember to specify the alt tag for images
-Format one piece tags like this <br /> <img src="..." alt="..." />
-Pick your favorite color below

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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 22:02
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Thanks, I like the W3school site and ccs looks like it might be dead easy to get to grips with unlike some of the others you said above.

If am right I can just stick some of the codes into note pad then call the file with IE7, Yes.

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Posted: 11th Mar 2008 22:16 Edited at: 11th Mar 2008 22:17
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Quote: "If am right I can just stick some of the codes into note pad then call the file with IE7, Yes."


yes, correct.
so long as the structure is OK, links and image tags point to valid locations and the CSS propaties point to valid elements in the (X)HTML it should work without problems

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Thanks hessiess.

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