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Crimson Night
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First game i've tried making on x10, and I get an error whenever i try and build it - could someone please check it out and help me correct whatever's wrong with it?
It runs in 'test game' mosde 100% fine...
I was going to post this in the bug's forum but it said v1 only, so I hope this was the right place
Obviously the level is nowhere near finished, just wanted to see how what i've made so far runs...
Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated!

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What error do you get?


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Don't think it said one specifically, I've attached the map file if u could pls check it out?

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You said it displayed an error, so it must have come up with something, the program doesn't just fail for no reason.


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Just tried building it again, and all it says is "this application has encountered a problem and needs to close. If this problem persists, please upload and FMP level to the FPS bug forum..." etc - the error seems to happen at the 'saving and optimising universe' bit

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 15:29 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 15:32
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Quote: "If this problem persists, please upload and FMP level to the FPS bug forum."


Does this map have any custom media in it?

Check your file permissions where the built game is being written.
If the permissions aren't right then it may be causing it to fail.

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no, i might have used one floor segment from a model pack, but apart from that it's pretty basic atm - and i'm writing to my desktop as an administrator, so that shouldn't be a problem - can u see any problems with the map itself?

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sry don't know hot to edit, i meant 'official model pack' although it might be from x9, not sure - but i thought there were only problems with entities, not segments anyway, and like i said, it runs 100% fine in test mode...

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 16:09 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 16:18
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Quote: "sry don't know hot to edit"

Look to the far left of your post. See User Name?
Now look below that. See Joined? Location?
Now look below that. See an Edit Post link?
There you go.


Quote: "i might have used one floor segment from a model pack, but apart from that it's pretty basic atm "

Well, that makes testing inacurate if we do not have that model pack.
Even if the program ignores the missing file; we are not testing the same conditions that exist in your build.

Remove any custom media and try it again.
If it works, then you have a clue as to what it causing the problem; the media.
If you still have bugs, then it would be a map that we can test too.

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replaced the segment with prison gantry and tried again, but still the same error in the same place, i've have uploaded this version as it contains only core componants so there won't be any conflict during testing - please let me know what u find - thanks a lot

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Dude, why do you have Parentheses ( ) in your file name?

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just 'cause i saved it separetly to my main level (one posted originally) - short for 'prison gantry'

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 16:45 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 16:52
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Well I took that off and the underscore too, and used factory.fpm like the first download.

I just tested the game twice (I fell in that hole 1st time) and then built it with no errors.

I am going to test the built game now.

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Works great on this end, so I don't know what to tell you other than USER ERROR!

Quote: "First game i've tried making on x10"

Are you selecting a NEW NAME when you build?
Did you make sure that you had your map selected for the build?
What Texture settings did you use?

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 16:52 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 16:55
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Thank you! it's really weird that it's not building for me then, just tried building 'simple' again to confrim that the building process does normally work for me - what do u thinks going wrong?
oh do u mean the hole from the top way? yeah sorry, that's where the level's going to continue from, lucky I did try building now though, as i may have ended up wasting even more of my time T_T

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yep, called it 'Factory.exe' for now - kept that name when testing simple again and it works 100% fine
and yep, selected the map (tried both versions now ofc) - i'm relitively experienced as i've been using x9 until a few days ago...
texture settings = best/high (just got a new pc, which i bought purposely for x10 >.< ) and same as before, those settings work 100% fine for simple, and in test mode...

Thanks for testing it for me!

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 17:03 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 17:04
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Quote: " i'm relitively experienced as i've been using x9 "

Ok then you know what you are doing when building.

Quote: "and same as before, those settings work 100% fine for simple"

This is very strange.

Quote: "Thanks for testing it for me!"

Sorry I couldn't help.

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Its just really frustrating ya know, as i've been saving up for a pc good enough since i heard about x10; and now i finally have everything, there's no garentee any of the games I make are actually going to build T_T
Thank you so much for your help - if anyone else has any other ideas, i'd love to hear them!

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 17:23 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 17:25
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One more thing....try another simple map that you create.
Make it just one small room, and then build it.

I am curious if your editor can build anything other than the simple map.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 18:29 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 18:30
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What are your PC specs because you have not posted them yet. I know Conjured Entertainment has been doing a great job trying to help you but this is something you really tell us especially video card make and model and driver version and Direct X version.
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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 19:07 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 19:08
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Here are my specs - although I got my pc like 2 days ago, I have updated a few of the drivers, inc directx...

Processor(s)

Processor 1
Name: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor
Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
Caption: x64 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3
Version: Model 2, Stepping 3
Processor Id: 178BFBFF00100F23
Current Clock Speed: 1150MHz
Address Width: 32Bits
Data Width: 64Bits
Socket Designation: CPU 1
Verified Hardware Device against Order: CPU-2.30AMD9650

Case Color: Alienware P2 Chassis Silver


System Memory

Memory Module 1
Capacity: 0MB
Bank Label: DIMM #1
Mem_Type: DDR2
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Memory Module 2
Capacity: 1024MB
Bank Label: Module format Regular UDIMM
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Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-DDR21GBPC64QME
Memory Module 3
Capacity: 0MB
Bank Label: DIMM #2
Mem_Type: DDR2
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Memory Module 4
Capacity: 1024MB
Bank Label: Module format Regular UDIMM
Mem_Type
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-DDR21GBPC64QME
Memory Module 5
Capacity: 0MB
Bank Label: DIMM #3
Mem_Type: DDR2
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Memory Module 6
Capacity: 512MB
Bank Label: Module format Regular UDIMM
Mem_Type
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-DDR2512PC64QM
Memory Module 7
Capacity: 0MB
Bank Label: DIMM #4
Mem_Type: DDR2
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Memory Module 8
Capacity: 512MB
Bank Label: Module format Regular UDIMM
Mem_Type
Mem_Frequency: 802 MHz
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-DDR2512PC64QM

BIOS Information

Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
Name: BIOS Date: 03/20/08 Ver: 08.00.14
Version: 1002
Version: ALWARE - 20080320

Motherboard Information

Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product: M3A32-MVP DELUXE
Serial Number: -
Version: Rev 1.xx
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MB-ASUSM32A32-MVPDLX

Video Adapter

Caption: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Adapter RAM: 512MB
DriverVersion: 7.15.11.7416
Verified Hardware Device against Order: VID-EVG9600GT512MBOC

Hard Drive(s)

ST3500630AS ATA Device
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Size: 500GB
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Total Cylinders: 60801
Total Tracks: 15504255
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Optical Drives / Other Storage

HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N ATA Device
Verified Hardware Device against Order: STR-LG20XGSAH55NDVD

Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium


DirectX Version: 10


Assembler Initials: ff


Tester Initials: AI


Test Date: 05/23/2008 03:35 PM


Burn-In/Benchmarks

3DMark 2006
Customer Information:
3DMark Score: 10,730.00 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score: 4,415.00
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 4,736.00
CPU Score: 3,177.00
Game Score: 0.00 Points
SM2.0 Graphics Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon: 36.35 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest: 37.23 FPS
CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley: 1.06 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley: 1.53 FPS
HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
HDR1 - Canyon Flight: 48.24 FPS
HDR2 - Deep Freeze: 46.48 FPS
Doom 3
Doom 3: 133.3 fps

IRQ Configuration

0 System timer
1 -available-
2 -available-
3 -available-
4 Communications Port (COM1)
5 -available-
6 -available-
7 -available-
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 -available-
10 -available-
11 -available-
12 -available-
13 Numeric data processor
14 ATA Channel 0
15 ATA Channel 1
16 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
16 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
17 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
18 Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
18 NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
18 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
19 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
19 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
21 Killer NIC Gaming Adapter
22 AGERE OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
22 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
190 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System

Miscellaneous

SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Device Name: SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Description: SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Class: MEDIA
Service: ADIHdAudAddService
Driver Version: 6.10.1.6260
Driver Date: 7-11-2007
Vendor Id: 11D4
Device Id: 198B
Revision: 1004
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Killer NIC Gaming Adapter
Device Name: Killer NIC Gaming Adapter
Description: Killer NIC Gaming Adapter
Class: System
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Driver Version: 3.1.3.0
Driver Date: 10-6-2007
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Device Id: 0086
Revision: 0011
IRQ Number: 21
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reinstall DirectX 10 March 2008, and upadate your Video drivers to Forcwares 175.16 and then try and run your map

DirectX10
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10-a.aspx

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http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
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ARGH!!!
I have spent all afternoon making another game (this time arena) - and good news is that it built fine (tried the other one again, but still no luck T_T) - but now the built game doesn't seem to load properly, the loading bar gets to green but never seems to get any further T_T

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 01:22 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2008 01:24
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I tested your map from above also and it works fine for me also, do have X9 installed on your PC as well as X10, if so what order were they installed, you can also try reinstalling the DirectX 10 version that is on your FPSC X10 DVD and reinstall FPSC X10 also then update it to 1.08, just save your new map. Your PC specs look good you should not have any problems running X10, it could also be a sound card driver or somthing silly like that giving you the problems as well, my PC is similar to your I just have a Phenom 9850 and a Geforce 9800 GTX
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Thanks a lot for testing my map - I recieved my PC only a few days ago, and all I have done is update my drivers - i only have x10 on this pc.
I tried uninstalling/reinstalling everything but still no luck T_T
Could u please do me a massive favour and try building the (arena) map I spent all afternoon making to see if it runs on yours?
(for some reason the fog colour won't seem to save as being green not blue when underwater?)

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Your arena map works fine on my PC.

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You mean this error?

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 12:15 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2008 18:19
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Thanks a lot for testing it for me, but this isn't good news about my PC then T_T What should I do..?

Silver, yeah, thats the exact screenshot I get when trying to build the first game I posted, but 'Alien Arena' builds fine, it just seems to freeze when loading up for me...

Thanks guys for all your help so far, I really hope we can get something sorted!!!

*EDIT* - The plot thickens Been making an arena today, using only basic WW2 segments/entities - this time I got the same error in the same place ('saving and optimising universe') but this time when testing, not even building! Well, just out of curiosity, i took out the two 'window grand' segments i placed in the level, and it tested fine - how weird is that?
Why is this software so damn temprimental? I'm only using 2 basic segments, and 2 enties (door/windows) and it managed to even screw that up! I found x9 just as bad, thats why I reguarly save and test now...
Sry, i know it's really annoying when people whine, it's just increadably frustrating...

*EDIT 2* - How do you edit light colour/range for arena maps?

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any ideas guys?

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Hi all,

this is my first forum message in tgc but i have x10 since it came out and i like it allot.
But like all of the others i am also experiencing some bugs here and there.
But i would like to comment on this post in particular becuz me too have this problem with the test map ability.
And i tried a few things and it seems that i only get that error in v1.08 when i reinstall fpsc x10 and only update to 1.01 it work just fine again.
But i also noticed in v1.01 when i go in fpsc x10 the desktop instantly give me the pop up saying that the windows switched in basic mode instead of aeroglass.
So that means the dreamscene also shuts down of just freezes it so fpsc x10 can run properly.
While in v1.08 it does not even give me the pop up warning and loading the test map takes a very long time and always crashes at the saving and optimising point of the load bar.
With the error just saying fpsc had to close for a error report bug to forum.
So my guess is that the v1.08 has some bug that the other version did not had in the past.
Anyway i hope that give u guys a clue in how this bug may occur.
My system specs are dated but not crap

Vista Ultimate x86
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ @ 2.4 gig
2 gig ram in dual channel
8800 gts 320mb

PS: in v1.01 the test game runs very smooth and good in v1.08 it went very laggy in graphical terms then but most of the times i never got it run in test on v1.08

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