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Geek Culture / Dead iPod 30GB Video

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Veron
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 21:11
Hey guys,

My god damn 30GB iPod video just died about an hour ago - I walked into the bathroom about to have a shower, and i'm listening to a song. I put the iPod on the ironing board, and have the headphones in my ears still. I've done this loads of times before, and nothing has happened.

Well, long story short, the iPod fell off the ironing board and hit the tiled floor hard. It had turned itself off, so I turned it back on, and danced for joy when it turned back on.... with no battery left, but the battery had been full before I dropped it.

2 seconds later it died without saying the usual low battery warning, and as I shook the iPod I could hear a little part moving around inside. Hooked it up to the charger - nothing. It's dead.

What I want/need to know is what could be wrong with it? A dead battery? Broken hard drive? If anyone could advise me on what's wrong with it, and how to fix it/where to fix it, i'd love you for life.

Thanks!


Jimmy
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 21:51
Fixed!

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Anonymous User
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 22:04
Under warranty?

???
bitJericho
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 22:09
Warranties don't cover accidental dropping


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Big Man
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 23:17
@ jimmy...lol! yea the reason it broke is cos its apple

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Destrugter 1
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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 23:23
There is a relatively simple thing to do to make sure this problem doesn't happen again...you simply go to the nearest electronics store and purchase a Zune, then you throw the ipod away...problem solved!

How does this solve the problem you ask...as stated above, your ipod is apple and the Zune isn't!

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Posted: 21st Jun 2008 23:28
Ha! Little do you all know that the Zune sucks as weeeellllllll!

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 00:11 Edited at: 22nd Jun 2008 00:12
Quote: "Little do you all know that the Zune sucks as weeeellllllll!"


No we all know the Zune sucks (except for Destrugter 1 who seems to think the Zune is impervious to damage from being dropped )...

@Veron
If you've knocked the battery lose or damaged a connection you may be able to fix it by opening it up yourself... My friend did something similar and found a couple of websites which walk you through the process of opening up your iPod...

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 00:30
The Zune is so much better then the Ipod...

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 00:37
Quote: "The Zune is so much better then the Ipod..."

anything is beter than the ipod cos u dont have to put up with stupid itunes the whole time and there arent many other mp3 players that are so overly priced

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 01:51 Edited at: 22nd Jun 2008 01:52
Quote: "The Zune is so much better then the Ipod..."


I think the iPod is an excellent mp3 player... One thing that I find really funny is that people assume you HAVE to use iTunes to use an iPod and that is simply not true... There are many free and some commercial apps that enable to use your iPod without iTunes... One of which even lets you use a MAC formatted iPod on your Windows PC...

Many seem to think the iPod is over priced but as I have yet to have one break on me I'm happy to pay a bit more for build quality... My friends have bought cheaper mp3 players (Zune included)and have all had to replace them while my original iPod is still going strong... The only reason I upgraded my iPod was because I wanted the touch...

I have also yet to find an mp3 which has as good an interface as the iPod either...

I get really good sound from the headphones, no distortion at higher volumes... it even pauses the music when the headphone jack is removed from the iPod...

Anyway I would like to hear your reasons as to why you think the Zune is so much better than the iPod... unless of course your reasons are 'liek Zune ttly pwns ipods cause i sed so u noob'

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 02:33
I couldn't agree with thraxas anymore.


Veron
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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 05:51
Gah, I just rang an Apple store in the city and they said the hard drive has been broken, but lo and behold! Found myself a nice new hard drive on eBay for about $50.

I might also get a new battery for $20 as well... my battery life was getting very poor.


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 06:42
How would they know unless they saw it? Or did you bring it to them?


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Veron
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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 07:48
Nah, I only rang them, but they said that if it's rattling, then it's probably a part inside the HDD. It could be the battery as well on second thoughts though. =\

Anyway, I just opened up the iPod, and the screen all seems fine, and the same goes for the circuit board (phew), so I don't think anything is wrong with them.


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 08:17
I wouldn't be surprized if it were the hard drive... as it is a hard drive. We all know how wonderful those can be in times of dropping.

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 08:53 Edited at: 22nd Jun 2008 08:56
I actually do prefer the Zune to IPod as well. I can't really see a world of difference between them, except for the fact that Zune auto-formats videos whereas the IPod does not (maybe it does now, but not when I got my Zune). I bought a Zune the week they came out, and after several accidental droppings, being left in sub-par conditions, etc., it still plays like a champ. I have also been somewhat abusive to the battery (charging it long past full battery and letting it run all the way down), and it almost seems like it lasts longer now.

I don't have a ton of experience with IPod, but from what I have seen (at least on the models from a year or two ago), it was much more of a pain to get your media on to it. Re-formatting videos through 3rd party apps (some less reputable programs have viruses and spyware in them), getting programs to load non-ITunes mp3s, etc. Zune just lets you put on whatever you want, from whatever source and it will try to format everything for you.

Also, with the release of XNA 3.0, users will now be able to create home-brew games to play on their Zune, making it truly an all-in-one media device. Albeit, the games will probably not be very sophisticated since the Zune was not made for gaming (probably not much more than 2D puzzle games), but IPod still cannot do anything of the sort.

EDIT: I came back as an after-thought and figured that the MP3 sharing function actually does deserve some mention. While it's still in its infancy now, and has many limitations, I think it is the start of something very cool. If they take off the oddball restrictions (a shared song only has so many plays before it auto-deletes), then Wi-Fi song sharing Zune-to-Zune could really make Zune a great product.
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Gigabeats are where it's at.

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Quote: "Also, with the release of XNA 3.0, users will now be able to create home-brew games to play on their Zune, making it truly an all-in-one media device. Albeit, the games will probably not be very sophisticated since the Zune was not made for gaming (probably not much more than 2D puzzle games), but IPod still cannot do anything of the sort."


Have you seen Super Monkey Ball or Spore running on the IPod Touch/IPhone? Yea...

Also, I have never had any issues whatsoever getting media onto my IPod touch, ITunes imports everything like a champ. It also works fine after being left in the car in our ridiculously hot Utah summers, and our ridiculously cold Utah winters.

Not saying the Zune is junk or anything, as I haven't tried one, but Apple seems to at least be making one thing right, and that's MP3 players. They don't sell more than any other brand just because of the name.

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 09:30
Quote: "Also, with the release of XNA 3.0, users will now be able to create home-brew games to play on their Zune, making it truly an all-in-one media device. Albeit, the games will probably not be very sophisticated since the Zune was not made for gaming (probably not much more than 2D puzzle games), but IPod still cannot do anything of the sort."


Yeah it's a shame that all the iPod games have to be fairplay signed and apple signed so not just anyone can make games... Although if you install iPod Linux on your iPod you could make games for it, but then anyone who wanted to play your game would also need to install iPod Linux...

Although tbh I only play the guitar hero game 'Phase' and 'Peggle' on my iPod anyway...

I think the newer versions of iTunes converts your vidoes for you but I can't be too certain as all the videos I have put on mine are ones I filmed myself and they were in quicktime format... I've never tried an .avi or .mpeg

I've never heard of the MP3 sharing function but it certainly does sound interesting... Do you have more info on it?

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 16:18
It's frankly your own fault for buying anything smaller than a laptop with a magnetic hard drive in it. What on earth possessed you when SDHC cards are no longer that expensive?


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 16:41
Good point, but in the end i've decided to send my iPod to some guy in the USA for a diagnostic test. He'll be able to tell me exactly what's wrong with it, because if I buy a $65 HDD off eBay and discover the problem was the battery... i'm out of pocket $65.

The diagnostic test is at http://store.ifixipodsfast.com/ipod-diagnostic-testing/cat_34.html

So tomorrow afternoon, into the mailbox my iPod goes!


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 18:42
Quote: "It's frankly your own fault for buying anything smaller than a laptop with a magnetic hard drive in it. What on earth possessed you when SDHC cards are no longer that expensive?"


Why the hell is the size of any consequence at all? HDs break regardless of what size they are you know.


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2008 19:05
Ah yes, but I think there's plenty of plastic and metal to absorb shock within a laptop unit. Can't say the same for your slim little iPod can you?


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Posted: 23rd Jun 2008 00:28
Quote: "Ah yes, but I think there's plenty of plastic and metal to absorb shock within a laptop unit. "


So by your logic it's better to damage the LCD, the framing, the motherboard, and other parts of the laptop so long as the hard drive is safe? Maybe if there's sensitive data on your laptop, but with an ipod there's just songs. No biggie.

Quote: "Yeah it's a shame that all the iPod games have to be fairplay signed and apple signed so not just anyone can make games.."


Not true. There's an SDK out on the Apple website where any joe user can make iPhone and iPod Touch games and release them.


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Posted: 23rd Jun 2008 00:37 Edited at: 23rd Jun 2008 00:38
Quote: "Not true. There's an SDK out on the Apple website where any joe user can make iPhone and iPod Touch games and release them."


Oh I didn't realise that... Still doesn't help people who want to make games for regular iPods, though...

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Quote: "anything is beter than the ipod cos u dont have to put up with stupid itunes the whole time and there arent many other mp3 players that are so overly priced"


You don't have to use iTunes...

I use Winamp to sync most of my music. Only time I use iTunes is for syncing music I've bought on iTunes and even then ( I know people will probably question the legality ) I usually burn the iTunes song to a disc and rip them back onto my hard drive as MP3 or WMA. Voila, no iTunes.

As far as overpriced goes? Eh. I dunno about that. I'm way glad I have 80 gigs of storage for only 2x the price of my sister's Sandisk Sansa with 2 gigs of storage. On top of that the overall quality of everything is 100 times better.

Removable storage cards ARE still expensive in proportion to hard drives, also, who really wants to carry around a bunch of memory cards to house their music and movie collections when you could just get a hard drive based MP3 player and have it all right there at your fingertips. Aren't MP3 players supposed to defeat the whole carrying all your media around with you that so plagued listeners who used cassettes and CDs in past entertainment generations? Heh.

I challenge anyone to find me an MP3 player with similar or better features and quality at a better price. I paid $235 (USD) for my iPod Classic 80gb brand new in box on Amazon. Please enlighten me and link me up to some better players please

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Posted: 23rd Jun 2008 09:56 Edited at: 23rd Jun 2008 09:56
I decided to get the solid state 8GB ipod nano because I didn't want to deal with fragile, moving parts. All the songs I want to hear on a daily basis fit nice and easy on there


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Yeah, 8GB probably wouldn't cut it for me sadly, i've got a hell of a lot of movies on mine, perfect for long 2 hour train trips to work, or whenever I feel like it.


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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 08:16
Ipod is good, but as soon as you buy 1 2 days later a better one comes out at 4 times the price so get a zune dude

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Yeah, well why are you playing games on PCs and consoles, they get outdated fast. Why did you buy DVDs, BlueRay is taking over eventually. Your Zune might not get updated 3 days later but hey, at least the Ipod user has more options

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Posted: 26th Jun 2008 10:51
Quote: "I've never heard of the MP3 sharing function but it certainly does sound interesting... Do you have more info on it?"


This is from the Zune site:

"Wireless Zune-to-Zune sharing.[2] Share full-length tracks of your favorite songs, albums, playlists, pictures and even audio podcasts. Listen to the full track of any song you receive up to three times, and even pass along songs you receive to other friends nearby who have a Zune. If you like a song you receive, you can easily add it to your wish list and then buy it from your PC the next time you sync."

I am sure the expirations on shared files is due to fear of lawsuits from the music industry, and not wanting to make the Zune look like the "perfect piracy machine". It is still a pretty nifty feature, though. I also heard that there is a hack for the Zune out there that removes the file deletion after the set amount of plays, although I have not checked on this because I don't really find myself in a lot of situations where it would be handy.

Quote: "Not saying the Zune is junk or anything, as I haven't tried one, but Apple seems to at least be making one thing right, and that's MP3 players. They don't sell more than any other brand just because of the name."


And I am not saying that the IPod is junk (as I have not used one much at all), but I can't be so sure that the massive sales are a pH test of the product quality. If there is one thing that the IPod is, it's an MP3 juggernaut. Once a product gets so saturated, it's sales will continue based on name alone. When the less-so technically inclined begin calling any MP3 player "an IPod", you know you have a monster market share. This is similar to how a "Coke" can be any soda in certain regions of the USA. It was the first, it caught on like crazy and even though some sodas may be "better", it still outsells #2 3-to-1 (not a perfect analogy, I know, but it is close).

It will take an act of God to throw IPod off the mountain, even if they start releasing crappy product after product. They own it, and therefore, the sales will continue. Many people don't even know there is a real choice.

(At the end of the day, my opinion is that there is not enough difference to really care. I think about 90% of the "IPod vs. Zune" debate is fanboyism, just like ATI vs. NVidia. While it is smart consuming to do research to see which is better for you, when people start attacking the other side, that's all it is about. The biggest difference is the logo.)
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Posted: 27th Jun 2008 07:16
Not sure why so many people here hate iPods. I have a nano and a shuffle, and have been swapping both on Mac and Windows without any problems and never any hardware failures in them. But then, I take care of mine and don't drop them.


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