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Geek Culture / I think... I'm about to cry.

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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I just recently ordered a kickass gaming computer from cyberpowerpc.com (two video cards, both of them 512mb, 2g of ram, and an intel core 2 duo processor(2.33g(pretty nice huh?)))

AAAAaaanyway, after I ordered it. I discovered that I could change the operating system (the default was vist which I prefer xp)

So, I call them and request to change the operating system to xp and the change that wouldn't affect the price was to xp media center edition.

I got to thinking about it and decided that I would be better fit to have xp professional w/service pack two

but when I called them I was too late! =[

Is it possible to "upgrade" from microsoft windows xp media center edition to microsoft windows xp professional???

someone please help me!

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Robert F
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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 03:13
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You could always delete everything off of your harddrive and install pro

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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aw but that's... ok I'm not about to cry, I'm crying

lol jk

I guess since, wait will that damage the hard drive at all or would all the necessary things be installed if i installed xp pro???

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you can walk into any store that sells computer stuff and buy XP Pro

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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about how much does xp pro cost?

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GatorHex
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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 03:29 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 03:32
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If your in the UK you can send stuff back 7-14 days after it arrives without a reason other than you changed your mind.

I'd ring them and warn them they will just waste postage cost!

Buying XP or Vista when the computer is built is about 2/3 cheaper. (because M$ don't want you putting linux on there and you probably would if it cost +£150 for an M$ OS!)

Vista has an inbuilt upgrade path, not sure of it's costs, don't think XP had such a thing. Also you can install vista without entering your licence key to see if you like it for 30 days. Thats what I did with the 64bit version to make sure I could get drivers working before i commit to it.

The only reason to go for XP Pro is for the extra security and realy Vistas security is much stronger.

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Chenak
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whats wrong with media edition? I see no huge difference between media or pro edition.
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Allanon Shadeslayer
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I guess it's not that bad. I'm just overly picky when it comes to things that cost me 900 dollars

Anyway thx for your help all I always a appreciate it!



but, one more thing. Say I bought xp professional and I wanted to change it but the only way was to erase my hard drive first

what are the risks to that?

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 06:01 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 06:02
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beware you could kill xp

Big manufacturers won't give you an XP DVD often they make hidden partition on your hard drive and copy the files there. Wipe this and you've got no OS intall to go back too.

the sticker on the side of your case doesn't always tie to the serial number of the install. HP, Dell and the like will use a single serial number for each model and you need to rip this from the registry using a serial recovery tool and store it somewhere safe incase you need it again.

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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sounds too complicated, i'll just stick with media center edition i guess. it kan't be that bad

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 12:56
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Quote: "If your in the UK you can send stuff back 7-14 days after it arrives without a reason other than you changed your mind."


True, for standard products. I don't think it applies to customised products - even if it is something as simple as software changes.
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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 13:05 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 13:06
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I've got XP Media Center Edition, Its pritty much the same as XP Pro, But with a few extra programmes so they can call it a "Media Center"

Although the MediaCenter Version is fuzzy when installing Codex's and Decoders, as you may need some which are specificly designed for XPMediaCenter, Which suprise suprise, they charge you for.

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Mr Z
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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 13:50 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 13:53
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What I have heard XP Media Center is basically XP Pro with that "Media Center" adon and a feature turned of (do not remember which though, has something do with more advanced networking, may be remote desktop).

Quote: "I guess it's not that bad. I'm just overly picky when it comes to things that cost me 900 dollars"


That is entierly understandable. Cost much should taste very good, so to speak. That is not always the case, but that is what we want.

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The main difference between XP Home and XP Pro is that you can't join a domain with XP Home, I'm sure the media center edition is just XP Home with the missing network features, which enable it to connect to 360's and stuff like that.

I wouldn't change the OS unless you really need to, it's likely that XP MC will have everything you need.


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Allanon Shadeslayer
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ok cool, I feel better now. The computer I'm using right now (my parents) has xp media center edition and it works fine

the only thing that might be weird is that it takes FOREVER for certain games to install

not the actual installing part but for some reason when i put the cd in and click on the install application, i have to wait and stare at a windowless, empty desktop for about five to ten minutes before the "installsheild wizard" comes up and installs it.

and this isn't the right place for this question, but do you think microsoft will fix their bugs in vista?

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 17:55 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 17:56
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Quote: "whats wrong with media edition? I see no huge difference between media or pro edition."

Yeah, I don't see much of one either.
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the only thing that might be weird is that it takes FOREVER for certain games to install"

It's the PC, media center over here has been dreamy.
Quote: "but do you think microsoft will fix their bugs in vista?
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Bugs? Two words: Use Vista, before asking about bugs.


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Quote: "Quote: "but do you think microsoft will fix their bugs in vista?
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Bugs? Two words: Use Vista, before asking about bugs."


Indeed, my comp with vista on it runs fine and dandy.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 18:36
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Quote: "Bugs? Two words: Use Vista, before asking about bugs."


lol, I was just about to ask, what bugs?


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Copy a large file. It'll take a while. That's a turn-off enough for me. The Vista theme is pretty much the only advantage I can see. Which I downloaded from DeviantArt for free.


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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 20:43 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 20:46
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xp home = vista home basic

xp media center = vista premium is the one you want if you want to use you PC for watching and recording TV. You can get a media center keyboard which makes it easy to use.

xp pro = vista business

something like that anyway

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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Actually, The only thing I plan to use the computer I ordered for is iTunes, High-end games, game programming, and internet stuff

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Then you'd want vista for directx10


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Allanon Shadeslayer
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aw, but everybody tells me that vista sux and has too many problems

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Quote: "aw, but everybody tells me that vista sux and has too many problems"


You're thinking of windows in general.


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Allanon Shadeslayer
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hmmmmmmmmmm. well, it's too late now.

but in order to downgrade u have to erase hard drive but to upgrade to vist i kan just buy the software and install correct?

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Vista does not suck but is not that super good either, I prefer XP over Vista and Ubuntu over XP. Have used them all. That is however my opinion.

If you do not care that much about any eventual loss of performence, Vista would do just fine (if you have an high end computer it might even be faster because it is better with using some newer stuff, like multicore processors, then XP, but it is an resource hog). Vista is also more secure then XP thanks to programs like UAC, and if you do not think it is annoying or hate it, it is really good.

If you want speed, XP is much better. XP is better for games (except DX10 games, off course) then Vista and is lighter.

Bottom line is that it depends on your needs wither Vista or XP is best for you, and dependent on what you want and like or dislike about OSs, you will like it or not.

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Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of vista and upgrade from XP MCE

Keep in mind though that an OEM version might be cheaper than the upgrade version. However, the OEM version is locked to the computer you install it on. If you ever get rid of it for a new computer, you can't transfer windows.

For vista premium, you can get the OEM version here if you live in the States:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116204

The plus side with this, is if your copy of XP MCE is not OEM, you could sell it I would think.

If you don't know whether your copy of XP is or not, check your license.


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Allanon Shadeslayer
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again, i always appreciate everyone's help on this forum

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Posted: 25th Apr 2008 22:19 Edited at: 25th Apr 2008 22:21
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Quote: "Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of vista and upgrade from XP MCE"


By internal upgrde path I meant "Windows Any Time" http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/windowsanytimeupgrade/overview.mspx

But I've had a look at the prices now and it's a scam. All versions of Windows Vista are on the same DVD so they don't have to send you any extra media just unlock the features via online. The price difference between Home OEM and Premium OEM is about £10 but if you upgrade through anytime M$ want £50 extra!

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Quote: "You're thinking of windows in general."


*spits out coffee on screen* LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Well said, Jerico2Day, well said...


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Quote: "I'm sure the media center edition is just XP Home with the missing network features, which enable it to connect to 360's and stuff like that."


My 360 is backwards then haha, I could connect to it with my XP Home computer, but it will not recognize my XP Pro computer.

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The Xbox 360 connects to your music via Media Player 11 you may just need to update media player.

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Naw I did that, it still dosent recognize it, neither does my computer, it's really strange.

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