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Mr Z
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Hi all.

Just wondering if Crysis and Team Fortress 2 works for you. They do not work for me, and I have reinstalled Windows, updated the drivers for the motherboard, the sound card and the graphics card, and I have updated DirectX.

But still, nither Crysis or Team Fortress 2 work at all for me. In Crysis, I can play for a minute or five, maybe, but it then it freezes the computer and I have to use the power switch to restart it. In Team Fortress 2, I start a game and the entire computer freezes and I cannot do anything but use the power switch to restart.

I got a XFX GeForce 8500 GT with 256 mb video ram as a graphics card, it should be fully capable of running both Crysis and Team Fortress 2. Maybe not on high on everything, but it should be able to run them.

And I have tried Team Fortress Classic, and that one actually works well.

Anyone out there that has Vista that can tell me if you´re having the same problems I have? Or is it something with my computer or my drivers?

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TF2 works fine for me on Vista (don't have Crysis), are you sure your comp isn't overheating?

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 01:50 Edited at: 25th Jun 2008 14:57
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i got crysis works fine for me try setting everything to the lowest and run for a bit

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 01:52 Edited at: 25th Jun 2008 02:03
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After a restart it works perfectly again. The restart take at most, or maybe two minute, before I start it again. Then it is like that thing never happend (except for that Windows stated that it was shutdown in a wrong way and asks what I want to do).

I played Crysis yesterday, and then it worked. Crashed the first time, so I had to restart, then I lowered the resolution, and it worked again. But today I could not play it without it crashing like that.

Anyway, good to know it works for you. Then it is either a hardware issue like overheating or driver issue (at last that is what I would guess).

If it is overheating, then it should just be to put in another fan or something, right?

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I tried "Half Life 2: Lost Coast", and it made the computer freeze, so I had to restart it with the power switch. Held my hand on backside so I could sense the air coming out to see if it was hot or cold, and it was quite cold.


And actually I have 2 graphics cards, one that is integrated on the motherboard. But I have no SLI, so it only uses one of the cards.

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Crysis (demo) works fine for me and so does Half Life 2: Lost Coast.

Every game I've ran so far has ran successfully- though Dark Messiah and Final Fantasy VIII did need patching first

It seems strange Crysis is having problems, there should be tools out there to analyse your system hardware status - I don't know what though, perhaps somebody else has a link?

Have you tried running it under Direct X 9 mode?

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sounds like your PC is overheating to me. Crysis would occasionally overheat my PC and it would just totally lock up.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 14:12 Edited at: 25th Jun 2008 14:14
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Quote: "It seems strange Crysis is having problems, there should be tools out there to analyse your system hardware status - I don't know what though, perhaps somebody else has a link?

Have you tried running it under Direct X 9 mode?"


Yeah, it is really strange that Crysis, which is made for both XP and Vista and can use DX10, run into trouble. Have not tried DX9 mode, but it does not seem to matter (Lost Coast uses DX9, doesn´t?). Any hardware status thing that can help analyzing the hardware to see if there is any problem there would be great.

Lucky me that the PC is brand new, have only had ir for a couple of days.

Quote: "sounds like your PC is overheating to me. Crysis would occasionally overheat my PC and it would just totally lock up."


If this is the case, what would I do about it? Put in another fan? Maybe place it in a colder place?

(Don´t really know, have never had a overheating PC before.)

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 14:15 Edited at: 25th Jun 2008 14:17
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crysis crashes for me sometimes. Mostly due to 64bit i think.
dont have TF2. Everything else is good....just crysis is a little shaky but it still works ]

EDIT: also i just looked at the XFX GeForce 8500 GT on google. Is yours passive or active cooled?


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I had a problem last week that the Nvidia driver would stop working whenever I started a 3D game. Turned out it was a faulty RAM chip (which luckily has a lifetime warranty so is of being replaced now). It's something worth checking, Prime95 didn't pick it up, had to physically remove the faulty module and try booting with just the one.

If it is overheating you can always try taking the side of your case and placing a desktop fan next to it, use to have to do that with my old comp during the summer.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 16:25 Edited at: 25th Jun 2008 16:25
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Quote: "EDIT: also i just looked at the XFX GeForce 8500 GT on google. Is yours passive or active cooled?"


Think it is actively cooled, but not sure. Read what people think about it (one person), and he stated that it was quite cold, even while gaming (gave it 5 of 5).

Quote: "If it is overheating you can always try taking the side of your case and placing a desktop fan next to it, use to have to do that with my old comp during the summer."


Thanks for the tip.

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have you seen anyone else with this problem?

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Posted: 25th Jun 2008 22:38
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Not really.

Have heard that a friend have a similar issue, but with about every application there is (but my computer is far better).

Anyway, does anyone know any good, free application for measuring the temps on the graphics card and CPU?

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Posted: 26th Jun 2008 08:01 Edited at: 26th Jun 2008 08:02
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speed fan for most, but sometimes shows gpu as aux1 and stuff

or

RivaTuner = GFX Card

but if u can spend a bit...everest


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Thanks . Will check them out.

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I had the same problem with my Pc before I upgraded the Graphics Card... I could get about 5 minutes into a game before it froze completly up. Then I had to restart my computer.

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I discovered yesterday that the computer was mounted in a crappy way (ordered it from a company that offer to mount it for you). As an example, the harddrive was mounted awry. And it had no fan in the chassi, even though I ordered it with a chassi with a fan. So, somehow I just feel to returning it, get the money back and buy a new one in a shop near by (I ordered this one from the internet).

Worst thing is that I cannot give it to an expert who look inside and tries to fix it (I know one that is quite good), because then the guarantee stops to be in affect, so I have to send it back if I want to repair it, and I may have to pay for the shipment, which I cannot afford .

Sight, this is the first and last time I buy a computer from this company.

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