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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Are you a geek in school that wants to become popular?

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Posted: 30th Mar 2008 22:58
Why would I want to be popular. In my experience most people are idiots (especially in highschool), create a small group of friends who you can trust and rely on, be courteous to others, be kind and professional to co-workers, ignore the idiocy (you look like an idiot when you respond).

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Posted: 30th Mar 2008 23:24
No point in being popular. Just be yourself and find others who can appreciate you for who you are. If people don't like you for being real then they're all pretty sad souls and not worth your time in the first place.

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Posted: 30th Mar 2008 23:48
Wait...geeks can't be popular?

I've known popular geeks in my life time...heck a lot of geeks do have a number of friends (they could be geek friends...), it's just if you're quiet and shy or percieved in any way weak that you become a target or unpopular.

That's the basis of it, bullys look for victims (and people who 'want to be cool' will sheep bullys) and other people tend to make friends with people who'll speak confidentally with them. It's about being socialable and confident and not making enemies, being a geek has little to do with it. (though you do get anti-geeks, as you get anti-Jocks, anti-Emos, anti-Goths, anti-Chavs etc. that's all with the bigotry of people and stereotyping)

"Experience never provides its judgments with true or strict universality; but only (through induction) with assumed and comparative universality." - Immanuel Kant
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 08:18 Edited at: 31st Mar 2008 08:19
Quote: "Apparently, but they say themselfes that they don't make any political decisions there so I guess we'll have to trust them on that. Afterall, when the most politically/economically influental people in the world meet at one place, they usually have pie eating contests. Nothing to worry about."

Of course, they must be discussing how Saturn is closer to the Sun than Earth is (which was Rothschild's answer to why its moons were starting to melt, along with Mars, ect, on the topic of global warming). And they're also probably talking about how to help the environment by raising oil prices to $200 a barrel. Silly us, how could we ever suspect them.
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:11
Quote: "a) Weren't making it sound like some sort of advert and"

You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk, shortening almost every single word. And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word.

Quote: "To make it short and simple, don't care about all this 'status' jazz. Just be yourself, and live with it."

The only reason you don't believe in the status is that you are a geek yourself and you think people shouldn't have a status that way you are not insulted. In addition, another reason you don't believe in status is that when online posting in a forum, nobody can see your physical body, which is probably full of fat, so people respect you, in which you think the computer is your "sanctuary"

It is important to remember that while you are a geek, there are populars among you. It is my final wish that this thread is now blocked.
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:24 Edited at: 31st Mar 2008 20:24
Wow... Insulting people on a Forum you've only just joined. Good going on making an impression.

Honestly.. who the f*** are you to come on a public forum and give personality advise? Your probably some dweeb who thinks he is popular.

There are a lot of people on this Forum who are more intelligent than you. Thinking your God's gift is getting you nowhere.
I tried to avoid this thread as much as possible, but you just pissed me off in your last post.

Pretty much all the users on here are good people. We don't need some noob insulting them!
Good day to you!

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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:37
Quote: "You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk, shortening almost every single word. And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word."


Hey Light Samus, you forgot to add a period to the end of your second last paragraph.

Don't you just hate that Zotoaster guy?
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:38
Quote: "And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word."


Also, you're not suppose to put a full stop (period) in front of a comma like that, it looks silly, like '!?'. Advert is no longer an abbreviation, it is a word - so 'advert.' is a daft way of putting it. It's called language change.

Quote: "You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk,"


'English' has a capital 'E', 'text talk' hardly follows any kind of standardized English. And 'correct' English isn't the right way to put it, 'English' is always changing, try making a 'correct', if anybody spoke 'correct' English, then we'd be speaking in the tongue where Old English was called 'English' or whatever the Old English word for English was.

I'm never usually pedantic on such matters, but you're going around saying 'people can't type correct English' when I can find a few bones to pick myself. So I'm trying to make the point that it's bloody daft to go around picking people up on their English. (and bloody insensitive to dyslexics and people who don't speak English as a first language.)


Quote: "Quote: "To make it short and simple, don't care about all this 'status' jazz. Just be yourself, and live with it."
The only reason you don't believe in the status is that you are a geek yourself and you think people shouldn't have a status that way you are not insulted. In addition, another reason you don't believe in status is that when online posting in a forum, nobody can see your physical body, which is probably full of fat, so people respect you, in which you think the computer is your "sanctuary""


You're making assumptions on posters here, people shouldn't be labeled because in the long run, they are meaningless - when you're out in the real world being a chav, jock, geek, metalhead whatever is only a way of describing yourself, but it's meaningless in the fact in the real world 'who you are' matters as opposed to 'what you are' and that's how to keep decent friends and lead a good life...if you strive to be popular then you're too superficial. Yes advice against bullying is good, nobody likes being judged badly based on their differences. But I'm friends with a vast number of different people, 'pretty' boys, goths, emos, geeks, nerds, anime fans, gamers, trendies, Punks, Metalheads, indies, ravers. The reason I'm friends with them is because they're lovely people and we share common interests and they like me for who I am, yeah it hasn't got me a girlfriend , but you know so what?...what your label is 'is meaningless' in the real world, idiots at school will force you to believe that is by using yours against you, but they do that for a number of reasons, they're superficial in some respects - they don't bother knowing who you are first, thus just only stick to what they call 'cool' so that they can be popular. They grow out of it eventually when they realize the real world has depth. What they think doesn't matter, because when they grow up a bit they might like you, depends who you are really.

"Experience never provides its judgments with true or strict universality; but only (through induction) with assumed and comparative universality." - Immanuel Kant
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:45
Quote: "You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk, shortening almost every single word. And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word."


Being that "advert" is a pretty UK thing to say, it's likely they don't add a period after the abbreviation. Someone from that area would have to comment on that one.

And this is an Internet forum, not some kind of circle for grammar-nerds. Who cares if they abbreviate words as long as it's legible?


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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:52
I think periods after abbreviations is an American thing. If I pick up the book I've got beside me now I'm seeing 'Mr' and 'Mrs' with no periods.

Quote: "Quote: "a) Weren't making it sound like some sort of advert and"
You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk, shortening almost every single word. And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word."


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Hnstly, Ud thnk ud lrn nt 2 lbl ppl bfr Evn mtn thm. Who are you to comment on proper grammar?

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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 20:52
im not popular in school, neither am i unpopular, i wouldn't even what to be popular in my school becuase all the popular people all smoke and do bad things
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 21:01
Quote: "i wouldn't even what to be popular in my school becuase all the popular people all smoke and do bad things"


Personally, I would see that as an opportunity to set an example.


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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 22:00
You may know how to be popular in your school, but you haven't got a clue when it comes to people on forums.

I go to a school where most of the people are very smart, so there are quite a lot of people who are technically "geeks", yet are still popular.

Also, almost all of the geeky people I know aren't fat like you suggested, so your geek stereotype is wrong.
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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 22:23 Edited at: 31st Mar 2008 22:26
Quote: "thread is now blocked. "


Another correction upon you - It's locked, not blocked.

Also, You are a noob if you think we are wrong to say advert.

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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 22:36 Edited at: 31st Mar 2008 22:37
Quote: "The only reason you don't believe in the status is that you are a geek yourself and you think people shouldn't have a status that way you are not insulted. In addition, another reason you don't believe in status is that when online posting in a forum, nobody can see your physical body, which is probably full of fat, so people respect you, in which you think the computer is your "sanctuary"
"


Think that sums up why most people who are obsessed with popularity (i.e. Light Samus) are narrowminded shallow little turds.

Who are you to say these things, and why do you, or anyone else, care about what you say or think? I'm pretty certain you're far from popular on these forums.


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Posted: 31st Mar 2008 23:15
Quote: "Look no further! I had the same problems until I learned the four greatest things you can do to become an extremely sociable person."


Great start. I like you already.

Quote: "The only reason you don't believe in the status is that you are a geek yourself and you think people shouldn't have a status that way you are not insulted. In addition, another reason you don't believe in status is that when online posting in a forum, nobody can see your physical body, which is probably full of fat, so people respect you, in which you think the computer is your "sanctuary""


Way to go! Now everyone knows that you are full of hot air ... extremely sociable huh?

I think we'll keep an eye on your posts for a 3 or 4 weeks.

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Oh, you guys crack me up.

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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 01:37
Quote: "You people can't even speak correct english in your text talk, shortening almost every single word. And even when you shorten a word, like advert., you are supposed to add a period after the shortened word."


That would probably carry some weight if you were any kind of mildly notable member on this forum, assuming we would even care about you and what you had to say in the first place, which we clearly don't, so I guess we can go back to speaking butchered english.

At least you can go back to doing what you do best: Handing out simplified advice from books and charming everyone around you with your charisma and likeable personality.

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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 02:36
TBH, everybody in my school is a geek, in a way. I honestly can't go a day without hearing someone far off say "I haxd ur server", "ur a newb" or "I am teh 1337". I am actually considered relatively popular at my school.

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This thread is kind of a joke

Quote: "The only reason you don't believe in the status is that you are a geek yourself and you think people shouldn't have a status that way you are not insulted. In addition, another reason you don't believe in status is that when online posting in a forum, nobody can see your physical body, which is probably full of fat, so people respect you, in which you think the computer is your "sanctuary"

Though that was cruel, very cruel, I somewhat agree. Although my choice of words would've been much different.

And I don't completely agree with your 4 steps. I'm not an extremely popular person but I'm well known throughout the school and I generally have a negative/pessimistic attitude. I hate a lot of people at my school and I've never kept it to myself lol. And I have an extremely hot girlfriend. Then again I might just be a rare exception.

Hot GF here
For those that don't believe I'm a closet nerd with a hot GF go there lol.

[edit]You may only click that link if you aren't a pervert and are only clicking it because you don't believe me.

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I'm not clicking that link simply to show respect for your girlfriend. If that really is your girlfriend. Why would you exploit her on the internet? Dude, show some respect Seriously do you want a bunch of horny dudes looking at her and fantasizing?



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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 02:51 Edited at: 1st Apr 2008 02:58
Quote: "I'm not clicking that link simply to show respect for your girlfriend. If that really is your girlfriend. Why would you exploit her on the internet? Dude, show some respect Seriously do you want a bunch of horny dudes looking at her and fantasizing?"

You are all a bunch of people I'm never going to meet in my entire life. What could I care? I'm not going to run into you on the streets and hear you say, "Hey you're that guy that posted a picture of his girlfriend." And then I'd say, "Ya I'm the guy that's in love and doesn't care who knows!" Either way I was just making a point on this stupid thread.

I edited the post with the link. I didn't get rid of it though.

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I'm considered a geek at school but I've got a few girls hanging over me at school. I don't know why the maker of this thread even bothered, my point of advice: Just be yourself, don't be what you aren't.

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Gotta admit, Jenkins, you were right. You are a closet nerd.

And, yeah, she looks cute.

If my girlfriend wouldn't object against it, I would have no problem posting her picture on the internet neither. Why would I? I think I even posted a pic of me and her before on here.


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Quote: "If my girlfriend wouldn't object against it, I would have no problem posting her picture on the internet neither. Why would I? I think I even posted a pic of me and her before on here."

Hehe. Well she doesn't know I design games on the side. She's never even heard of FPSC for all I know lol.

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As you can see new guy, threads get randomly hijacked by various people for various reasons concerning varios topics tons of times.

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Lawls, geek culture used to be cool....

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Quote: "As you can see new guy, threads get randomly hijacked by various people for various reasons concerning varios topics tons of times."

When the threads are this silly, yes I agree the thread will be hijacked.

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It's a real surprise that any of you can program with improper grammar. It's no wonder I see tons of 'can you help me?' threads in the DarkBASIC boards. (I go there on rare occastions to see that, I program in FPS Creator) In addition, if you people think I can't be respected because I am a "noob" is completely stupid because you should respect everybody. Also, I'm not the only popular here. My friend, Dark Samus, (who rarely posts) attends the same school I do and is also a popular.

Oh, by the way, it's a good thing to keep the social pyramid in mind.
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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 11:27
Quote: "you can program with improper grammar. "


'improper use of grammar' - though I'd argue that 'proper' doesn't exist, but 'standard' does. Attacking people for their English is low, especially when yours isn't exactly flawless. This also shows how much you know about programming, programming doesn't use an English grammar system, it just seems to me you're getting petty.

Quote: "if you people think I can't be respected because I am a "noob" is completely stupid because you should respect everybody. "


No, it's because you're hotheaded, defensive and are attacking members with your posts...yes your original post seems a bit daft but people have made reasonable points, now you've become a hot potato I don't think anybody can give you respect. Some of us despise the word 'noob', others don't. Add the fact you're being petty, which isn't something people respect.

And what's this aim with 'popularity', who cares how many friends you got, surely it's what friends you got? I think it's really superficial to turn around and say 'look at how many friends I've got'. I stuck away from the popularity vote at school (most people at school were idiots and I didn't like them), and I've made some of the greatest friends in the world who are a great laugh to go out with, and you know what, now I'm continuing to make more and more friends and get on great socially at uni.


Also on the note of abbreviations, 'advert' to me is no longer and abbreviation, nor is 'mod', so when I type I don't use a period (as you yanks call it. ) but if I were to type 'he took advantage' as an abbreviation, I'd use the period - 'he took adv.', but I think abbreviations like that look stupid in writing, especially when you follow it with a comma...though if you're note-taking then I can see it being handy, otherwise lazy. But grammar and punctuation is changing anyway - as it always has, language is accommodating for new things in the age of technology. Though if 'text' speak becomes standard English I'm converting to Norwegian.

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Quote: "It's a real surprise that any of you can program with improper grammar. It's no wonder I see tons of 'can you help me?' threads in the DarkBASIC boards. (I go there on rare occastions to see that, I program in FPS Creator)"


It's a good thing that I did use proper grammar then isn't it?

The DB forums are fine, with only the occasional noob post, on the other hand the FPSC forums had that event where loads of people left because of the behavior of other users, or weren't you here when that happened? Your dig at the DB forums is unjustified, you're just angry.
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My top tip for surviving skool. Make friends with the biggest strongest kid in you class. Noone will mess with them or their friends. How do you make friends with them you ask? Sweets (Candy for USA)

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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 13:33 Edited at: 1st Apr 2008 13:34
Yeah, the old little kid with the big kid tricks works...I remember when the one I knew told his big friend that I said he had a weak punch...turns out he DOES have a weak punch. Though the little guy is easy to win over, non-violent retaliation works like a charm, pick him up and move him (perhaps put him on top of a table), bluffing etc. unless the big friend considers it 'picking on him' then that's a little different.

There's an even easier way to beat the 'big guy, little guy' syndrome, it's called a crowbar.

[edit] for the record I don't condone violence, especially when it's cowardly violence that uses a weapon against an unarmed person...may last comment for those pedantic few in the world is a joke.

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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 14:25
Quote: "because you should respect everybody"


Uh huh. You're such a shining example of perfection that everyone should respect you even when you insult almost everyone here. If being popular means acting like you, I'd rather be a 'geek'.

There are over 100 billion galaxies in our observable universe, each containing up to a trillion stars.

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My view on popularity has always been the same. I am myself, and I value quality over quantity. If I happen to pick up a lot of friends, kudos to me, but if I have a small group of really tight friends(which I do), I'd much rather that, than a large group of friends, even if they are remotely good friends. If I'm truly friends with someone, they're like family to me, and that tends to happen on a smaller scale.

As for the way you've portrayed yourself in this thread, I'm sorry. You've shown a lack of maturity and respect that I hope you'll at the very least learn from. If you've honestly been trying to help people with this thread, my advice is that you be nice to those you're trying to help. There were perfectly valid points made that you retaliated aggressively to. Unless I missed something, nobody made intentional attacks against you directly.

Quote: "(I go there on rare occastions to see that, I program in FPS Creator)"


Don't take this the wrong way, as I am actually curious. Do you actually 'program' in FPS creator?(general question, not specifically aimed at you)


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