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Geek Culture / Computer Advice For An Ignorant Coder

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Libervurto
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 02:03
hey dudes
i have no computer!
I want to buy a laptop but know shamefully little about hardware.
I need some advice on how to go about getting what i need for a good price.
all i need it for is DB and the internet, i don't do much pc gaming but if i can afford to buy something powerful I will.

Also can anyone recommend a website for learning hardware terminology?

thanks

It is far better to complete a 10 line program than to start a 10,000 line program.
SunnyKatt
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 02:08
Dell.com - Everything there is great but prices.
They have little flash shows on the pc's where you can open up little windows to learn what what means.
but...
So...expensive...

Agent Dink
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 02:35
ibuypower.com

bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 03:45
Quote: "Dell.com - Everything there is great but prices.
They have little flash shows on the pc's where you can open up little windows to learn what what means.
but...
So...expensive..."


Dell? everything there is suck but the prices:/ Their prices are competitive, but the quality is lacking.

I'd buy a laptop off of newegg.com personally, from toshiba or some similar. No Dells or HPs for me


Hurray for teh logd!
SunnyKatt
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 03:45
Lol, then we think opposite.

bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 03:57
No we don't


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Libervurto
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 04:11
thanks all
i'll check out those sites
@zeke
unfortunately PS3 can't play flash animations :-#

It is far better to complete a 10 line program than to start a 10,000 line program.
Osiris
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 04:33
Check out some Falcon Northwest.

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You will be dearly missed.
peorge
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 16:59 Edited at: 19th Apr 2008 23:24
here is a great site for buying computers and computer things. this site finds the best prices and shows you from lowest to highest prices.

for what you want i would say...
cpu 2Gig
ram 2Gig

video card radeon 1600 series
mother board, i like asus brand
hard drive 500Gig 7200rpm just because they are so cheap now days
any dvd/cd reader writer will do
you could put something like this together for $500-$600 and learn as you build. that is how i started.

that is pretty much what my pc is and i have no problem with even high end 3d software such as maya or 3ds max. you can get all the latest and greatest cards and boards but you really dont need that so i would say stay middle of the road.

found this about terminology at http://www.zerocut.com/tech/c_terms.html

Basic Computer Terminology

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have fun and good luck, peorge
NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 17:40
Half of that wasn't even related to hardware. I therefore don't think you made it. Should it not be in Quote tags?


I fail at life. No, really.
Hybrid
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 17:54 Edited at: 19th Apr 2008 17:57
If you want a good pc, sheck out http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/pages/aero_ar5.html. and lol, an 8800 in a laptop oh, and soulds like someone copy pasta'd to me. yum

greenlig
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 18:06
Lol, Shutup NeX. He was just trying to help.

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Sven B
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 19:08
I have an ASUS laptop now, and I'm very happy with it.
It's pricey, but high quality. Never had any problems either.

It's the programmer's life:
Have a problem, solve the problem, and have a new problem to solve.
peorge
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 19:13
"Half of that wasn't even related to hardware. I therefore don't think you made it. Should it not be in Quote tags?"

that is why i posted the link to where i got the info.

"found this about terminology at http://www.zerocut.com/tech/c_terms.html"


peorge
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 20:24
Quote: "unfortunately PS3 can't play flash animations :-#"

WTF? My PS3 can. O maybe only the one on this site?

Make games, not war.
PAGAN_old
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 21:03
you might think that you want to start off with a cheap laptop. I had the same feeleng when i got my first one. Soon before i knew it I started getting power hungry (and i wanted my db stuff to run well. So i kept wanting an even better computer.

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
SunnyKatt
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 21:07
@peorge
Put ["code"] and ["/code"] brackets (without quotation marks) around that big section of yours so we dont have to scroll down through all that.

kaedroho
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 21:32
Quote: "Dell.com"


DONT GET DELL!

peorge
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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 23:23 Edited at: 19th Apr 2008 23:25
sorry i did not know about hte thing. i fixed it.

peorge
PAGAN_old
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Posted: 20th Apr 2008 03:53
get an asus Or get an older IBM notebook T30 or T40 (45)? They are pretty cheap, (ebay about $300) have decent dedicated video so all your dark basic will run well (trust me you do not want a shared video card My IBM has a 16mb radeon 7500 and its way better than any shared video device ive owned). They are also easy to upgrade and are very durable.

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 20th Apr 2008 04:15
There aren't bad cheap laptops about - I'm looking for one myself (only to use for uni, as my current one is crap) and some of them look quite powerful.

If I was looking - the minimum I'd go for if running Windows XP is:

1.5 GHZ
512mb ram
40gb hard drive (this really depends on what you're doing with it)

If running Windows Vista, I've not used it, but from comments I've read I'd say:

A new processor -> Intel Core processors seem to be the hip thing (though I'm sure Vista runs on lower)
1gb ram

60gb hard drive

If you have an okay graphics card, you'll be able to handle DBP - though if you're wanting to game newer games, then you need to be able to pick up the price and increase the minimum aim.

I think some laptops are cheap enough with 1.6ghz Core Duo 2 (dual core) 2gb RAM 80gb Hard drive with the nVidia 8400 graphics card (the low end Direct X 10 card, which can run Crysis, but only on a low setting, apparently)

Dells have a reputation for not being good, but I'll be careful as to what I say, last time I said that, it was in front of a friend that just so happens to be an ex-Dell employee that likes Dells.

"Experience never provides its judgments with true or strict universality; but only (through induction) with assumed and comparative universality." - Immanuel Kant
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 17:21 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 17:22
Quote: "No Dells or HPs for me"


Yeah, I have to agree. HP computers I hear are a big pain because if something goes wrong, you don't have a restoration CD. They replaced it by partitioning the hard drive into a few fragments: one for the restoration files and the other for everyday use. The problem is figuring out exactly HOW to access the restoration files.....

The only complaint I have against Dell (other than their prices) is that they once sent a laptop with the wrong keyboard, i.e., it was an English computer with a FRENCH keyboard. Whoops!

Other than that I seriously wouldn't mind a Dell laptop after I made SURE that the keyboard was right..lol.


Thanks BigAdd!!
Benjamin
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 19:08
Quote: "HP computers I hear are a big pain because if something goes wrong, you don't have a restoration CD."

I have both a restoration partition plus CDs.

Aertic
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 23:02
Quote: "An Ignorant Coder"


I know the most ignorant coder, Book, I hate book, book is stupid..
Jeku
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 00:50
Quote: "I know the most ignorant coder, Book, I hate book, book is stupid.."


*groan*


Darth Vader
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 16:51
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