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Geek Culture / Final Fantasy - where to start?

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Michael P
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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 00:49
I'm thinking of buying final fantasy and I was wondering, which one is the best to start off with?
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4, 9, 12, Tactics, 3, 10, 7, 6, 5, Tactics Advance, 12: Revenant Wings, 10-2, 8, 1, 2, Crystal Chronicles

From best to worst in my opinion.
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Crystal Chronicles and 3 are the only 2 I've actually enjoyed playing.


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Quote: "4, 9, 12, Tactics, 3, 10, 7, 6, 5, Tactics Advance, 12: Revenant Wings, 10-2, 8, 1, 2, Crystal Chronicles"


You forgot Mystic Quest!


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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 01:05 Edited at: 15th Apr 2008 01:06
Each one have a separate story, unless you get one with the same number, they are kinda like expansions. FF6 is pretty good if 2D is alright (for SNES). FF7 is the one everyone's talking about, it's in 3D and available on PC and PS; it fries my laptop so I've not played it much yet. FFX for PS2 is nice but I got fed up with the random battles. FFXII got bored pretty fast as you just configure their AI and watch them battle; started out looking like single player WOW but turned out to be sort of watching a linear movie. Not played the rest myself.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 01:13
TACTICS is definately the best. best of the best. Then comes #7. I still play tactics. Played it a couple of days ago, actually. Lv.99 and feeling fine.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 01:22 Edited at: 15th Apr 2008 01:30
I'd go for 7, I have it for PSX and think it's top notch.

If you do go for it you'll either enjoy it and be like 'so that was what all the fuss was about' or dislike and be like 'so what was all the fuss about?'

You've got to give it time to get the best out of it but I personally think it was great. As much for the game as for the memories it brings back of when I first played it. That menu music puts a grin on my face every time.

Although my opinion might not count for much considering I still haven't gotten to the end of disc 1 (there's 3).

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Yeah, It felt like I played forever, but 'twas only on disk 2. Then I got stuck.

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Play FF6 or Kefka will kill you. Because he hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hates it when people don't play his games. In fact, he hates it when people do play his games. He hates everyone. *attaches Kefka's laugh to post*

Either that, or play FFX. It feels very aimed at new people.

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Lol you actually attached the laugh

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 03:31
7... its what got me into it...
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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 05:11 Edited at: 15th Apr 2008 05:20
9 first, because if your not up on the final fantasy universe it really brings the franchise back to it's roots. 9 is actually the creators favorite.

Then 7 or 8 (make sure you play both). They are both amazing and memorable and will have you in a fanboy state in no time.

Then 10 or Mystic Quest, but make sure to play both as well. 10 is the one you can make fun of the most, because Tidus is a little whiny B, but it's still important and fun... minus the sphere grid

I've never played any of the Gamecube or Handheld versions so I can't help you there.

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This site is incredibly amazing. Their tribute and retrospective of the series so far is superb and it almost brang fanboy tears to my eyes watching them all. Good stuff.

Don't freak when you read the description for part XIII and it says the final part of the series. They don't mean the FF series, they mean their retrospective video series. They obviously can't continue because 14 hasn't been mentioned yet all, and won't be for a while.

EDIT: And never play 10-2, as much as the hot versions of the characters call to you. If ever someone tells you to play it, yell blasphemy and brand them a FF noob. The only reason to own it, is to say you have it for collectors sake.

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Forum went all buggy on me, double post.

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So far I haven't liked any of the ones I've bought, 3 on the DS, and 6 on the gba.

Going to be trying 7, 9, maybe 4, and maybe the new wii crystal chronicles. I'd love to try 12 just because the art style is so awesome.

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Oh yea, I forget about 12. Yes play 12 too.

I didn't finish 12 though. I became a bit busy with school and such and I forgot the storyline so I never had a chance to pick it up back up again. But it is very good, and the new battle system is genius IMHO.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 08:40
12 is not good IMO its really MMOish and thats not the way how Offline Final Fantasy should be.

I suggest starting of with (Comes in best order)

1. X (10) - Really easy if we dont include Dark Aeons
2. IX (9) - First FF i beated and had fun
3. VII (7) - Has really cool story and also its bit easy if i say.
4. VIII (8) - Handicap Monsters and Junction system makes this bit harder. My Favorite.

Then comes the Old final fantasys wich are HARD with capital H. I mean they are really hard and good FF's even they dont have those leet Visuals (Well they had on that time)

Also i dint include XII (12) because you would die in boredom IMO But if you like MMOs i suggest getting XI (11)

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 09:02
ff7 is the first one i have played and it was awesome and epic.
ff6 is also really cool. never finished it but enjoyed while it lasted, i wish i could play the psx version of ff6 over the snes
ff8 is a love story (most people i know, don't like it)

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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 09:34
Also: Do all/any of the FF include multiplayer so on the PS I can play along the story line with a friend using 2 controllers?
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Posted: 15th Apr 2008 10:21
FF isn't multiplayer, though Final Fantasy XI is an MMORPG, so that the only multiplayer you can get.

Final Fantasy VI, VII, VIII and IX were the best in my opinion, very strong plotline, fun to play and always had something there to keep you going. They were also quite stylistic. VII being my all time favourite (Though people say it's over rated, but I love it).

The ones before VI are also very good, not my favourites, but are good 2D classics to play with once you get into them.

Final Fantasy X is good, a good take on for the PS2, new great game play features and it was great fun, though they removed their 'I can walk on the world map' feature. It still follows the same sort of thing as the previous.

Final Fantasy X-2 - keep away from the game, it is horrible - it's what my friend has label 'softcore', it pretty much contists of 3 tarts chasing around in skimpy clothes and not being any good. More or less annoying.

Final Fantasy XI - Not played it, I hear it's very good. It's an MMORPG

Final Fantasy XII - Where's Darth Vader when you need him? The plotline very conveniently manages to mimic Star Wars. New game play, quite cool, interesting characters and ideas and it seemed to imitate the MMORPG style (to make up for those who didn't want to pay monthly for FFXI)though being single player. The annoyance with was - Yey! Plot, interesting stuff, it's going along, great, now my characters are too weak, 3 hours of training, yay, continue plot, nice boss, good bit of fun, damn character now too weak, 3 hours of training them...47hours into the game and I still don't feel very far.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - something a bit different, a bit more medieval and childish, but good fun never the less - you have a less turn based game play and you can have up to 4 players, so that's always good.

Final Fantasy: Tactics

Great game, but the only interaction is the battles and the gameplay for that is well...you have got to set out the tactics for them in order to fight and win. Good fun, plot is also good, as it was made during the time Square had hotpot of great ideas.

Final Fantasy: Tactics Advanced

Like the above, but for the Gameboy Advanced - good fun completely different plot, and more childish.


There are still many other Final Fantasys out there, I'd love to talk about them all in depth, but that should be a good starting point.

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I've played the DS versions of 4 and Tactics, 4 is awesome and IMO it has the best final fantasy plot. I'm surprised the ds remake so far is sticking close to the original.

A2 Tactics was aweful and plain stupid. There are laws in place which is fine, and instead of sending characters to jail you get rewards at the end for not breaking laws which is good, except if the ENEMY breaks the law you get nothing. Also there are some of the most stupid laws since... ever. One law was for example not to critical hit... Something you can't control, Its rubbish.

Anyway they are not translated yet so it is still a long long while before it comes out in english.

The PSP version of Tactics is good, also they have released I and II for the PSP with slightly better graphics. 7 was brilliant, I never got into 8 that much but 9 I thought was quite bad, but to be honest I didn't get too far in it.
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DS tactics isn't good. The ps1 tactics was amazing.

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I would go 7, 8, 12, 10, and 10-2 in the waaaaaay back.. (The ones I played, beat all but 8, disks stopped working, but from what I played, it is good.) 10 was alright, but not a sturdy story. X-2 was like a chick flick in a game form. 7 I loved. (May seem clichéd now, but was top notch in September 1997) I played tactics when I was like, 8-9, did not understand it, so I cannot make an opinion.

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Quote: "Also: Do all/any of the FF include multiplayer so on the PS I can play along the story line with a friend using 2 controllers?"


Yes. FFIX has a two player mode that lets two controllers control different characters in battles. So if you want to play with two people you can set certain characters to be controlled with the 1st or 2nd controller.
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Quote: "Yes. FFIX has a two player mode that lets two controllers control different characters in battles. So if you want to play with two people you can set certain characters to be controlled with the 1st or 2nd controller."


Yes thats true But its kinda lame tho. But good if friend wants to play battles too.

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FINAL FANTASY 7 rulez!!!! Still in style. Really bad graphics. Maybe the first 3d ones, but...STILL AWESOME! They are making a remake for the ps3 though since everyone love it so much...


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Quote: "They are making a remake for the ps3"


Are you referring to the old movie made for the announcement of PS3 or something new?

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There is no remake.. SE Have told everyone like 100th times now.

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Unless there's something new. But yeah, that's the official statement after the reaction to the FF7 movie shown during the PS3 announcement like 2 years ago (or is it 3 now?).

I would not be surprised though if they did a PS3 remake using the new engine considering it is their most successful game in the series with a movie and the extra games. There are a lot of fans out there who would buy it and play it through at least one more time and I bet there are a lot of new fans who have not played it. The are also remaking the older games for DS. I bet FF7 remake would be a hit and if I were Sony I would pay them for it. But first we have to wait for FF13 and see if it lives up to the screenshots

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There were many fans askind FFVII remake for DS but answer they got "Its all about timing" That means they are just too busy with other projects.. Mainly XIII series.

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I saw advent children (the FF7 movie). There were sweet battles, but other that that it was confusing. They had motorcycles and cellphones but used swords?

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Play the game and you understand more FF7

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Quote: "They are making a remake for the ps3 though since everyone love it so much..."


Are you maybe reffering to FF7 crisis core? cause thats for PSP.

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/crisiscorefinalfantasyvii/index.html

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Omega:
That looks cool, wish I had a PSP...

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Yeah, its gonna rock! It'll finally add some value to the PSP as a gaming device. There really aren't many good games for PSP right now.

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Quote: "There really aren't many good games for PSP right now."


Not internationally, but in asia (mainly japan), there are great games. I've played a few, though I don't know alot of japanese (still learning) and some are out of this world, I guess there more targeted at the asian market.

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