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Agent Dink
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Opinions?

My opinion (SPOILERZ)





Please post all spoilers in 'code' tags so that way people who haven't seen the movie yet won't get mad!

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OMG it was amazing. Cheesy I know, but hey, you need cheese for IJ

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But not... that cheesey

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I've seen worse. Atleast they had lots of cool interweaved with the cheese. I mean the ending did afterall feel pretty awesome, but that's just my opinion. I think the director did a great job of it all though, despite the writing being a bit unusual.

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Posted: 25th May 2008 05:40 Edited at: 25th May 2008 05:40
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The car chase was awesome with the spinning blades that flew off the forest cutter vehicele. I loved that scene and the majority of the moveie( except for aliens). I would have believed a resurrected mummy or something but aliens and indians together doesn't cut it for me.

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I just saw it tonight, and I have to agree with everything you said Dink. That pretty much summed up my impressions of it lol.

Do you guys think that Shia LaBeouf is going to become the next Indy? Do they have more movies lined up?

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It was a well done movie but the storyline was terrible, which unfortunately for me pushed it down to "bad movie" status. I really tried to like it when the first introduced the
concept, but it just fell apart at the middle to end :/ .

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Posted: 25th May 2008 11:31 Edited at: 25th May 2008 11:32
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Well I think I'll give my opinion, I saw it at the cinema yesterday. Basically I thought it was plopsy.

Warning signals started to sound when:


I didn't like how Jones was not so much a human on a dangerous adventure, as more of an indestructable superhero on a comical voyage through the land that time forgot. I mean who can


Not forgetting the other "Yeah right!" moments like


I did like the plot, but the execution was poor in my opinion.

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Posted: 25th May 2008 12:03 Edited at: 25th May 2008 12:03
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I thought it was very entertaining, but disliked the inclusion of
a great deal. It was a good film, but it didn't feel like Indiana Jones.
CGI? What?


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It was set in the 1950's, the heydey of
, so it doesn't seem out of place to me. I thought the
were as fantastical as that giant chest thing from the Bible; the lost ark or whatever. No more far fetched.

I think they took a brave step and it's fine. There would be complaints if it was just another Nazi / Bible artifact storyline.

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Posted: 25th May 2008 13:27 Edited at: 25th May 2008 13:30
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The ark, temple and grail stuff managed to be intriguing and scary without going ridiculously huge and far-out. I mean, subtlety and doubt and such were prominent themes in the original films. Now they decide "sod it" and jump the shark with you-know-what. I mean, they could have gotten away with


Besides that, there are too many f*ck off moments and bits of useless fanservice. I find it implausible that
Then there's the whole


Besides these qualms, it was enjoyable. A great film; just not a great Indy film.

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Fair qualms, absolutely.

They have the difficult task of taking an old fashioned action franchise and making it meet the new expectations of a generation of viewers who are seasoned to ridiculous CG set pieces.

So, what they found is a kind of middle ground. Yes, it's OTT. So were the other films, except they were limited by what could be done practically.

It's certainly not old indie, and I do LOVE practical effects, but this isn't the 80's anymore, sadly.

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A few of the things like I said were pardonable, like
That sorta felt Indy to me even if it was slightly ridiculous.

Now, I'd be worried Shia LeBeouf was gonna be the next Indy if they
Guess I'm not ready for the mantle to be passed down yet

About the whole plot


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They'll never replace Harrison Ford

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I think Indy VI was just a film screaming.."I HAVE CGI! WHOO! Look at my awesomeness." And what happens when that happens? The writers go over the top with unnecessary stuff. Where I loved the old Indy films with supernatural and cool stuff in it, and the whole idea of
let it down for me. I'm not a major fan of
, so when I seen it I was going, "Wait! This isn't Indy!" Its like they made a Indy film first then they forgot that they was making it and started productions on a new ET film.


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I think in the 21st century people expect fancy graphics and stuff. Now I've never seen the other Indy films, so I don't know how to compare this one to the old ones, but comparing it to other films, I know it's OTT, but it looks as if it's supposed to me. I mean
was almost intentionally supposed to be ridiculous. The ending too was waaaayyy OTT, but I enjoyed it. You can't deny that
is cool!

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Posted: 25th May 2008 18:16
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People need to be more careful when writing spoilers about films. Due to a couple of peoples carelessness its ruined it for me.

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Quote: "People need to be more careful when writing spoilers about films. Due to a couple of peoples carelessness its ruined it for me."


Or you could try not clicking on the thread? Seriously, if you didn't want to know about the movie, why did you come here? We can't have a thread about the movie, without talking about the movie. Not everything can be done in code tags.

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I wanted to read peoples opinion on the film without them blatantly pointing out the plot. It was written at the top of the thread to keep spoilers in code tags and people should have the decency to do so.

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It's your fault for coming to this thread man. Don't see how you could come here NOT expecting to find out things about it.

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It may be partly my fault for clicking on this thread, but i guess i just thought people were more considerate...

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^^ Indy dies.

Anyways, I saw this with some coworkers on Friday and I thought this movie was awful. It had such a good buildup, but the very first scene with the
the red lights went off in my head. "Oh, crap, Lucas has started already"

Also, Spielberg and Lucas are flat-out liars. They said in an interview a while back that they were getting back to the basics of Indy, and they were going to have no CG.


Argh, so disappointed.


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Oolite... Come on man, you can't be serious. Listen to yourself, you sound daft.

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I liked it. It wasn't nearly what I thought it would be though.

Some things about it were ridiculous, like the
and the
, but I thought the ending with the
was pretty sweet, who cares if it was Indiana Jones-ish. I thought the inclusion of
was out of place. It kinda ruined the history part of the movies, and went too scifi. I laughed out loud during the
.

Overall, it was enjoyable. It reminded me alot of Live Free or Die Hard in that
.

EDIT:

In regards to the
, I'm about to make a prediction that the next Indiana Jones movie will be called
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Yeah, continue with the insults sid, thats going to help you...

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You fail sir.

In other news, I had to lol at this: http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080524/121164924000.html

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Nice mature comment, grow up.

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Guys take it to email or IM. You're both acting childish now. Take it out of my thread or I'll request you be removed. Thanks.

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I agree with Oolite (though the discussion is getting a little childish), I stumble upon movie threads to see what people think of what they've watched - there may be spoilers inside, but I don't think I've encountered spoilers that haven't had **SPOILER** put by them, or been put in code brackets for this forum or have a good enough warning. People do tend to be more considerate when posting about new movies.

Though clicking on these sort of threads can be a risk, which is why I'm sure the original poster put 'code snippet' as a general rule.

Having not seen Indie 4, I've been keeping an eye on this thread to find out all of the reactions to it and have avoided the nicely placed 'code snippets'.

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Well, Deathead pretty much missed a code tag and thus spoiled it for me a bit as well. Ah well.


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I like the movie a lot. It was really good. And Shia LaBeouf was awesome in the movie. But the movie was insanely cheesey lol. It was like a new level of cheese.

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I liked the movie. People who saw the movie with me said there was no over the top magical stuff in the originals, thankfully for me I knew that was a flat out lie. Because in the originals they had
. All sorts of stuff. Now I think they went the way that they went was because of the kind of stuff people are interested in today and what scared the heck out of people in the time the movie was set. I though the end where
was so awesome! However other might. If you are trying to figure out if you should go see it by what other people say then you should just not bother going to any movie. You need to make up your own mind or go grab yourself a fruit roll-up and go watch power rangers.

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Having aliens in the movie is NOT a spoiler. I've seen it promoted with the film, and even in a trailer. Grow some thick skin, people.


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Quote: "Having aliens in the movie is NOT a spoiler. I've seen it promoted with the film, and even in a trailer. Grow some thick skin, people."


Thus the:

Quote: "go grab yourself a fruit roll-up and go watch power rangers."



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Quote: "Well, Deathead pretty much missed a code tag and thus spoiled it for me a bit as well. Ah well."

Don't blame me for your spoilt film, look above my post 5 or 4 posters done it aswell as me.


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Quote: "Don't blame me for your spoilt film, look above my post 5 or 4 posters done it aswell as me."


You don't have to defend yourself Deathead. They knew what they were getting into when they clicked on this thread. If they wanted movie reviews, they could have gone else where.

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No. Take the extra half of a second and put spoilers in tags.

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Whoa, I agree with ionstream. It's like saying don't leave your house because you could get hit by a car. Stuff like that happens outdoors, you know.

Maybe they got advertized in the US/Canada campaign, all I've seen is some communists and indie putting on his hat. Even if they are in the trailers over there, it would be kind of respectful to just put stuff in code tags for those who don't know - like, the rest of the world.


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Quote: "Maybe they got advertized in the US/Canada campaign, all I've seen is some communists and indie putting on his hat. Even if they are in the trailers over there, it would be kind of respectful to just put stuff in code tags for those who don't know - like, the rest of the world."


How are we supposed to magically know what is or is not in your trailers? Besides, I really don't think they would change the trailers just because its in another country. The one and only exception would be language changes of course, other than that they should be the same.

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By the way Indy is
who gets
because
are out to
him.

Is that better, tha_rami? Not sure if those facts were included in your country's trailers or not


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Quote: "By the way Indy is Code Snippet


who gets Code Snippet



because Code Snippet



are out to Code Snippet



him. "


Haha, that made me laugh, its too spoiler free.

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That'd be fine by me, so that people could be able to get decent criticism of a movie without having key parts revealed.

As long as we're playing madlibs,

Indy is a
who gets
because
are out to
him.

By the way that took all of 10 seconds to select each word and hit the code button.

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HAHAHA!!!
Ionstream? is indy aint a lawyer is he? and why do zombie robots want to massage him?

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Yes, Jeku. Much better. Thanks. Although you might've code-boxed out the name of the main character too. You spoilt it!

@Osiris:
Quote: "How are we supposed to magically know what is or is not in your trailers? Besides, I really don't think they would change the trailers just because its in another country. The one and only exception would be language changes of course, other than that they should be the same."

You think wrong and precisely because you do not know, you should be careful.


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Quote: "I really don't think they would change the trailers just because its in another country."


Well i haven't seen them in the UK version

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Not that I remember, what makes you think that?

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To be fair still, if a thread is talking about a movie - the clickers aren't going to immediately know if there's going to be spoilers slipped away, whenever I talk about a movie, or when I've seen people talk about a movie they take the courtesy to say: this is a spoiler. As to be frank, not every clicker is going to have seen it and will want to see what people think about it. (Reading a review ISN'T always a solution, reviews often big up stuff that isn't usually good - some write a good review because they're paid to, I personally prefer to hear what normal people think who have seen it.)

I've always found it common courtesy when talking about something, to watch what you say. Not everybody carries that courtesy of course and that's when people can be annoyed, as when talking to somebody, before I read a certain Harry Potter book said, "I was really surprised when x died", when I asked if it was any good, which spoiled it. It's annoying to find people who spoil things without a thought, but lets be honest a lot of people do annoying things and have little quirks we think are obvious and they don't, so though I agree, it's still not a big deal and it's the world we live in. I know the first poster put a request in for 'code snippets' for spoilers, but you know, it's not the end of the world, even if I would have preferred to not know that piece of information, like I'd prefer not to know who the bad guys will be in the new series of 24 and the fact 'x' has happened ('x' has happened was conveniently put into the trailer) and I'd preferred not to know who died in a certain Harry Potter. But it's not really a big deal.

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Conveniently though, a lot of big reviews talk about the fact that there are
parts,
connections, and some flat out say there are
. So it doesn't seem like we're giving up more info than any normal review you'd read in the paper.

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