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Geek Culture / Big Brothers Watching you

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 12:59
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The police aren't enforcers of the law, they're enforcers of the Treasury. Why else would they roll around in blacked-out, armored, bombproof Transit vans catching people doing 31mph in a 30mph right after a 50mph zone? Let's face it; the British police are totally incapable of doing anything other than stuffing their pockets with cash nowadays.


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MSon
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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 13:26 Edited at: 7th Jul 2008 13:39
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@ NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
I hate to say it, but i fully agree with that, although if you live in a more wealthy part of the country, they you proberley get different treatment.

Family across the road from where i live called the police after someone curbed his car to try and run one them over, the guy was known to them and the police, they reported it to the police for which she had 2 police officers make an "Unofficial Visit" to her address and fretaned to hit and arrest her, (a 14 year old girl) if she called the police about the guy again, they made an official complanit to the police about the 2 officers, but yet again nothing happened.

also i dont realy get how they could use the exuse for me of "Not anouth police officers to call round now" when i live a 15 minute walk from our local police station and a 30 minute walk from the Police's NorthWest HQ.

Although i guess i can feel secure that if Virgin send me one of these warning letters there sending to customers who download large amounts, that the police will have no problem chasing any of these if Virgin requests it.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 14:04
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Yeah the police force can be quite crap, but in some places they're fine, in our area the complaints seem to be only about CSO's and the stupid dispersion order that the police put on the town centre. However up in Derby (at uni) the police are quite polite, they've even said morning - I don't know what their crime is like, but they seem to be out at night doing their job making sure the people enjoying the night life don't do anything stupid and that people are safe. My flat mate was found extremely drunk and flat faced on an old lady's front garden, the police took him back, barely understanding what he was saying, except the apologies and insults (he doesn't like the police, he mostly knows them as, well, the things you find on a cactus) they made sure he was okay, we offered them tea, they didn't want it, they stayed until we managed to carry him to his bed and left it at that. They were nice about it, they didn't charge him for being drunk and disorderly and they seemed to want to make sure he made it home safe.

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MSon
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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 16:01 Edited at: 7th Jul 2008 18:14
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Sorry to bring this back up, but yet more sensorship, (See Here)

Quote: "Among the amendments are calls to enact a Europe-wide "three strikes" law. This would see users banned from the web if they fail to heed three warnings that they are suspected of putting copyrighted works on file-sharing networks."


Quote: "[The amendments] pave the way for the monitoring and filtering of the internet by private companies"


Quote: "In addition it bestows powers on governments to decide which programs can be "lawfully" used on the internet

The Foundation for a Free Internet Infrastructure (FFII) warned that if the amendments were accepted they would create a "Soviet internet" on which only software and services approved by governments would be allowed to run.

"Tomorrow, popular software applications like Skype or even Firefox might be declared illegal in Europe if they are not certified by an administrative authority," warned Benjamin Henrion, FFII representative in Brussels, in a statement."


This is the type of cr@p our taxes pay for

I agree with going after the uploaders of the copywrited material not the downloaders, but only being able to use online Programmes which have an EU Licanse for the programme seems extream.

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Mr Z
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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 20:02
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Quote: "This is probably where where we're on different pages - you are talking about what is right be law and what is entitled, we're talking about what is morally right and what should be entitled - or at least from our point of view. Just because it's the law, don't make it moral, even US or UK law may not necessarily be moral.

Regardless, it seems Viacom and the court did was wrong by law anyway - under the act highlighted in the article Chenak posted they would not have been allowed to take that data - or at the very least, some of it."


Agreed .

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