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Bizar Guy
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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 00:10 Edited at: 11th Apr 2008 00:21
Hey, I'm working on an 8 page graphic novel right now, and have been working a lot on my normal comics for the college newspaper. I though I'd post to see what people thought. I'll update this as I finish more comics, and post the graphic novel when it's finished.

As to MODslinger? we'll see what happens with that it already helped me enough that I can draw fairly decent in graphic novel format, so I'm not sure what I want to do with it. It's just too much work right now to try and keep that up on a weekly basis.


Here are some older comics in order,











And here's the new one. What do people think of it, and how much do I seem to be improving?



And for note, if the punchlines don't make sense, that might be because it's aimed at people going to my college.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 01:24
The new one looks way better, such as text and drawing. Good job!

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 01:37
Wow, I envy your art skills.


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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 02:38
Looks nice bizar, the first one is funny. The new-one is just as funny.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 02:42
It's over 9000!

I don't get the joke, yet I hear it all the time...well I'm sure it's for a specialized humour range as I'm completely oblivious to gaming and Anime humour.

Good artwork mate.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 02:58
lol at the Zelda one


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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 05:42
The last one is extremely good!


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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 11:00
I see that you slipped in the old it's over 9000 meme, very nice. I love the mona lisa one it reminds me of a story from a haunted mansion that i visited when I was younger.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 19:12
It's good to know you're still doing comics. I didn't find these ones funny, but I'm guessing others will.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2008 19:52
Nice sig Pus In Boots.


I've read all the comics from your website already, great stuff!

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It's OVER 9000!!
WHAT 9000!?



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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 04:12
I'm glad to hear people like the new one.

And thanks to those of you who've read the ones on my site. That give a fair idea of how I've developed since I started inking my comics.

I'll have a new comic thursday or friday, and the graphic novel will be done about a week from now. I'm really exited about it; it's part one of a graphic novel, 8 pages long. The second part is 14 pages, but I didn't have time to do both for my final project in Drawing II. The pages that I've got all penciled look really good I think.

Been having some trouble in my computer art class, all my data for the class was on my 2 gig usb, and all of a sudden it decided it wasn't formatted, and wont recognize any of the data on it. Obviously I'm not about to format it and lose all my data for the class, including my final project with is a borderless artwork, which is a version of the Sanctuary from Dream that you print out and fold into the tower. It's the most complex one he's ever gotten in the class, and I'd just gotten all the dimensions right and printed out and folded a version without any images on it. The amount of time that went into just getting the shape on the computer in illustrator was HUGE (and then putting into Photoshop for the image work), so I'm hoping he can help me find a way to get the data off the usb drive. Once I do that, I could care less if I have to reformat it, everything else exists elsewhere.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 13:10
Dont you have the stuff on the drive on your computer? You could format it and then add in the new data.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 04:48
If I did, I'd be smart, wouldn't I?

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 04:53
...You're confusing me. Which isn't hard to do.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 05:25
it was all on the usb only, unlike my games, which are all backed up in four seperate locations.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 13:09
Okay, I gots it. Thanks.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 05:25 Edited at: 21st Apr 2008 09:44
New comic, and the Graphic Novel's getting close to done.



Edit: You can tell I put less wor into this one on the art- that's cause of the graphic novel.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 12:58
Sweet artwork. Post its.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 14:30
Haha, nice!


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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 16:07
Your Kamehamaha (sp?) and the post-it one have to be my favorites so far. Nice work dude, your work is definitely improving. I mean even though you put less work into the post-it one, it's still quality work.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 21:16 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2008 05:16
That everyone!

Now, for the biggie:

PART ONE OF A GRAPHIC NOVEL:
note: The full size is 22-23 pages, which I did not have time to do as a final project. Even so, the story is essentially a metaphor, and this whole thing is about the making a graphic novel, rather than the great story. I'm holding off on my big stories until I've got the skill and style I'm aiming for. In them I plan to have a refined high contrast lighting and focus on background at least for the first one. I plan to start the first of those next year or sometime after the summer.

Edit: Due to time copntraints, two pages are missing: The first is the first page, which is just a full page of him dead with a hole in his chest in her arms, in the town center with clouds overhead. There is red blood comming out of him. She thinks, "How did this happen?"













Edit: and the other missing page of part 1 is the last page, which shows an absolutely massive one of the ink brush things looking down into the valley with the town.

So, what do people think as a first real format graphic novel? On the creation note, this was one of the hardest drawing projects I've taken on, because of the time I had and the number of steps and human figures.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 22:04
That was awesome Lol is this kind of inspired from Kingdom Hearts ?

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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 22:41
Abstract. But very cool.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2008 03:26 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2008 03:29
I'm not a fan of the art--- the perspective of the people's bodies seem a little messed sometimes, and the story is a bit cliche, but it's creative all the same.

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Also I'd have someone edit some of the text as there are some grammatical errors (i.e. "stocking" instead of "stalking")


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Posted: 22nd Apr 2008 20:11
pretty cool. I know I could never draw that well.

...but I am the ferret king!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! tremble before my ferret minions!

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 06:47
Some perspective issues and I noticed 'stocking' instead of 'stalking' as well. Besides that, pretty cool!


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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 17:38
Thanks everyone for replying!

Quote: "That was awesome Lol is this kind of inspired from Kingdom Hearts ?"

Nope, I've never played it. This is a fairly generic opening though.

Quote: "Abstract. But very cool. "

Yep, I like abstract stuff. Those black things are made from ink brush.

Quote: "I'm not a fan of the art--- the perspective of the people's bodies seem a little messed sometimes, and the story is a bit cliche, but it's creative all the same."

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No, but I seriously get what you mean about the bodies being messed up somethimes, that's why I need this sort of practice. This is the first time I've drawn over 70 human figures in a comic, and in less than two weeks, no less (mostly in one weekend, and I mean EVERY HOUR of one weekend). And could you point out the places where you find the perspective most strange? I'm curious to see if you found the same places as me. And yeah, the story of part one is quite generic. Part two is an interesting metaphor, but I'm sure some sort of variation of it has already been done. I might make part two, as this as a whole is sort of a redoal of Trimotion, a 16 page comic I got 4 pages into, and I'd like to finish it. I want to try a funny story before I get into something as dark and serious and part two though. I might make the first arc of MODslinger into a short graphic novel- like say 19 pages, standard for stuff like manga.

oh, and
Quote: "Also I'd have someone edit some of the text as there are some grammatical errors (i.e. "stocking" instead of "stalking")"

That was fixed immediately after posting this. I basically show these to everybody I know, and I usually have someone check my text as I know how bad I am at spelling. It's just I was at the deadline for presenting, and I didn't have time for anything but a Microsoft word check. I suppose I'll upload the finished version of part one with the first and last pages when those are done.
I already did some color changes as well; as his hair and the umbrella are too dark (they were lighter in photoshop!!!).

Quote: "pretty cool. I know I could never draw that well."

Thanks! Though if you put about as much time into drawing as I did, you probably could. That's my philosophy, if you put enough effort into something, you’re bound to get good at it, even if you have no talent for said thing in the first place.

Quote: "Some perspective issues and I noticed 'stocking' instead of 'stalking' as well. Besides that, pretty cool!"

Like Jeku, could you point out where the perspective is strange? The main panel I know for certain is the last one, and I'd just been drawing so long at that point, I settled for making the bodies look like they were fairly in the right spot instead of getting the perspective right. I also drew that single panel on a table, where the rest were drawn on an easel, which after doing it that way, I can't imagine trying to do a full page like these on a desk anymore.

So did anyone notice the compositional work? That's the biggest part of the comic. Each panel, page, and the whole thing should end up as a [pretty solid composition. I was pretty careful to control the flow of time, too.

So peeps, here’s the plan I came up with 3 minutes ago: I'll draw the first arc of MODslinger as a chapter size comic or so, using a bunch of tricks I learned to make the time in the comic not feel rushed. Then I'll do the second part of this comic. After that I'll either do one more test comic to get my bearings, or I'll decide I'm ready for my main story and draw A Wanderer Comes, the first story I plan to tell in Fabel Nux.

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Quote: "pretty cool. I know I could never draw that well."
Thanks! Though if you put about as much time into drawing as I did, you probably could. That's my philosophy, if you put enough effort into something, you’re bound to get good at it, even if you have no talent for said thing in the first place."


Thanks, but no. I absolutely fail at drawing. I once spent two days on a single anime-ish elf-guy. it came out horrible. If I can find it and scan it, I'll show you if you want.

...but I am the ferret king!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! tremble before my ferret minions!

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Quote: "Thanks, but no. I absolutely fail at drawing. I once spent two days on a single anime-ish elf-guy. it came out horrible. If I can find it and scan it, I'll show you if you want."

I've put about 8-9 years into drawing, comics, as I started when I was 10. I'm sure if you put that much time into it, you'll get pretty good.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 19:20
Really, REALLY good! Drawing all those people, just thinking about it makes my hands hurt.



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I've been trying to draw all my life, and I never get any better at it. I've taken multiple drawing and art classes, and I still stink. I believe that you are either born with the ability to LEARN to draw or you are not. I was NOT born with the ability to learn how to draw.

...but I am the ferret king!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! tremble before my ferret minions!

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Quote: "Nope, I've never played it. This is a fairly generic opening though."

Well the opening was reaaally diffrent.. But the Monsters are like heartless in Kingdom Hearts.. Also the girls weapon could be like Umbrella version of Keyblade lol..

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Quote: "Really, REALLY good! Drawing all those people, just thinking about it makes my hands hurt. "

YES! That's it exactly. I'm trying to become adjusted to drawing lots of people for long periods of time, and well, it's hard. Probably on of the hardest things I've ever had to do in drawing.

@ Omega gamer 89, sorry to hear that... well at least no one can say you didn't try.

Quote: "Well the opening was reaaally diffrent.. But the Monsters are like heartless in Kingdom Hearts.. Also the girls weapon could be like Umbrella version of Keyblade lol.."

Think more FLCL for inspiration... in everything I do

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 06:41 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 06:57
Two new comics:





These are getting pretty easy to draw. I think I could start a regular web comic with these sorts if jokes keep coming to me this fast. Oh, and I'm figuring out how to photoshop these all nice and good. I think I can to the coloring I want to now. I'll do a big sketch of Aven and try that,

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 10:46
Alright, here the Aven pic. This is the sort of coloring I'm aiming for, with faded colors and not drawn quite withing the lines, and skin color the same as the background usually. This is also drawn closer to how I intend to have all my figures look.



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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 16:51
Not sure but the hands looks quite odd.. Perhaps too long?

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Ok now I can put my finger on one of the things that I don't like about the style. There's too many "ruffles" and jaggies in the clothing. Know what I mean? In the last sketch his shirt and shorts have so many angles, makes everything look so scruffy. Maybe he has baggy clothes? But all the characters seem to have this.

In your story comic the frame where the girl says hi to him in the hallway, look at his pants. Maybe the term I'm looking for is "over-sketched"? I do the exact same thing sometimes with my drawings.


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Quote: "Not sure but the hands looks quite odd.. Perhaps too long?"

Yeah, it will be a while before my proportions are completely prefect, especially the hands.

@Jeku,
I know what you mean, I could go fo making his clothes more stylistic and angled, but I like having ruffles. I'll do another Aven drawing with slightly less ruffled clothes, mainly the jacket. I don't mean I'm going to have that many less folds in the clothes so much as make them less baggy. I prefer cloth that isn't just solid.

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Posted: 26th Apr 2008 21:06
Looks BRILL!
Keep it up

Quote: "Not sure but the hands looks quite odd.. Perhaps too long?"


I cant even draw them...
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Posted: 27th Apr 2008 22:06
I've packed up my scanner, So no new pics until around may 8-10th when I get home.

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Borrowed a friends scanner:



I've worked on the cloth with some reference material, and did some cross thatching, as I want to get better at that. I know the right eye is kind of wacky, but besides that- what do people think?

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Posted: 30th Apr 2008 10:49 Edited at: 30th Apr 2008 10:54
Oh yes, and here's a Charcoal of Aven I did for a figure class as the final 2 hour drawing of the year. We had a female model, and I decided to draw Aven in her pose instead.



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Whoa, nice!


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Woah, fantastic.
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Posted: 1st May 2008 08:03 Edited at: 1st May 2008 08:04
If you're interested in which one took longer, it was the ink.

Believe it or not, ink is much harder than charcoal. I mean, charcoal is easy to work with and is very forgiving. Ink on the other hand has like 3-4 steps of drawing in it (For detailed stuff like this I laterally draw the final out in pencil completely before inking it, and all that is after setting up the composition of the figure, building the skeleton, and adding a body over that where there's significant muscle mass), has little reference, and the only way to get rid of a mistake in the inking itself before the computer work is white out, which doesn't draw over well.

Edit: so just to understand, I really like ink to work in it this way.

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