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Dark GDK / I don't get darkGDK....

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Mew151
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 01:34
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I try searching for tutorials but i can't find anything! and the tutorials that come with it aren't good. (It goes from hello world pictures to 3-D objects) please help me....

ow! that hurt!
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Bishop
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 03:43
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Yes, the tutorials start with "Hello World" but this is mainly to get you familiar with the coding style and to make sure you can compile.

Here is printing hello world:


and here is a basic 3d object loading:


These are as simple as it gets. If you are having difficulty with the basic tutorials shipped with DarkGDK, then I would suggest you learn C++ first.


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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 04:34
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Quote: "
I try searching for tutorials but i can't find anything! and the tutorials that come with it aren't good.
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Ah the blessings of being a savant.
To know that the Tutorials arn't any good on the very day you join the forum. it took me weeks of reading and studying to conclude that the tutorials that come with the system showed all of the basic progrqmming elements needed to create a basic game.

Perhaps TGC would please invent a system that would allow for all knowlege to be passed from the USB port directly into the brain, skipping the effort part

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 09:05
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Yeah. Where do we plug this thing in?

*holds up a wicked looking cord*

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unitech
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 19:18 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2008 19:18
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Dgdk is a port for c++ programmers, if you're not a c++ programmer stick with FPSC or DBPRO. IF you want to learn c++, go here. http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ then come see us in a year.
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Zuka
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 21:52
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I learned almost everything I need to know to use Dark GDK in about a month.

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Lilith
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:07
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Quote: "I learned almost everything I need to know to use Dark GDK in about a month."


That long, eh?

Seriously, I try to learn what I can from whatever documentation is available on almost any computer related undertaking I do. However, anxiety takes over and I just have to dig in and try things. The docs are there as a reference but there's nothing like getting your hands virtually dirty to get to know a system.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:18 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2008 22:18
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Quote: "I learned almost everything I need to know to use Dark GDK in about a month."
- Not C++ you didnt. Maybe some syntax, or function calls. But wait till the game catches up with you. You better have a ID management class, and a good understand of how to build classes. I'm not suggesting you know, or dont know what you think you know. I'm saying c++ is not something you learn in a month, period.
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jason p sage
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:35 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2008 22:35
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This is the biggest tutorial you'll find...sorta.... LOL:

http://code.google.com/p/darkgdkoop/

36000+ lines, 20+ demo/tutorials - You have 1 WEEK!


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:36
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(helps when you give the guy the url...oops...)

http://code.google.com/p/darkgdkoop/


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:44
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Quote: "- Not C++ you didnt. "


I'll have to agree with you on that. With C++ it took me at least two years to get up the nerve to open the book. I was teaching C at the time and it took me that long to consider trying to tackle C++. When I did I read as far as I could before becoming disenchanted with my ability to put it all together. I laid off for about a year and started to re-read it. A lot of the earlier stuff became clear because I was now learning it in relationship to a larger view of the language. It was easier to see why things were done the way they were and why it was significant.

My advice, skim the documentation for content. Then read it for comprehension.

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unitech
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 22:59
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Oh, and a triumph that is. Unlearning C to pick up C++ I here is not an easy chore contrary to popular belief . For me I had to go to C++ from Quick Basic. Fortunately I was in school a the time. My teacher was good, damn good. yet that was a 6 moth introduction to c++. Then c++ 2, and advanced... Lets see oh in two months I did to a hello world, and created a few classes.. Then Link Lists and pointers decided to come in to my life.. Damn I love this stuff....
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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 04:23
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If you got here via DB Pro and use GDK as an dialect of that you can learn the basic syntax of C++ in a fairly short time. I am by no means talking about a full understanding of C++ but simple substitution of the "if" , "or" "else" etc. Although I use the class structures in a simplistic way when Jason and Lilith are talking about some of the more subtle applications of the language they really are talking Greek to me.

Jason and Lilith Please do not take that as a criticism. I use it as a way to further my knowlege base

All the best and still learning

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Quote: "when Jason and Lilith are talking about some of the more subtle applications of the language they really are talking Greek to me.
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Wow!!! I've never spoken Greek before.

Truth to tell, although I'm comfortable with C++, there are a lot more advanced things that I either can't wrap my mind around or found a need to do so. When I look at some source code from other people it boggles my mind just how obfuscated it looks.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 06:21
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I'm not exaggerating or anything. I'm an incredibly fast learner, don't treat me like that.

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jason p sage
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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 06:43
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Thanx Codger. Lilith is one of my fav's on here because of that - Though there are alot people on here who know their stuff.. here are some, and if I didn't name ya don't get mad - I'm VERY tired:

(Lilith of Course ), DavidW, IanM, VanB, Visigoth, JinZai, UniCoder, DarkCoder, um.... Oh Duh - Benjamin, Micheal P, Lost In Thought, Evolved, TempIceK, SidSinister, Alquerian, TDK, CattleRustler, Cash Curtis II, and more I know.... like you Codger - I've seen you help quite a few during my peeks at the forums.

Depending on the time or place (here and all the time) - they all can baffle me


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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 14:59
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Pff, I don't know much of anything, I suppose.

Or more likely I just don't make enough posts for you to remember! Either way it's chill, I don't need to be on your list.

Relevant to the topic, I learned Borland's Turbo-C++ when I was 7 years old, on an ancient workstation in my basement, and I did it without books or teachers, only some very basic example programs. Of course, that was the days of DOS.


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LOL - 7 years old? DOS? My guess would be that if there was an official list - you'd be on it!


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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 20:47 Edited at: 4th Jun 2008 20:49
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Well SunDawg Dont feel bad, I used to be on his list. Ever since I ran in to rear view mirror troubles I dont get mentioned much Funny I start with Basic and tubo pascal when i was 8. Maybe he secretly is against the ones that start early.

Quote: "DOS?"
- No, cartage basic.. My dad would not let me play with dos, he said "DOS.. Dos, heap powerful medicine. Stay away".
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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 21:11 Edited at: 4th Jun 2008 21:32
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I was making good looking sites in HTML, Javascript, and PHP when I was 6... they weren't the brightest sites, they didn't use CSS or anything...

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@Unitech -
Quote: "Well SunDawg Dont feel bad, I used to be on his list. Ever since I ran in to rear view mirror troubles I dont get mentioned much Funny I start with Basic and tubo pascal when i was 8. "


You are in the list - I just spelled your name wrong, UniCoder! (my mistake) LOL

Quote: "Maybe he secretly is against the ones that start early."
Just the ones who started younger than me - 10years old.

@Zuka - edit your post.. remove number from it. Trust me... just do it.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 21:27 Edited at: 4th Jun 2008 21:31
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Zuka, dude being 7 in the 21 century is not like being 7 in the 80d's LOL... Though your off to a good path and nice career stick with it.


JP, you know I thought uniCoder was me LOL..

Quote: "@Zuka - edit your post.. remove number from it. Trust me... just do it."
--Oops I guess that just froze his post. considering any one can do that math
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LOL on all counts


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Quote: "Maybe he secretly is against the ones that start early."


Anyone know what early was? Commodore Pet, maybe? My first computer was an Altair 8800, soldered together by myself and coded with front panel switches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800

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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 22:50 Edited at: 4th Jun 2008 22:52
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Oh ya I remember that thing, granted I didnt use it, but my father had one.. He used to play some fun binary games on it ( Find The Bit) or something. .. Lilith showed his age....
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Posted: 4th Jun 2008 22:54 Edited at: 4th Jun 2008 22:59
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Quote: "Lilith showed his age...."


You keep calling me "him/his" and I'm going to sic Jason's wife on you.

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Quote: "My first computer was an Altair 8800"


Ok.. you win! My first peu-peu was a Timex Sinclair with 2k ram.
Cassette tape (no punch cards LOL) for a "diskdrive"

Quote: "You keep calling me "him/his" and I'm going to sic Jason's wife on you."


LOL

(Notice I've been trying to say Folks versus "guys" ...usually )


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Quote: "My first peu-peu was a Timex Sinclair with 2k ram.
Cassette tape (no punch cards LOL) for a "diskdrive""


Peu-peu???

No punch cards for me either, just a paper tape reader until I moved up to a cassette drive and finally an external floppy drive.

I still have the thing up in the attic and maybe one day I'll bring it down to see if it still powers up. I used to have an IMSAI that I eventually gave to a friend to convert into a coffee table/conversation piece.

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Uhh, I'm only on my second computer...

My first computer was a Dell... uhh... hold on, its in the garage...

Dell Dimension 8100.

I'm on an 8200 right now...

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Ok I can't stand it anymore if were on my beginings were humbler than yours

When I was a lad a computer was a PERSON who did calculations

My 1st computer was a slide rule after I gave up on the Abacus

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My bad Lilith sir, mam.. Most women would not touch a computer prior to 90 let alone use one? Heck my mother would not go near it.. though she though it was cool that hitting the back space would actually erase the letter...However, sex is irrelevant..
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Quote: "sex is irrelevant"


Depends on the context.

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Quote: "My 1st computer was a slide rule after I gave up on the Abacus"


I tried the abacus but it was too complicated for me. My family spent two years in Japan when I was a kid and we happened to live right across the street from a school where I'd see the kids there clicking away on their abacii (is that correct?).

I still have my slide rule somewhere. I put it away when my C students refused to try to understand how to use it.

Okay, I made up the part about the students.

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Quote: "Depends on the context. "


Now Now,, - lets not go there. Let's play by the forum rules.. Wait are there any in this sort of context?
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Forum rules? I was playing by them. The Roman Forum, that is.

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Quote: "Forum rules? I was playing by them.The Roman Forum, that is. "
Then were is all the justice and administration ...
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