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Newcomers DBPro Corner / NEWCOMER'S OF DBP FORUM READ THIS FIRST

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MikeS
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:04 Edited at: 15th Jul 2003 00:38
http://www.darkbasicpro.com/apollo/view.php?t=12813&b=7
Here are the rules for the newcommer's section folks.I think I've seen about 10 posts today with the title "HELP ME!!!!!".Please, some of us around here have been reading these kinds of posts for 3 straight months, and it doesn't make it very fun to reply to.Especially when you can do a lot of the research yourself.

Here is a tutorial on making a good game, along with some dbp commands.
http://www.darkbasic.com/create/bm_tutorials/
Here's another good tutorial
http://www.darkbasic.com/create.php?f=3d_tutorials_index.php
And here is the guide to just about every command in DBP
http://www.realgametools.net/glossary/index.php3?theme=1&level=2&document_id_select=3

Remeber, if you're new, just try to at least go through these tutorials, experiment on your own before you ask for help.

Also, here is a list of my recommended tools.

3D- wings3d (free) ([href]wings3d.com[/href])
milkshape ($20) (http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/ms3d/index.html)
Truespace 3.2 (free) (http://download.com.com/3000-2186-10187913.html)

animation specific-Character FX http://www.insanesoftware.de/

2D- ms paint, yup that's right, it'll due for some things
Paint shop Pro- http://www.jasc.com/

mapeditors-valve hammer editor http://www.valve-erc.com/
Quark http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~quark/
Cartography shopt http://www.darkbasic.com/c.php?f=cartographyshop1

misc.-deep exploration(file converter) http://www.righthemisphere.com/products/dexp/


Here's another list of tools by RPGamer(many tools repeated), but these ones here are mostly all FREE!
3D Model Creating
Anim8or www.anim8or.com
Wings3D www.wings3d.com

2D Stuff
MS Paint (uh, comes with your comp.)

World Making
MatEdit www.matedit.com

Textures
www.darkbasic.com
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/texture/ (lots of em )

UV Mapping
Lithium Unwrap [get it from Simples Site]
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/toneth/lithunwrap.zip

Extra Tools
http://www.darkforge.co.uk/ [I think]
http://www.andrewvanbeck.btinternet.co.uk/ [Van B Creations - Good]
More links available from www.darkbasic.com and www.darkbasicpro.com
http://www.uwdesign.50megs.com/

Tutorials
www.dbheaven.com
www.darkbasic.com
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/toneth/

More Good Stuff
http://www.darkbasiccodebase.co.uk/
http://www.darkbasicplanet.com/
http://www.realgametools.com/

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F.A.Q

1- Q.What are my limitations with db/Dbp?
A.Your imagination, and how much time and effort you give into it.

2- Q.Recommended software?
A.Look a few sentances up.

3- Q.Does db support multiplayer?
A.No, but if you buy the enhancement pack it will, and dbpalso has built in multiplayer support.

4. Q.How many people can dbp support
A.I believe 256 max.

5- Q.How many polygons can db/dbp handle?
A.Too many for you to be concered about.(It's in the 100millions)

6- Q.Where are some tutorials?
A.I listed some above.

7- Q.Why won't my textures show on my characters/objects/etc.?
A.Make sure your char./object/etc. is in the proper format that is accepted by db/dbp.Usually .x is recommended.I've provided a link to Deep Exploration which can convert most objects into that format, and truespace 3.2 also does many of the common ones.You also must make sure that your textures are in the same directory as your model.

8- Q.Is there a forum search?
A. Yes,http://www.quikly.com/dbsearch/

9- Q.What's the difference between DBP,DBC,and db enhanhced?Which is better?
Okay, DBC was the first dark basic.It's been around longer, and is pretty stable, although it is no longer being worked on.Db enhanced is like an expansion pack to dbc.It adds more commands, mainly giving support for multiplayer games.DBP, is the newest, and the most powerful of the three.It has built in multiplayer support, along with tons of other new commmands that dbc simply does now offer.

10- Q.Which of those three should I buy?
A.Well, to get db enhanced you'd first have to buy dbc.If you want a faster, more powerful language then go with dbp.Try out the demo for dbc and dbp here.
http://www.darkbasic.com/download.php
http://www.darkbasicpro.com/trial.php

Note: If this f.a.q doesn't help you then please post, and I will make them even more specific.
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Other things to keep in mind

1-Don't bring back dead posts.If a post is really near to the bottom,
or no one has replied in nearly a month, please don't post there.

2-Don't type your WHOLE post in all bold,itlaics,or all in uppercase,
because it is rude.

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Please, please, please, although this is the newcomer's section, I'm still warning everyone not to ask for pay,offer pay, say there gonna make a mmorpg/rpg/huge rts/next quake 3 in the team request section.
Also, please do your best to put threads in the right forum.


I'm only writing this, so that hopefully more people will let this get out to them, and if it does, there won't be many problems around here.

Thanks for reading.



I'll edit this post later, to add more info.

Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:06
Yay Yellow - you read the rules! Everyone! Follow yellows footsteps!

Thx Yellow - those took a while

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:08
Hallllllleeeeneeeewwwyaaaaaaaa

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:10
I edited it again, with a short F.A.Q, and I will regulary update it, even if it means bringing it from the dead.(lol)

Yea, I'm a bit frustrated after helping about 10 newcomers today with questions that I remember solving on my own by just using those tutorials.Oh well, now I feel a little better.




Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:17
ugh one typo DB/SBP (DBP) in #1.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:19
phew, glad you caught that.



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:21
its what i'm here for, don't wanna see a topic
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Quote: "PLZ HELP ME"
then the post is :

Quote: "WHAT IS SBP????????????????????"


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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 05:32
lol, yea, lemme think of a good definition of a bsp to add to my f.a.q now.Ooooo, and I got another one, why won't my textures show up in dbp.I'll get these in later tonight, or I'll do them sometime tomorrow.

Anyone who reads

Newbie's: Ask your questions here, and I'll put them in the f.a.q

Pro's(well at least someone who knows what they're doing):Write your own question to add to the f.a.q, or put something that you think would be good to include.



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 10:31
how come this isn't sticky????

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 16:52
your looking at the wrong kind of website (sorry just woke up and couldn't resist )

@ yellow - maybe a good idea to put a link to the Forum Serach post as well

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 17:05
Very good.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 19:02
Okay, I'm adding a link now, later today I'll also add about bsp's and texturing objects.

If anyone else has questions, or wants to add something just post here.



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 22:04
Im Just bumping this. Im not sticking it because the rules are already up there. Pretty quick here Im going to start DELETING threads that dont go by the rules.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2003 22:15
I amended the Rules - go check it out.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 01:01
Checked them out, nice work.

::bump::



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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 04:45
this is a nice collection

::BUMP::
heheeheee

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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 07:33
Great post Yellow.
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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 16:13
Heh, theres been like 1 post since the rules were edited

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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 16:14
Hey waitaminute yellow! Those resources look AWFULLY like the ones I posted earlier

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Posted: 13th Jul 2003 19:27
Hehehe, yea I hope yuo don't mind RPGamer.You had a good list so I added it.(I put your name in that post somewhere I think )



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
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NP

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 00:39
Added the other things to keep in mind section, along with some more resources.

(any chance of sticky'ing this? I know we already have the rules stickied, but we don't really have a collection of resources anywhere?)



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 01:36 Edited at: 15th Jul 2003 01:42
OK Yellow - I combined YOUR page with my rules page, for ONE GIANT THREAD!

Go check it out - Its easy to find

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 01:59
If you want anything added - please tell me here. The post is at

http://www.darkbasicpro.com/apollo/view.php?t=13351&b=7

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 02:53
I found it, and I'll let you know if I need anything added.Although I think I've covered most everything.(lol, together the post is like 5 pages)



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.
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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 05:59 Edited at: 15th Jul 2003 06:01
Never mind...

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Quote: "OK Yellow - I combined YOUR page with my rules page, for ONE GIANT THREAD!
"

A thread that great... I didn't think it was possible!!!

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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 11:23
3- Q.Does db support multiplayer?
A.No, but if you buy the enhancement pack it will, and dbpalso has built in multiplayer support.


Say that the enchancment pack is called "DarkMatter" and give the url to it. Also you may as well separate 'dbpalso' so ot makes sense.

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I've got another one...

Q. How do I upload pictures/media to have in my posts.

A. Register for a free account (or a not free one if you can afford it) with a web server to get your own webspace. They often have tools and instructions for uploading files to your webspace or otherwise go to http://www.smartftp.com/ to get a tool that will do it for you.

Here is a list of servers...
(I don't know many, so help me out here )

cuRant PRogekt: a three-de map editer
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Posted: 15th Jul 2003 21:45 Edited at: 16th Jul 2003 22:20
Also

Don't put bitmaps in your posts!!! Use jpegs or gifs or some other compressed format!

MS Paint will save as .jpeg/.jpg, but in a low quality. To get higher quality jpegs use Adobe Photoshop, Arcsoft Photostudio, or one of the numerous art packages out there. Free versions of these can sometimes be found on demo disks or even on the internet, look around. Image convertors are also available on the web.

cuRant PRogekt: a three-de map editer
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Thanks for the suggustions everyone.

Hey RPG, I hope your reading some of this stuff, to include to the post.Thnx.



Yellow:Wanna publish my game microsoft, cuz i no u rich so...Can I have my bag of money now?
Microsoft: *snicker* Tip of the month-Microsoft will never(probebly) publish your game.

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