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Geek Culture / The Hardest from Final Fantasy

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Sasuke
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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 06:29 Edited at: 18th Apr 2008 06:32
I've played every final fantasy game(completed every one 100%, and have done every challenge(low level, no sphere grid etc...), except FFXI), and have come across some hard stuff in my time. Here are some of them: [Small Spoilers]

Final Fantasy 3 - Iron Giant

This was hard, really hard. Without being level 99 and the best equipment, give up. He attacks like 4 times in a row.


Final Fantasy 5 - Shinryuu

Man this thing could nearly kill your whole party in one at the start of the battle. It's easy if you manage to have coral rings, but without, you are going to have a fun time.


Final Fantasy 7 - The Ultimate Save

Now this was ridicules, it was a dare by my dad. He would buy me a TV if I complete it knowing that there’s no way I could do it, well I proved him wrong, here’s what you need for the Ultimate save:

(I'm quoting a FAQ cause I can't remember all of this)
- (Being able to) Beat the game
- Have Yuffie & Vincent
- All Characters Lvl 99
- Have All Ultimate Weapons/Ultimate Limit Breaks
- Have a Gold Chocobo
- Have at least 1 of each Materia Mastered, including Master Materia's
- This includes 4 Enemy Skill Materia's with ALL Skills
- All Side Quests done
- (Being able to) beat Emerald & Ruby
- Max Stats for all characters
- Gotten 'All Treasure' in the game
- All Key Items possible
- At least 1 of each item in the game
- Cleared the Gold Saucer
- Have Max GP (10000)
- Have the Max for every item in the game (99 in most cases)
- Have 0 escapes
- Have a 'Perfect Chocobo
- Max out Barret's Natural HP to 9999
- Max out all character's their natural HP/MP
- Do everything without the W-Item Trick
- Max out experience and gil
- Max out Vincent's kills for Death Penalty (Near to impossible)
It would take at least 200 hours to do this btw.

Do you think I have a life, well I do now with my brand new TV.


Final Fantasy 8 - Ultima Weapon

I wasn't expecting it to be that hard so I tried early, boy was I wrong. Ultima Weapon is extremely fast, properly the fastest thing in the game, but once you train up a bit it's easy. Just didn't know that at the time.


Final Fantasy 8 - Omega Weapon

Now this thing was solid not to mention it has like over 1 million life. This thing just kept chucking stuff at you, and basically you just need to max every character and get the best items in the game by playing card games and converting them into tons of great items(in this case, Megalixirs), and man, what a lot of card game you’re going to have to play.


Final Fantasy 8 - The Final Chapter

The castle was hard, if you just an ordinary player then you never expected all your abilities to be taken away from you (except attack), then having to fight bosses to gain them again.


Final Fantasy 8 - The Last Boss(es)

This has got to be the longest and hardest last boss in Final Fantasy history. To start off, when you start the battle, you will have a random party, which means all party members need to be up to scratch and equipped evenly. You then have an onslaught of battles from there on. The last part is the best, the final form will use Judgement Day which send your who party to 1 HP, if you don't take notice of this, prepare to lose your life’s. But when it comes to it, Judgement Day is more of an advantage than a curse and i'll leave it at that.


Final Fantasy 9 - Yan Training

They are and ordinary monster found on an island (Vile Island). Each battle is life-threatening, they tend to get two attacks to your one and most of their attacks will wipe you out, they have to be one of the hardest non-bosses ever in a final fantasy game.


Final Fantasy 9 - Ozma

This thing is hard, insanely hard, I think this battle is mainly luck. Much easier to do on the low level challenge, cause most of its attacks work off your stats.


Final Fantasy 10 - Dark Aeons

Now the first Dark Aeons I stumbled on was Ifrit, my characters had what I though at the time great weapons and stats. All characters HP at 9999. I got the first strike and took 0 HP out of him, what the hell, is he guarded against attacks or something. Then he attacked, there nothing like seeing 99999 flash in front of your player for the first time and seeing a 5 digit damage figure. So the training began and I stumbled on Bahamut who’s even stronger. I quit I said to myself, but no this game can't beat me, so I powered on. Found the best equipment, got all stats max and all character to 99,999 HP. From here on you have to fight every aeon you've picked up and they all get harder as they go on. Let the fun begin.


Final Fantasy 10 - Penance

Penance is the result of defeating all the dark aeons and there’s a hugh difference between the strongest dark aeons and Penance(12,000,000 HP). You’re going to die a lot until you get a technique down.


Final Fantasy 12 - Omega Mark XII

You’re in for a lot of pain, Omega takes a lot of damage in one attack, and that’s the only attack (though there’s a chance of getting inflicted with berserk). This comes down to right stats and right technique cause there’s no other way to beat it. We were lucky that we only got the 1 million HP version and not the japanese 10 million HP.


Final Fantasy 12 - Yiazmat

50 million HP... Wow, this kills FFX's Penance by 38 million HP. It's not like you have break damage limit ether. The real hard part about this fight is the when Yiazmat get down to 10 mill, then the buffs and status magic start making an appearance. Not to mention it will take nearly 3 hours (2:19 for me) to beat him. Can't wait to see what they come up with in FFXIII and FF Versus XIII.


Final Fantasy 12 - Zodiark

This has to be the hardest boss in FFXII, without the right equipment and top level magic, don't even bother. The only other way to win is to constantly attack and deploy a fully charged Dark Matter.

There are few of my fav's, anyone got any to add or what did you think about some of them?
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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 07:18
I've played through most Final Fantasies, but now that I read this I'm thinking... It might be fun to play through them all again just to accomplish everything. Hmm. I'll probably start with FFVIII, as it's my favorite lol... As for FFX, The Dark Aeons were a bit of a trouble, since I made sure to grab all of them, and leveled them up pretty high.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 08:34
Ozma was easy. I think it weakened when you did those friendly fiends.

I think hardest Final Fantasy is XI But its a MMO so what you get
The hardest enemy in that game is Absolute Virtue.. Onle killed twice (And those were when there was a bug how to kill it easily) After SE fixed that noone has killed it expect Square Enix team (They even made video of them killing it!).

Oh and Final Fantasy 8 had absolutly fabolous final boss Enough hard where other finals depend to have easy final boss.

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Super Nova
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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 09:53
I never completed any final fantasy 100% but I got close with ff7. I remember Ruby weapon being insanely hard tho because my characters were not even to level 80 yet.

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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 12:56
Final fantasy games always have these random super hard bosses. The only one I completed all the way through is tactics (six or so times), I'm awesome at that.

Preston C
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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 19:15 Edited at: 18th Apr 2008 19:28
Go ahead and claim all of your hardest moments of your offline Final Fantasies. None compare to attempting to beat the FFXI expansion Chains of Promathia...

...with pickup groups.

Also:
Quote: "I think hardest Final Fantasy is XI But its a MMO so what you get
The hardest enemy in that game is Absolute Virtue.. Onle killed twice (And those were when there was a bug how to kill it easily) After SE fixed that noone has killed it expect Square Enix team (They even made video of them killing it!)."


I remember the original attempt by an American Linkshell. It went on for nearly 24 hours before they gave up. They got it to a sliver of health, upon which it used Benediction. A few hours later it broke them. They called for help, and hundreds of players watching the fight descended upon it, only to get utterly destroyed.

The first time they killed it, they found out it had a targeting bug, where it couldn't cast spells over a specific wall, and they just spammed spells on it from across a wall, which did it in. SE declared it a glitch, though, and fixed the bug.

They eventually found out how to beat it, it required the use of specific classes using the weapons dropped by the previous Sea bosses in order to disable the use of that specific class 2-HR. So a monk using the Sea Claws would disable Absolute Virtues Hundred Fists, a warrior using the sea warrior weapon would disable Absolute Virtues Mighty Strikes, a white Mage and the sea staff would disable Benediction, etc.

The worst bit about it is the fact that getting to Absolute Virtue is simply luck. You would have to beat one Sea god, who only had a small chance to drop the item which would spawn the next god. It would continue like that, until you beat Jailer of Love (I think that was its name). Immediately after Jailer of Love dies, Absolute Virtue spawns (without aggro, luckily, so you got a chance to rest).

Yet if you're not ready, it despawns after so long. So if you take too long to prepare, you have to start over from the beginning.

For an offline Final Fantasy, the first fight against the dual assassins in Final Fantasy Tactics would have to be the hardest, where the assassins could literally disable anyone with one, near infinite range, skill, and you lose the fight if one guest falls in battle.

I trained up a Calculator after that one. Made everything incredibly easy afterwards.

You know, their ability to light an entire map on fire with flare, with no MP cost



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My first encounter with challenge bosses was on Final Fantasy 5, Omega and Shinryuu, and boy was I in for a surprise, my party was instantly decimated even before I could input a command. Anyway here's my experience with these two powerhouses.

I found Omega easier, simply because he was nearer a save point, so everytime I lose to him I still have the momentum from the previous battle.

Omega is very fast, he also absorbs holy element, rendering powerful weapons like Excalibur and Holy lance useless against him, his defence is so high that most weapons would do 0 damage to him, including the hp absorbing blood sword I kept on using. He is also protected by a wall which reflects spells casted on him. He is supposedly weak against lightning, but if you do bypass the spell wall and cast lightning on him he'll just absorb it! His primary moves include a powerful earthquake strong enough kill the entire party with one attack, and a strong heat beam, but his most devastating attack is surge beam which inflicts incredible damage and constantly and rapidly reduces hp like poison. He can also petrify, confuse and instantly remove a character from the party, but he rarely uses them.

To beat him I equipped the entire party with flame rings to absorb his heat beam, and cast float on them before the battle to make them immune to earthquake. I equipped the main character with the brave blade which has 150 attack and had him hold it with both hands, then I spammed Omega with x-fight, while the rest of the party constantly casted Cure3 and shell to weaken damage form his surge beam. He would sometimes remove the main character form battle, when that happens I have another character x-fight him with the Masamune, though it usually proves futile so I just fight him all over again by using either using the reset spell or resetting the game.

My battle against Shinryuu was a total mess, I don't even remember exactly how I beat him. His primary attack is tidal wave which, like Omega's earthquake, can kill the entire with one hit. His other attacks include a snowstorm, a heat beam like Omega's, a powerful lightning3 and various status inflicting attacks like "old" and "zombify". He also has a roulette which randomly kill a character instantly.

Since he has tidal wave I equipped everyone in the party with coral rings, since they were instrumental in my win against Leviathan who also uses tidal wave. Shinryuu is a dragon so he is weak against Dragon lances, which can be stolen from crystal dragons, but they were pretty hard to find and steal from while keeping the party alive, so I only got, if I remember correctly, just one dragon lance. So once again I spammed x-fight on him, I was pretty confident that the coral rings would keep the party alive, until he casted Lightning3 and killed everybody. So I tried again and defeated him on the 2nd try, with 2 casualties though, mostly because of his roulette

Later on I found out that Omega's lightning weakness can be utilised by using a lightning3 magic sword, he is also susceptible to "stop". On the other hand Shinryuu can be inflicted with "berserk" and "dark".

On a related note there are some challenge monsters which can be fought again and again in FF5. A few examples are, Prototype (mini omega! lol), Skull eater, Shield dragon, Exdeath soul, and Gil Turtle. Unlike challenge bosses their weakness are more obvious and easier to exploit.

While they can be a tough fight, these bosses and monsters has quenched my thirst for a challenge. I fell they have made me a better and more resourceful gamer. Ever since then I have always loved fighting challenge bosses and always looked for one in every RPG I play, including but not limited to the ones below;

FF7: the two primary challenge bosses here are Ruby and Emerald weapon. Ruby tends to spam Ultima, so we equipped Cloud with this armor (forgot name) which makes most spells miss. Cloud never got hit by Ruby's ultima. Emerald on the other hand has this nasty attack which inflicts 1111 damage for every materia equipped, so we just equipped Cloud with 2 materias, Knights of the round summon connected to an HP absorb.

FFX: the first challenge bosses in this game are omega and ultima weapons, but they are really nothing much to talk about in comparison to the new challenge bosses, the dark aeons and Penance. The dark aeons strong in all stats, but what we were worried about was their speed and evasion, so we got our fastest and most accurate characters, (Tidus, Wakka, Rikku) and completed their sphere grid... twice, to make them a match for the challenge bosses. We also got them their best weapons. All dark Aeons were though but it was dark bahamut which stood out among them.

Finally we got to fight penance. We buffed the party with cheer and made them attack using quick hit. It was long and tedious but the party was doing fine and penance was never able to attack with his arms. We finally damage him enough to fight the second form. Now the second form has this attack called immolation. It luckily only hits one character, but removes all their mp, but that wasn't our primary reason for concern. We notice that every time Penance would hit a character with immolation, the next time he or she gets hit by immolation again he or she dies instantly, We were scratching our heads at what causes this. First we thought that immolation instantly kill characters without any mp, but that wasn't it. We finally decided to check on the status of character hit by immolation. We found out that immolation also lowers a character's defence greatly, so next time we restored there defence, then we were able to defeat penance.

FFX-2: FFX-2 has an entire "challenge dungeon:, via infinito. It's full of strong monsters, and a boss every few levels. The bosses can be weakened by oversouling them by fighting similar monsters. When oversouled they sometime lose their nastiest attack.

Their is really cool looking challenge boss somewhere in the desert called Angra-Mainyu, when the party challenges him early on, he'll only swat them away eventually. He can be fought later on, and this time it's to the finish. We defeated him by reducing his mp to 0, making him unable to attack, but with his mp he has some pretty devastating attacks

The Al-bhed also made a robot which is made of parts you give them, it has a powerful rocket attack, but it's not much to worry about. But I suppose it's still supposed to be a challenge boss.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2008 23:40
too...lazy...to...read...your...post...

Sasuke
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Posted: 21st Apr 2008 22:19 Edited at: 21st Apr 2008 22:20
Preston C and Roxas, I've wanted to play FFXI for ages, but never had the money. By the sound of it, there are some epic challenge's. When i've got the money i'll give it a try.

enthusiast, forgot to mention FFX-2. I think some of the bosses could have been harder though. The hardest boss in via infinito was Exodus(Paragon) and Trema which you had to fight straight after, but if you maxed out, this is nothing. If your lucky enough to have played the japanese version(FFX-2 International + Last Mission), then you'll get a chance in the Animal Collosseum+Battle Arena thing(why can't they just release the same version globally, who know?). You could fight anything in the game plus extra, like characters/monsters from FFX. You could also get any monster to fight any monster in the game and train them up by battling. I don't know the specific's but it's similar to Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix +(which is another japanese only, man that sucks).

Another Final Fantasy I was lucky to play was Crisis Core FF7, which frankly, is a great PSP title. There are some hard monsters in this:

[Spoiler]
Cactuar's are evil, there all strong and fast and have attacks you can't defend against(unless you have invincibility status on, I think). They have a simple hit, they have 1000 needles, which is 10 needles that take 100 each and has a chance of stunning. Most commonly your see 10,000 needles which is 10 needles that take 1000 each. But the hardest is Kactuare. Kactuare stats are at max(expect magic), even luck, they have a ton of health and are recover fast. You have to fight three of these at the same time, if you get caught in one of there 10,000 needles then your going to get the others, thats 30,000 HP people. If you manage to get ones HP down enough then you better run cause your about hit by a mega attack, 100,000 needles. That's 10,000 HP gone in one needle, If you get hit by all ten, instant death. Thats one of the many hard monsters in CC-FFVII.
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2008 17:45 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2008 17:46
Sasuke,
http://flare.xenmedia.org/Sky/lolwiki/index.php/Cloudef

Its our Linkshell Wikipedia.. Our linkshell page is http://www.dharanempire.co.nr

Also the page is made by me
Oh yes.. My name is Cloudef in FFXI Ive played long but im uber slow in that game because i dont have so much time for it.

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