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Geek Culture / Domestic Violence charges on a minor.

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Xarshi
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Posted: 13th Apr 2008 20:38
He did fill out a police report with everything in it. He probably mistook what he was being charged with ( which only mentioned that he attacked his brother ) with the actual police report ( which probably had everything on it? ).

So you are saying the knife wasn't justifiable?

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Nemesis_0_
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Posted: 13th Apr 2008 21:09
Nope it wasn't justifiable, at least in the eyes of the law which is why he is being charged. Tell him to plead not guilty and then a jury will get to decide... that's his best chance at getting off.
Xarshi
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Posted: 13th Apr 2008 21:27
Hah, thats kinda annoying to me. Because if someone was on top of me beating the living hell out of me, and I couldn't get them off, according to the law I'd just have to take it. But ok, I'll tell him that.

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 13th Apr 2008 21:40
Quote: "according to the law I'd just have to take it"


Makes you right proud of your country doesn't it

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Xarshi
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Posted: 13th Apr 2008 22:09
Haha, his brother dan is like a body builder. He'd probably end up killing them if he hit 'em.

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Nemesis_0_
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 00:54
Its not that you have to take it, you can fight back... just not with a knife...
Xarshi
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 01:17
Haha, yes, but again, his brother was bigger and stronger. He tried to fight back.

Also note, his brother was diagnosed with multiple mental illnesses and was on medication for them for a bit. I don't really remember all of them, but I know that one was depression and another was bipolar disorder. I remember when he was diagnosed with all those because ben had to run to my house one day to get away from him ( his brother had almost killed him ).

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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 03:37
Man... That sounds like a messed up family. I feel bad for them.

Xarshi
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 03:43
It kinda is a messed up family. His dad was also diagnosed with mental illnesses and left when ben was seven, after almost killing his mom. Then just recently his stepdad was hospitalized and almost died from heart problems. The kid oddly enough stays happy most of the time, which I don't know how.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 03:47 Edited at: 14th Apr 2008 04:54
Tell him to buy a whole bunch of tacs and mouse traps and place them on the floor where his bros bed is, REVENGE.


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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 03:50
Quote: "Tell him to buy a whole bunch of tacs and mouse traps and place them on the floor where his bros bed is, REVENGE."

I don't think that was really called for.


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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 04:22
his brother is a complete dick
A for beating on his brother
B for lying in a f***ing police statement
neither would probably had any sentence (maybe domestic disturbance) but lying will get you a big bitch-slap for obstructing the course of justice or whatever they call it.
i dont know i'm not Perry Mason! :p

Xarshi
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 04:47
Haha, wow, the mouse trap things would be brutal.

And yes, his brother is a dick. I've known that for a couple years. Plus his brother is weird as hell, like, you'll hear him talking to himself in his room and pacing around and what not. Quite scary.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 04:51 Edited at: 14th Apr 2008 04:54
From what it sounds he deserves it, something to bring him to his senses.


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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 04:59 Edited at: 14th Apr 2008 04:59
I don't know if anyone deserves that, lol.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 05:47
Bipolar and depression are one of those flavor of the month diagnoses lol
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 10:17
Future advice for your friend, don't get in the way of his brother - yes his brother had something illegal which he should have, but for future reference it may not be worth letting him snap over.

Getting in an argument with a person with a mental illness isn't the wisest of things, even if they're nice - my brother suffered childhood trauma on the account of an abusive teacher, so when he loses his temper he can't control himself and it doesn't help that he has never had a particularly long temper. I almost got in a fight with him myself, luckily for me I'm a martial artist and put him off - but he's still a lovely bloke, just don't get on the wrong side of him, sometimes it's inevitable that you will - but handle yourself differently.

Of course on the other note, 'I have mental illness' still isn't an excuse to kick the crap out of somebody, you can't control your flips but you can control your temper, which trigger the flips - by the time you're an adult you should be mature enough to understand that you need to deal with your problem. Of course if it is something you can't control, he needs medication or treatment. My uncle has schizophrenia (after many years of drug abuse) he has to take medication, why? Well when he's set loose he can be violent, attacked my Nan once and has been subject to arresting - luckily my Nan didn't press charges, instead just got a restraining order put on him - he should have taken his medication.

The fact his brother does drugs (it was a bong he was trying to get?) and has a mental illness, I really think should be considered and brought forth to the police, because A: Mental Illness + Drugs = bad idea B: Drugs are illegal. So I think it would be wise for the coppers to take him into rehab and perhaps (if the brother hasn't already) advise on a psychiatrist or mental evaluation - if he isn't mentally fit for society, well do what they've done with my uncle on different occasions, take him to a mental asylum until he is mentally fit enough to walk among the sane.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 22:05
His brother had to spend three months at a rehabilitation institute, and had to get psychiatric care multiple times. Clearly nothing has really helped, but I believe that ben will bring up all of the problems with his brother and why he had to defend himself. One of his other friends actually had been run over to his house after nearly being killed by his brother, which, btw, his mom brushed off like it was nothing. I only know because I was at that friends house.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 22:14
Sounds like a real family problem, the police should become aware of ALL the domestic problems. The mother sounds like she's in denial, as you said she was a victim of it herself, that tends to be the usual response when they're abused (my flatmate's best friend, she is going out with a brutal git, yet she passes off as though it's nothing and continues to stick with him, despite leaving him several times). The mother needs help, the brother(s) need their heads re-examined and the whole bloody family needs counseling and this is a perfect opportunity as the judge or police can enforce it. And I think that's pretty much imperative and make 'fixing' the problem one of the good things to come out of this - even if it means your friend going to Jail for 6 months. (At least if he does and when he comes out, he'll be come out to a fixed family or a family on the road to improvement)

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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 22:21
Sounds like the family is nuts and the only sane one is the original benny...I feel so sorry for benny, he had a good GDK physics wrapper.
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Posted: 14th Apr 2008 22:38
Indeed.

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