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Sharkie
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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 21:29 Edited at: 1st Apr 2008 23:24
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Well, i want to learn DarkBasic a little before i but Pro, but i have a few questions.

-On average, how long does it take. ( Guessing about 5 years 0

-Where are the best tutorials? (Video if possible)

I know its not just saying "Ohh ill learn it" I know i have to put alot of effort into it.

I am **, so i think it will give me a headstart beacause i want to work with games.

[Mod Edit] Age Removed (Against the AUP). TDK_Man
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Virtual X
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Learning DB PRO will depend on YOU, but, in all honesty, definately NOT 5 years to learn, your bang something out in an hour, nothing spectacular at first, but your achieve something.

At your age (although, NEVER reveal your age online for obvious reasons) it's best to start small and simple, so DB PRO will be ideal, it will help you to gain confidence in working with code and give you alot of enjoyment doing it!

In regards to the tutorials, hmmm.... not very informative for the absolute beginner, but you can use the codebase or just ask other people for help - hopefully they will get around to improving the tutorials.

If you haven't done so, download the DB PRO trial and have a bash at coding, see what you think!
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Posted: 1st Apr 2008 23:34 Edited at: 1st Apr 2008 23:39
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Quote: "how long does it take"


Without meaning to be insulting in any way, it depends on how bright you are. It's a language. How quickly do you think you would be able to learn French? Similar thing really.

If you learn properly, starting at the beginning you should be able to write very basic stuff in a few weeks. With the French analogy, this would be like learning it to a level just enough to get by on holiday.

Becoming fluent in French might take years - just like learning DB...

Quote: "Where are the best tutorials?"


You won't find many video tutorials - programming doesn't lend itself well to those. Try tutorials 1 to 4 here and see how you get on:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=99497&b=10

Quote: "I know its not just saying "Ohh ill learn it" I know i have to put alot of effort into it"


It's also important to learn things in the correct order and not just jump into writing a full 3D game straight away. Like when building a house, you need to know how to make bricks and then use them to form solid walls before you put the roof on - or the roof (and the house) will simply collapse before you finish it...

Good luck!

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Sharkie
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2008 13:51
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Well, thank you for the posts VERY helpful.

Just downloading the Pro now, and going to have a go at something simple. ( Well i am going to try and make Pong )

Sharkie.
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Sharkie
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2008 23:41 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2008 00:03
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I need a little help, well i have started to learn DarkBasic, but i can do VERY little.

I have downloaded a few models (.3ds) and i would like to know how to add them into my game, currently i have not started the game, but i am hoping to make a simple FPS.

Could anyone start me off, and tell me how to make my models any use?

And can this be the same with .max format?
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TDK
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Did you read any of what I said in my post?

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Libervurto
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as you are a noob stay away from 3D, you need to start making stuff, so start with "hello world" and climb the ladder.
There's no point sitting in the cockpit of a fighter jet if you can't fly.
I might sound a bit stern but if you stick to the basics you'll find that you'll be able to tackle new things as they come using the knowledge you've built up. If you don't have a solid grasp of the basics you'll keep hitting dead ends and give up on projects.

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Quote: "In regards to the tutorials, hmmm.... not very informative for the absolute beginner"


You have obviously not looked at all of them have you?

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2008 12:13 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2008 12:15
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Sharkie, have patience! go through each command in the index and learn what is does, play around with it and learn, you can't just start off writing a game.

TDK, the tutorials are not very good for the ABSOLUTE beginner, if they were we wouldn't be reading, 'How do I do this', 'How do I do that' every 5 minutes, if you go through what each command does, alot of the descriptions are less than useless for an ABSOLUTE beginner.
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Quote: "TDK, the tutorials are not very good for the ABSOLUTE beginner"


How so?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=96069&b=7&p=0

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Sharkie
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2008 23:19
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Hello, thanks for all the posts they were all brilliant.

And as for TDK, i did read your post, but i did not see that little last passage, anyway, going to go read the commands now.

Thanks.
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Libervurto
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glad to hear you are getting stuck in sharkey.
just remember that on here you are judged by your results; you'll gain much more respest through completing a 20-line program than starting a 1000-line one.
sorry for harping on but so many noobs fall by the wayside because they dive in at the deep end.

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Quote: ""TDK, the tutorials are not very good for the ABSOLUTE beginner""


I'd like to disagree. Had I not studied TDKs tutorials I wouldn't understand hardly anything about programming, especially with variables. His tutorials rock and are PERFECT for the beginner.


Thanks BigAdd!!
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dan958
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i never really had time to read his tut's, ive read his first 1 and thats it...maybe i should read them.
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When I started using DarkBASIC, TDK_Man had a MatEdit website(his matrix editor/terrain builder) with a bunch of programming tips and examples for DBC. I think I went through just about everything, and it really gave me a good handle on how to code with it. His tutorials here are a bit more expansive and detailed and I think they can put just about anyone in the driver's seat of DBC.

Enjoy your day.
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If someone, even an absolute beginner, makes a sincere effort to go through TDK's stuff with the desire to truly learn and still comes out without having a clue, then they ought to choose another hobby/profession IMO.

I think that sometimes, newbies want so much to produce a game that they halfway go through the tutorials and then are soon disappointed when their program fails to do what they want. Rather than admit that they didn't make the effort, it's easier and less harmful to one's pride to simply blame the tuts. In this case, though, TDK's stuff is first rate, and the argument lacks substance.

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