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Geek Culture / Gone the Distance

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Sasuke
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 01:50
Has anyone ever loved a game, even in the first hour to say to them self’s "I’m going the distance on this". So the onslaught of side quests, secrets and food/toilet breaks begins. You get to that point where you'll take a sick day off work or school/college to play the ever growing disease that rests in your computers hard drive. Then suddenly everything slows down, play hour per day steadily get shorter, and finally you start playing other games in between.

It’s all ended. The sleepless nights, the possible chance of your bladder bursting because you don’t want to leave the keyboard (even with the pause feature). You’ve got to that point where the game doesn't have anything left to give and the game hasn't even ended yet.

Has anyone got to this point while playing a game other than me? I can bet there’s a ton of Assassins Creed players out there feeling the same.
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 01:56
That happenened to me with oblivion, had several 40 - some level characters with everything done and I finally got pulled away from it (crysis came out). Now I go on and off again, still love it.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 01:56 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 02:11
I got Supreme Commander free with my 8600GTS and couldn't stop playing it. Completed the story 3 times with all 3 tribes in just 5 days. The only thing i didn't manage was the 5 way LAN bot game in highest level they're just too damn fast at building, no human could keep up, and they gang up on me!



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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 02:03 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 02:04
Quote: "I got Supreme Commander free with my 8600GTS and couldn't stop playing it."

I got Supreme Commander, but I had to turn graphics all the way down to make it play decent and it looked like crap, so I quit till I get a new computer (hopefully this summer )


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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 03:05 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 03:05
I love Supreme Commander and I know what you mean about the 5 way LAN bot game in highest level being damn hard GatorHex. Gil Galvanti, it's worth wait for believe me.

One game that board me was Halo 3. The whole game you where hit by the same scenarios over and over and the only offset from them was the flood, but not by much. Then when you think your going to get something new and inventive, your hopes are shattered by being throw back into another similar scenario. Forge and Multiplayer makes up for this.

Think thats bad, I nearly died trying to complete Just Cause. The completely linear main story and the many side quests where you did the same thing over and over. It's more of a pickup and play game where messing around makes the games worth the while.
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 03:36 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 20:38
Oh by the way if anyone wants a Gigabyte nVidia 8600GTS Silent + Supreme Commander game I've got spare and I'm looking for £50 delivered in UK mainland.

It fits in a cube case (just) but the person i bought it for thought it looked ugly through the case window so it's got to go

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Jeku
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 03:50
I rarely find a game that compels me to complete. Most of the time I'll play for a half hour or so and just put it to rest for good--- not out of boredom, just out of "meh", if that makes sense. The game has to really blow my mind. The last time I beat a game was COD4, and that was last year

I guess I'm the same way with movies. I'll take out movies from work and watch 20 minutes before turning it off. That goes for *most* of the movies I watch--- most movies and games are just too samey.


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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 04:13
I LOVE SUPREME COMMANDER!!!
chris taylors godliness struck again. I havn't played in a while, but I beat supreme AI. One time they sent 16 monkeylords at me. But my massive defense saved me...

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 04:20
I think the last game that really sucked me in was Mass Effect... I've finished it 4 times now and I still think it's awesome... The game before that was RE4 which is another fantastic game that I've finished multiple times...

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 05:38
I've finished Morrowind once or twice, but still make new files on it CONSTANTLY, like once a week I'll start it and stop and make a new file next week.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 10:57
I get it with about every other game I play, though I haven't skived off school for a pc game since Diablo 2. Every time it happens, I think "dam, wtf am I doing with my life? I could have made a 1337-mmo in this time, but instead gone and done something entirely unproductive that once completed, has had no benefit for me.."

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 11:19
I haven't been hooked on a game for quite a while, not really since Resident Evil 4 - that was one game that I lived in for about a week . Usually those types of game are straightforward A to Z routes from start to finish, but RE4 is so big and has so many secrets and stuff that you can really get into it if you want. There's these blue plates for example, hanging from trees, going round and round on windmills, and if you shoot them all (or most of them) you get a cool bonus gun. There's lots of things like that, treasure that you find can be kept until you get extra bits for it, like jewels to inset in a crown, then your able to sell it for a lot more. Then once you complete the game you unlock new weapons (unlimited ammo rocket launcher FTW!). I like games that are interesting enough to bother with the extra stuff, I mean even after completing it I went back to try and 100% the treasure and secrets.

Oblivion is a good game for this as well, I just wish they had went a little bit further with the realism, like being able to smash the glass objects, or rearrange someones nick-nacks without being arrested . I really like how people can properly die as well, even if it's a harmless accident, getting caught in someones house for instance, but having a corpse rotting away in a basement that only you know about is actually quite a cool feature.


less is more, but if less is more how you keeping score?
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 11:21 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 11:23
actually, with assassins creed (unless i misunderstood what your saying), I believe im towards the end, (unless they throw in some twists), and I'm sad because it's ending too soon. I'm a big fan

I can't get enough of that game, all the negative reviews, to me, are full of it. The game is super addictive. In fact, it's one of those games where I think I really am going to go back and try to complete all the flags and stuff for 100 percent.

But what you're talking about happened to me on both doom 3 and hl2


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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 12:47
There are 4 types of games:

1. Games you love and play through
Zelda OOT - do I need to say more?
Soul Reaver - had exelent story and gameplay

2. Games that you get bored with
Okami - after 30-40 hours it's very repetitive
Final Fantay X - got fed up with constant battles, which also looked the same

3. Games that suddenly gets to hard for you
Ratchet and Clank - the final boss pretty much requires a cheat
Jak and Daxter - Never pulled off those horrible jumps at the end

4. Games that you just don't like
None worth mentioning


The lists for each could of course be made far longer. The problem with many games that are longer then those too short 10 hours is that the developers just add more of the same or simply don't polish the end as much as the beginning. It's a well known fact that most players never finish their games, but that's hardly the players faults.

Also I'd like to point out that this thread is not about the games that you played through, especially not the ones you did so more then once. It's about those games you put down before completing the main story.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 13:05
OOT = Best game (in general) ever.

I have the official soundtract from japan!

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 13:33 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 13:40
I think that if you look at all the games ever made and what the overall reaction of OOT is, I think one could say it's the best game ever made. The graphics where amazing at the time but the story was a bit lacking compared to other games; the game really only had 2 problems though:

1) You had to go into the inventory screen to change boots constantly in one dungeon; you needed the heavy ones to sink through water but could not jump in them, thus you where forced to switch often.

2) When you fail at a boss you have to start over at the entrance of the dungeon; since you often have no clue how to defeat a boss this is very irritating and many probably look in walkthroughs on how beat them.

The game was never so hard that you found yourself hopelessly stuck, at least not when using a boss guide, but always constantly changing. With the exception of perhaps Zelda 2, all Zelda games have managed to keep the player interested even with weak storylines. The Zelda games are all about the gameplay; using many simple but well thought out mechanics, they outdo every other game in this area. When Zelda 3 came it really set the standard for all it's successors.

I think it was the first game to ever score 10.0 at Gamespot. With a critic score of 9.8 and a user score of 9.7 it's quite amazing. Back in Nov 1998 GS wrote: "This is the masterpiece that people will still be talking about ten years down the road." Only 7 months to go

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 13:44
Bah, we will still be talking about it then.

I personally liked oot's storyline.

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Call of Duty 4, I completed that game twice back-to-back. I played through it the first time and once I completed it I immediately started it again. Another one I loved was oblivion, although the continuous slaying of vampires, people, ghosts etc got repetitive once you had decent armour and weaponry it was too easy (even with the difficulty turned up)

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It's not that the story is bad in any way, and if you look all the parts and how it's told it's a good story. I'm just saying that it's not one of those games where the story is what makes you want to play it. You can't compare a Zelda story to the ones of the Blood Omen or Final Fantasy series or if you look at a game like Planescape Torment or Chrono Trigger. Basically OOT is bad guy kidnapping princess and good guy saving her with the twist of him traveling through time. It's not the story that makes OOT so good and makes you want to finish it.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 14:32
All three Halo games, Deus Ex (that took me 4 days nonetheless) and Metal Gear Solid. I'm finally in possession of part 2 again, and I'm going to go straight through it when I have the time. Part 3... Sigh, don't have the hardware to play that, while MGS4 is coming closer!


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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 15:11 Edited at: 24th Apr 2008 15:16
Jerico2day, Assassins Creed is a stunning game that’s if you don’t take it too seriously. But a game so big and invented didn’t have much as it could have offered. What you end up with were dull and sometimes pointless missions where you have to accumulate three bit of information before finding your ultimate target. That’s not a bad idea but when you have to go through the exact same process to find that target, that idea is somewhat dulled. You are rewarded with being able to take any route and going at it at any angle you want which to me is a great selling point. Not every mission is like this, which is a change of pace, at least if only for a couple of minutes. When you finally get to that ultimate target, the end result is usually a sword fight in the middle of the street, but sometimes that can be fun and you may get a chase out of it. The end was a bit disappointing as well but I won’t go down that path.

The game would be a master piece if they added more variety to the way some missions were carried out and a not so clichéd final boss, and not to forget an option to skip some of the lengthy cutscences. I have to say there Scimitar engine is outstanding, to see and entire city bathed with light and filled with life to that level of detail I though wasn’t capable and the flowing animation of are (anti) hero is the best I’ve ever seen. Assassins Creed is a great game with tiny flaws and it not the first, I’ve played and completed it twice and I still play it but not as much as I hoped for.

There’s my tiny review for ya, I’ve wanted to be a journalist but I don’t think I could make it, so I just settle for games designing.
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 15:29
Assissins Creed, I really disliked that game. I got it free when I bought my console...I traded it in two days later.

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Not all games are for everybody, like I'm not much a fan of sports games(football, basketball, things I could do in my garden), i'd rather play the real thing y'know. Though I do a few extreme sports, I like playing those types of games(skate/snowboarding etc), but that just me. I love RPG's, somewhere I can get lost in someone's creation. Final Fantasy series, Elder Scrolls series, Mass Effect, Star Wars: KOTOR(2, not so much), Fallout, the list goes on. I play and love every genre except regular sports and regular driving games, but play RPG's the most.
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Quote: "Final Fantay X - got fed up with constant battles, which also looked the same"


I dont agree with that... You can use no encouter in sword or armor to prevent this.. But i cant see why those random battles annyous actually.. They are pretty fun.. Also the story in this game is amazing.

You should add that to first list imo.

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Guy's the original intent of this thread was to see if anyone has shared the same experience as me, I'll give you an example.

Have you ever played a game where you know that in the first hour of play you love the game and will see it through to the end, only to be dissapointed three hours later(in an 10 to 40 hour game) when you played everything the game has to offer. You know if you continue to play theres nothing really new to see, you could grab that new powerful weapon, that rare item, dive into that main quest, beat that unlocked sports team, kick in that new fighter, but doesn't change gameplay one bit. You would proberly ask me how can you play a game like final fantasy, it's because I know that theres something new to see, a new challenge always waiting for me and beating it is the reward, a main quest worth the playthrough with a good story to boot. But if theres nothing, is it worth continuing. Has anyone ever had that experience before?
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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 16:41
Quote: "Guy's the original intent of this thread was to see if anyone has shared the same experience as me, I'll give you an example.

Have you ever played a game where you know that in the first hour of play you love the game and will see it through to the end, only to be dissapointed three hours later(in an 10 to 40 hour game) when you played everything the game has to offer. You know if you continue to play theres nothing really new to see, you could grab that new powerful weapon, that rare item, dive into that main quest, beat that unlocked sports team, kick in that new fighter, but doesn't change gameplay one bit. You would proberly ask me how can you play a game like final fantasy, it's because I know that theres something new to see, a new challenge always waiting for me and beating it is the reward, a main quest worth the playthrough with a good story to boot. But if theres nothing, is it worth continuing. Has anyone ever had that experience before?"


Thats what i tought.. Ive had this exprience.. I just dont remember the game.. Just give me few mins to think about it lol.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 22:36
Quote: "OOT = Best game (in general) ever."


See and that's my problem. I bought that on virtual console, played for about an hour and just went "meh" and turned it off forever. Video game storyline's are almost always so infantile that even some of the lamest films have a more captivating story.

Take GTA 3. There's a backstory, but is it so captivating to literally make you play to see what happens? You play because it's fun to do missions and bust heads. But will it hold you like Goodfellas did the first time you watched it? Most likely not.


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Posted: 24th Apr 2008 22:43
Well, that was MY opinion, that game has so many memories for me, I just love it.

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Final Fantasy VII (mastered the Knights of the round materia 3 times so all my party for the last battle had it haha)

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Roxas:
FFX is a great game most of the time but I never got far enough for any way to avoid battles. I made it through that place where you had to dodge lightning and there was like 1 "random" battle every 5-10 steps, usually these "random" battles consisted of the exact same 3 monsters. There's nothing fun about them, just useless grinding that's forced on you.


Sasuke:
I started out loving Okami on PS2, the gameplay is fresh and the graphical style is amazing. I got like 15-20 hours into it and just stopped playing. Months later I decided to play it from the start again and I've put 50-60 hours into this new session. Great story, been hunting for all the treasures etc. But it got more and more repetitive. The battles turned into mostly button mashing. I don't think I got much left of the game but I've not played it for months.


Jeku:
You should try the Legacy of Kain games, well the first 2D one (Blood Omen 1) isn't great but Soul Reaver 1 and 2 are. Well, SR 1 have both great story and gameplay while SR 2 just have an amazing story. I must say I should play the last two games as well some day. This series is most well known for it's story. IIRC you only need to play the Soul Reaver games and Defiance (the last one) to get the good parts.

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Digital Awakening,
I just got Okami for the PS2, i've only played a few hours but i'm enjoying it so far, i'll see if I get the same reaction.

One game that I stopped playing after four hours was Oblivion. There was just little things that ruined it for me, like the stupid AI. If I fire an arrow into someones head 100 yards away in stealth mode, the reaction shouldn't be for them to know exactly where I am and run over to fight, it's not even smart. Whats the point of stealth, I might aswell just run over there and fire at point blank range. There combat AI wasn't even smart ever, but anyone whos played it would know that. And the stupid leveling system where everything levels up with you. It would have been fine if there was a level limit, so monsters and people would only level up to a limit. I shouldn't be able to be killed by a rat at level 25, theres just no feeling of advancement.

The second time I picked it up I never stopped playing. There are many great secret that kept me hooked and some great missions, like all the dark brotherhood quests where excellent, inside the painting quest and theres many other greats. That finger of the mountain quest for the mage's guild, that had a great secret, the spell you get is the most powerful spell in the game. Stuff like that make me want to play. Like having fun with golins, has anyone ever started a goblin war where goblins start hunting you down, any where you are(no cheats or mods), if anyone wants to know how to do this, just ask. I've been playing for 250+ plus hours now, my drive was to play all the great mission and find all those secrets and boy theres alot of them.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 01:38
That post seemed bipolar to me, lol.

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Weird isn't it. For some reason I didn't notice all those things the second time round.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 04:05
Yes. That happened to me with a game (to a less extent) however I can't remember which.

The vice versa also happened to me...

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 15:35
Quote: "FFX is a great game most of the time but I never got far enough for any way to avoid battles. I made it through that place where you had to dodge lightning and there was like 1 "random" battle every 5-10 steps, usually these "random" battles consisted of the exact same 3 monsters. There's nothing fun about them, just useless grinding that's forced on you."


Use flee.

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That doesn't make these "random" battles any more fun. They just shouldn't be in the game period. Anyway, I forgot to mention that after I completed that run I saved in the town and have never played again.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 19:07 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 19:10
Quote: "Take GTA 3. There's a backstory, but is it so captivating to literally make you play to see what happens? You play because it's fun to do missions and bust heads. But will it hold you like Goodfellas did the first time you watched it? Most likely not."


That's what I thought of Mafia, which I finally got around to half-playing through just recently.

I stopped when I realized I really didn't care what happened next. The story and voiceovers were incredibly dull.

Now with Assassins creed, the acting was right on, well done. The story itself, while a bit cliche in some parts, was really interesting.

Possible spoilers?:



I thought it was great all around. The game play, yes, a little repetitive, but I liked it because each time there was a little twist in there.

Like one part where you have to pickpocket a guy who's inside a mini tower-castle thing. If you leave the castle you'll alert the guards, so you have to pickpocket your target before he leaves (and he's on the way to walking out, you have less than a minute or so. Then, to top it off, the mentally challenged gits inside of the castle push you around and half the time, right into your target or a guard. Very difficult.

In reality, I could have lived without them, they were really aggravating. They were really the most annoying part of the game, they always pushed you at the most inopportune time

Anyways, that aside, I guess I wasn't listening to all the hype about the game, I was listening only to all the negatives. So when I went in I expected the worst, and found a very fun roaming environment with awesome stealth kill abilities outlined with an ace story.

And there was always something new to discover throughout the game. Every time I played I saw something different. Like, halfway through the game I discovered I could tackle kill people, you can't imagine how giddy I was to discover that the bow and arrow dudes can be taken stealthily without wasting a knife if I just run at them real quick

I think if anyone here hasn't yet played the game because of the reviews, try it out, I think you'd love it.


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(oops this went in the wrong thread)

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I beat OOT seven times before deciding that I should probably try playing something else.

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I was thinking about posting up a comment about oot, such as that its awesome in my opinion, but I decided not to.

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Doesn't anyone else think it sucks that Metal Gear Solid Integral doesn't run on Windows Vista at all?


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