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Geek Culture / New RapidShare Image verification

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Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 14:06
have you seen the new image verification images on rapidshare? There ridiculous.

Just look at this


seams to be a bit silly


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Zappo
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 14:30
That's a nice idea, but far too difficult and complicated to see which ones have the cat. Personally I like the more human verification methods where you get pictures like a red car, a blue house and a yellow dog and it asks "What colour is the car?". Simple yet very effective as the answer is not written as text in the image.


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Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 14:34
yer i like those, the old rapidshare ones are also retarded. It has a
O but is it a 0 O or o?


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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 14:39
Quote: "That's a nice idea, but far too difficult and complicated to see which ones have the cat. Personally I like the more human verification methods where you get pictures like a red car, a blue house and a yellow dog and it asks "What colour is the car?". Simple yet very effective as the answer is not written as text in the image."


if anything, thats even easier for a machine to read then the usual distorted text. With text in an image the spambot has to use OCR to get a string, which can be unreliable, but with a color image it can just grab an RGB value and parse it to text. (i.e. if the RGB is mostly R it will parse 'red')
Benjamin
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 14:54 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 14:58
Quote: "but with a color image it can just grab an RGB value and parse it to text. (i.e. if the RGB is mostly R it will parse 'red')"

But how is it going to know which image to check the colour of?

Veron
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 15:18
My god, I got really pissed off at Rapidshare when I couldn't figure out the stupid verification code.

I'm with Zappo - the colour verification thing would be pretty cool - or they can just revert back to the standard numbers/letters combination.


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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 17:14 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 17:14
Quote: "if anything, thats even easier for a machine to read then the usual distorted text."

As Benjamin said, it would be impossible for an automated system to know which part of the image you were talking about. Take, for example, this image:


The system could ask any of these questions:
What is the colour of the car?
What is the colour of the house?
What is the colour of the dog?
Which item is red (car, house or dog)?
Which item is yellow (car, house or dog)?
Which item is blue (car, house or dog)?

If it was answered incorrectly you would get a new image, which would be comprised of random items in random colours.


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BiggAdd
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 17:27 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 17:27
Tbh though it could cause difficulties with the colour blind. Even though it is the better system, they would have to provide an alternative method of verification (Which would revert you back to the squiggly image stuff)

But I agree, the above method should be used more frequently. I get sick of having to figure out whether or not its o, O or 0.
Just terribly annoying if you've filled out a load of data before hand only realizing you have to go over the arduous task again!

dan958
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 17:59
I had trouble when i was on this, i could only find 3 cats!..the other didnt look like anything.


Soroki
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 18:19 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 18:20
What, did they change it AGAIN? There was one day i tried to download something and the usually easy to read letters were so distorted I couldn't tell what was going on. Now they have pictures?

EDITh, wait lol nevermind....I just re-read that. Not what I thought it was. But yeah those letters cannot be read easily. I spent ten minutes before I gave up...

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 19:56 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2008 20:04
I created something to exemplify what I think that would be efficient and much less annoying. The user has to perform a very simple task: drag a randomly positioned ball and drop it on a randomly chosen shape. It is attached to this post. If you do not have Flash installed, open it with a browser.

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Mr Tank
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2008 22:11
I thnk RS treats O and 0 as the same thing: it doesn't matter which you type in. Also it doesn't care about capitalisation. The cat and dog thing just takes a bit of practice. Sometimes you have to guess a bit, but then you just go back and try again. I guess they keep changing it to counter the development of automated routines that read the images. Wonder what they'll come up with next.

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Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 05:39
Quote: "I thnk RS treats O and 0 as the same thing"


Nope, not for me anyways


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