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DarkBASIC Discussion / Response to Ian M.

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iron programmer
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Posted: 27th May 2008 00:39
Sir, I understand this should not be a public debate, but I do not have a email of my own. I use my friend's adress to log on. Yes, he knows about it. Yes, I did read the Team Request page the first time. I regard your ruling that my "progress" is not to your liking as another way to lock my posts. I retreat at this battle here, but whereas you won the battle, I hope that it does not turn into a war. My requests for a team end here.

Sincerely,
A Retreating Programmer

P.S.- Censor the request page.
Libervurto
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Posted: 27th May 2008 02:43
@Ian M
since I'm guessing you'll be reading this thread :p
where are those team request rules? I could only find them by following your link.

Personally i think team requests should have their own board and every new thread would have to be approved before any normal members could even read it.
I think it would declutter the other boards, help people who are serious and make your job easier too.

It is far better to complete a 10 line program than to start a 10,000 line program.
iron programmer
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Posted: 27th May 2008 03:00
I agree with OBese87.
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Posted: 27th May 2008 03:30
P.S.- Censor the request page

Wow I thought. Better check that out. Bad language on the page is certainly not acceptable and it needs to be reported immediately.

So I checked out the page Ian linked to and read what was on there.

Then I read it again... and again.

OK, I give up.

Exactly what is it on that page which is so offensive that kids cannot read it and requires censoring?

TDK_Man

Sinani201
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Posted: 27th May 2008 03:32
Me too, like on the TGPF board.
However, I think there should be some exceptions to the rules. If you're a modeler, and not a programmer, then it should change. That's one of the rules for team requesting on TDK's boards, if you're a modeler, then you get in, as long as you show the models you've made, showing progress.


The bottom half of your signature was erased by a mod because it involved Kirby.
iron programmer
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Posted: 27th May 2008 04:19
TDK, this is what needs censoring!

It's under "Drop the company crap" Headline.
No, the word I'm talking about is not crap. It is the "D"-Word, which swears in my opinion.

Also, the first point under "How to get people on your side".
The "J-A" word swears in my opinion too.
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Posted: 27th May 2008 04:39
Quote: "Personally i think team requests should have their own board and every new thread would have to be approved before any normal members could even read it."


They removed the team request forums for a reason, and if they'd put them back up, all the new fpsc and db users will want to start their own "team" and make a thread, only to get flamed.

now you're whining because your team request got locked and you dont seem to understand why. Do you really think people actually get exxcited when they read "this is another zombie game, and it's 2d, and i need many people to make it for me"...

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=team_requests

Your signature has not been erased by a mod... yet...
Libervurto
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Posted: 27th May 2008 04:47
@Lucifer
your point is exactly why i think there should be an APPROVAL only board.
and it wasn't my team request btw

It is far better to complete a 10 line program than to start a 10,000 line program.
iron programmer
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Posted: 27th May 2008 05:20
Lucifer, I think that you're whining about whining.
iron programmer
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Posted: 27th May 2008 05:26
P.S.-Lucifer, it sounds like you learned from experience.
IanM
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Posted: 27th May 2008 15:39
@iron programmer,

Quote: "I regard your ruling that my "progress" is not to your liking as another way to lock my posts"

*Sigh*
I like team requests. I want to see more team requests. I don't think we see enough. But... there is a minimum requirement, otherwise we get a proliferation of team requests containing one or two lines of text, filled with flames from forum lawyers who have nothing better to do - in exactly the same way we had when we did have a dedicated team request forum.

I'm not locking your posts because you posted them. I'm locking team request posts because they don't meet the very simple requirements on the team request page - I hope you see the distinction.

@OBese87,
We've been there, done that, flushed it down the toilet.

Someone can post a minimal team request in a few minutes, tying up a moderator for those same few minutes. Now multiply that up by 10, 20 or 50 a day from excited new users, and you are tying up a moderator for a large portion of their own time - Now, remembering we're unpaid volunteers, what mod is going to spend even an hour of their day reading through posts in which they have absolutely no interest, knowing they'll have the exact same task tomorrow and every day from that point? One or two maybe, but even as few as 10?

Now consider what we have now - easy-to-follow and explicit rules, where all you really need to do to be allowed to post a team request is show that you are serious about your project, are willing to do what it takes and can prove it.

Then look at that from my point of view. I see a post every few days or so. I open it and within a minute I can make one of two decisions - I can either lock it after posting a link to the team requests page, or I can post an OK and leave it - Most of the time it's really obvious which is which as soon as the page has loaded.

I know which I prefer, and no offense meant to iron programmer, but that's what I saw and still see after reviewing the posts.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 15:43
Quote: "It is the "D"-Word, which swears in my opinion."

But the "D-Word" is also a name

Lee Bamber - Blame Beer

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