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Izzy545
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Posted: 15th May 2008 01:55
Attached is a song I wrote and recorded (sorry about some of the mess ups, it was my first time recording a song, and the first time I've used more than one instrument in a song...)

If anyone else on here does recording type stuff I have a few questions:

What microphone is a good quality, semi-cheap recording mic? I just have a crappy karaoke mic I'm using right now.

Also, what software do you use to record? Is there any good free or cheap software out there to use, I use Audacity right now and it seems good, just wondering what my options are.

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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 15th May 2008 02:09
Post this in the music + sound FX board next time.

Matt Rock
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Posted: 15th May 2008 06:37
Shure SM58 is the best microphone in the business. Durable, dependable, clean sound, and genuinely the best microphone for general-purpose use you can find. It's $99 on Musician's Friend. For miking an instrument, the Shure SM57. Accept no substitutes. If you can spend more on a proper microphone, do, but for $99 each, the SM58 and SM57 are as good as you'll need for amateur recordings.

As for software... define cheap? Sony makes some good software, and Sonar is really good for audio recording as well. Cool Edit Pro was my top choice, but they were bought out by Adobe and genuinely suck now :/

Agent Dink and I are in the process of making a website about building a home recording studio. For about $5000 you can record a full band with quality equalling a professional recording studio, or in the very least getting as close to professional as humanly possible. When we finish that site I'll put something up on TGC about it.

If that's an acoustic-electric, you should be putting it through a direct-box. Also, you should be recording the tracks independently... do your percussion (I hear hats in the background) first, then play guitar on a separate track, then sing without holding the instrument. Mixdown into a single track and you'll maximize your audio quality and the timing will be more precise. Drop me a line on Yahoo Messenger or via email and I can walk you through stuff, I was a DJ at a radio station for several years and I've recorded every band I've been in, so I'm decent with audio stuff

Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 15th May 2008 07:13
SM57 is the best for instruments (58 is the same but it has a pop filter)

Note NT1A is a good cheap condenser, but you will need phantom power for condensers.

NOTE: SM57's only sound awesome on a good pre-amp. If you have the money get a RNP (Really nice preamp). Those things make SM57's sound like sex


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Posted: 16th May 2008 22:18 Edited at: 17th May 2008 15:43
I've got a Rode K2 for in studio, but for live i use a sm58... i agree completely with everyone on its godliness! All /bow to the the sm58 :p.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 00:44 Edited at: 17th May 2008 00:45
In my ideal cheap-ish studio, I'd have an AKG Perception 200 for vocals, a Sennheiser e906 for guitar cabs, and a Shure Beta 52A for the bass cab. Some people like to record bass tracks via direct line, but I'm more into miking, you get better tones that way imo. Miking a drum kit is slightly more complex, but I'd have the Beta 52A on the bass drum, individual Sennheiser e604's on each tom, the snare, and the hats, and a pair of AKG Perception 150's for overheads. And I'd of course have a couple of 57's and 58's lying around for good measure, you can't go wrong with those as backups/ extras.

And of course I'd pipe all of this through monster cable (not a mogami fan personally) into a Behringer MX9000 console. Say what you will about Behringer's other products (and I'll probably agree with you, too), but I'd take the MX9000 over a Mackie Onyx any day of the week .

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Posted: 18th May 2008 22:13
Thanks for the help everyone, I'll have a look at those microphones once I get some money

It's not an acoustic-electric unfortunately, so I'll just have to stick with recording from a mic, but by the sounds of it I'll assume the quality will go up quite a bit once I invest in a better mic?

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Posted: 18th May 2008 23:06
Totally. $100 for an SM57 will go a VERY long way . And when you move into using electrics you'll find infinite uses for an SM57 .

I recommend you look up Cardoid and Condenser mics and learn what they're good for. Musician's Friend has buyer's guides that walk you through what each bit does, it's all pretty easy to navigate and whatnot.

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Quote: "Condenser mics"


will need phantom power as well, and maybe a goodish pre-amp.

what AI do you have Izzy?

id recomend getting a M-Audio Solo http://www.zzounds.com/item--MDOFWSOLO

has Phantom power, and it has moderatly good sound. Should do for starting off.


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Posted: 20th May 2008 03:35
The only AI I'd ever use is the Echo3 Layla. Dreamy . But you don't need a $500 AI unless you're recording a full band .

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