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Michael S
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I know this isn't as exciting as it was back in 2006... but at least it's still relatively interesting.

Are there any games that you guys are looking forward to or gaming news that may be of significance? E3 is next week and once again, we'll be flooded with gaming news. Maybe not as much as before, but still... worth looking into.

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Im looking forward To the Presentation of Resident Evil 5

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Im hoping they show off somthing to do with beyond Good And Evil 2 or Alan Wake.

Gear of wars 2 info will be welcomed too


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ZELDA! ZEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I don't really follow the gaming industry anymore, so I have no Idea what's coming out.

EDIT: Farcry 2, Red Faction Guerrilla, and EndWar looks good.

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Fallout 3, GoW 2, EndWar, Farcry 2, Oh and just to make bizar happy..
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAA!

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the conduit, zelda, good wii games, there was been talk that there might be a UT4...so im RLY excited for that if its true.!


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I haven't even beaten Twilight Princess yet.. I dunno, it didn't appeal to me. So I'd like a new Zelda game with more challenging combat and also challenging puzzles. Not just one or the other.

It will be nice to get more info about the Conduit. That game looks like a for sure Wii title purchase for me

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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 20:10 Edited at: 14th Jul 2008 20:11
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Maybe a final look at Spore before it gets out would be nice
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Quote: "I haven't even beaten Twilight Princess yet.. I dunno, it didn't appeal to me. So I'd like a new Zelda game with more challenging combat and also challenging puzzles. Not just one or the other. "

The Zelda games aren't supposed to have difficult combat, they are puzzle adventure games and they will keep on being that, and that's what makes them awesome(from my point of view)


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I lost interest in TP, too, the Water Temple just got boring.


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I wanna see Star Wars: Force Unleashed, the new Indiana Jones game, Mercenaries 2, and Lord of the Rings: Conquest.
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I stopped in the water temple too.

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I am happy for the FF XIII on the 360, and the new 360 Dashboard update with the ability to save your games to the HD so they wont crash because of a "disk unreadable" error! I also wanna see MORE on Diablo 3 and Starcraft dos.

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The new mirrors edge trailer is beast.
Dawn of War 2 doesnt look like any thing new.
Theres an epic gameplay trailer of Gears 2 which is snazy.
... PORTALS:STILL ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but wheres Beyond good and evil?


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Quote: "I lost interest in TP, too, the Water Temple just got boring.
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Meh the Water Temple was easy as crap.


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Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean...looks like I might fork out cash and get a 360...never, ever thought I'd say that, but it seems this PC gamer has so far seen 2 titles he'll love that won't be on the PC. (Or looks like they won't be on PC)

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I am also going to get a 360 soon, there is an XNA programming competition on at the moment where the #1 prize is $40,000 then #2 is $20,000 #3 is $10,000 and #4 is $5000.

They have made it so you can make games for 360 for free for the next few months.

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Nintendo conference starts in 1 hour, there is a live feed on IGN. Sony starts in 3 hours.

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Looking forward to Resident Evil 5, Farcry 2, Guitar Hero 4.


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Guitar hero 4

and zelda OOT was the best


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Does anyone know where I can watch the EA press conference from yesterday? All the sites just have the trailers, but I want to see John Carmack's speech.


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I think this is it
part ONE
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36427.html
part TWO
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36439.html


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No that's the MS Conference--- I'm interested in watching the EA Conference.


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Oh. Sorry. Dang, i remember seeing that. Ill take a quick look

EDIT: okay, i think this is what you want.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1780.html


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Posted: 16th Jul 2008 04:49 Edited at: 16th Jul 2008 04:51
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Great, that's it, thanks

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Was anyone else disappointed by Nintendo's press conference?

There's a new Animal Crossing that we've known about already. Lots of crap for soccer mom's (recipe books, travel planner, etc.) The Wii Music game that we've known about for years since the Wii was first announced--- and the execs played it onstage for way too cringe-worthy and long. It's basically a music game where you don't have to have any rhythm, apparently. I could barely watch them play it was so cringe-worthy.

Then they have an attachment for your Wii-mote that makes it more responsive--- shouldn't it have been more responsive in the first place? That would be akin to Microsoft releasing a DPAD attachment because their original DPAD is crap.

That exec, Cammie is her name I think, was very patronizing and reminded me of an annoying schoolteacher I had who said everything slow and full of expression. Basically she talked like the crowd was full of 3 year olds.

I dunno--- it was just boring.


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Reminds me of my E3 thread last year, when we all discovered crysis for the first time...

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Quote: "Reminds me of my E3 thread last year, when we all discovered crysis for the first time...
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Why is everyone so huge about Crysis, in my opinion it wasn't really a good game, most computers couldn't handle it and the story was meh, and the gameplay was kinda fun I guess.
I mean, it isn't like it's the greatest game ever invented.


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I wouldn't say it is the greatest, but it a *darn* amazing shooter. The gameplay in most opinions in why people play it. I have it on lowest graphics and an 800x600 resolution, and I still play it. Its a non-linear shooter that, if you want to compare to far cry, is a 100x better.
^my opinion^

This year, I'm looking forward to

Spore
Dawn of War 2

So far. I didn't really get time to look around, I'm wasting my time programming.

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I've really only played the demo of Crysis and the main thing seems to be the game play, the gameplay is great (as are the graphics, physics and AI) - you can have fun with it, but if you wanted something more, then it seems like it's not that sort of game.

As for computers not being able to play it, you probably could buy a £500 (maybe cheaper) computer that plays it, the price increases with the higher the detail, a £700 gaming laptop probably will get you a smooth-ish medium-high detail. Not as if you need a spectacular-amazing system to run it, given the direction gaming is going in, it would be a worthy investment for a PC gamers.

This year I am looking forward to:
Star Ocean (If I ever get a 360)
Final Fantasy XIII
Spore
Dawn of War 2
Far Cry 2 (It would be interesting to try out with the sort of 'realism' it boasts)
That Sqaure PC RPG (whatever it was called)

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Quote: "That Sqaure PC RPG"


I have to look into that, sounds good...

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@Jeku

I couldn't agree with you more. I was utterly disappointed with the Nintendo conference. Especially as a drummer, you have no idea how god awful it was watching the first guy when he was playing....and just when you think hes done...he starts playing again....and again. And overall, I think it was close to the embarrassment that sony put on when they announced the PS3 price.

Oh ya, and its been 2 years, where the hell is my Zelda announcement?


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Quote: ". Lots of crap for soccer mom's (recipe books, travel planner, etc.)"


Yeah, I agree, Nintendo capitalising on a gaping hole in the market is pretty crappy


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Quote: "Quote: ". Lots of crap for soccer mom's (recipe books, travel planner, etc.)"

Yeah, I agree, Nintendo capitalising on a gaping hole in the market is pretty crappy "


Interestingly, my Dad just bought my Mum a DS for their wedding anniversary, it seems Nintendo is aiming for families - I guess within that market recipe books, travel planners etc. sound look good ideas, however that's not why my Dad bought it for my mum, it's because she keeps stealing my sister's to play Brain training and casual arcade games on. Obviously an open market that works and keeps their target audeince happy.

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I'm annoyed by complete and utter lack of PS2 BC in the future. I mean sure I have a PS2 (I technically have 3 once I move in with my girlfriend), but I really didn't want two Playstation consoles plugged into the TV when I got a PS3. I mean it's a mess of wires anyways, so reducing the amount of sheer hardware and bloody wires would have been nice.

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Quote: "Interestingly, my Dad just bought my Mum a DS for their wedding anniversary"
I got my bird a pink DS. She is quite a bit of a gamer anyways (yeah, totally amazes me too) and is addicted to it. Currently has had the DS plugged into the power and on standby mode for about a month because she can't beat a level on Diner Dash and it only saves every 10 levels or so. Sigh...

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Out of interest, that new plugin for the Wii controllers looks interesting. Essentially makes the controller almost 100% correct with movements, rather than just pathetically coming closeish to what you wanted. Only works with games programmed for it, and looks like will cock up your Wii condomthingy, but I'm all for it if makes it work properly and not like you have some neuromotor skill disorder or somesuch. First game is the sequel to Wii Sports apparently (Sports resort or somesuch).

Makes my Jedi Wii dreams that much wetter...

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Nice triple post, Dazzag.

I think the Wii aims for families, I usually don't use mine unless it is with a group of people.

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I just used the Wii for the first time. Didnt really approve, but oh well... I think it would be a good party system.

But I really wanted somthing on Beyond Good and Evil 2!!!


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Looking forward to Red Alert 3 the most I think.


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Quote: "Yeah, I agree, Nintendo capitalising on a gaping hole in the market is pretty crappy"


As far as I know soccer moms don't watch E3 Press Conferences. But honestly--- were you not annoyed by the main host? The lady who laughed at her own jokes and was waaaayyy too condescending.

As for Animal Crossing--- I can't wait

Quote: "Essentially makes the controller almost 100% correct with movements, rather than just pathetically coming closeish to what you wanted."


I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but shouldn't it have been almost 100% when it was released? That was the original hype, anyways. 1:1 matching your movements. Technically from experience I understand the Wii-mote's tech and its limitations, but most gamers do not.


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Quote: "I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but shouldn't it have been almost 100% when it was released?"

That was what everyone thought they knew it would be... before it was released


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About the Nintendo conference, it's just showing the direction Nintendo is heading. Obviously they're rolling money, so who am I to judge?

It's just last year they were like "We're not ignoring the core gamer-- here are your games coming out this year!"

And this year they were like "The core gamer is satisfied. They have these games that are already out." No mention of not even one "core" gamer product, which was a little strange.


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Two games.

Gears of War 2.
Fable 2.

'Nough said.


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Quote: "As far as I know soccer moms don't watch E3 Press Conferences. "


Nothing wrong with normal gamers like that sort of thing, who may watch E3 (plus E3 is good advertisement, perhaps a "Oh, Mum might like that", I'll get it for her birthday as a surprise) though I wasn't particularly interested in any of the Nintendo stuff, nothing to attract me.

Quote: "Obviously they're rolling money, so who am I to judge?"


Well no, their console/handheld pleases their target audiences (in general) - Microsoft and Sony have products and games that please their audience (in general). Nintendo chose a different market from the other 2, because Sony and Microsoft seemed more geared towards hardcore gamers and Nintendo probably saw the hole and sought to fill it with a console that has a gimmick controller and what are labelled as 'fun' games (though talking literally, games are 'fun'). Is it really such a problem that Nintendo have made a move that keeps them happy and keeps a different audience happy?



Also, as for 'add-ons' that are meant to function properly in the first place, yes it's true, they should and the Wii-mote needn't a new attachment, but they're not the first in this generation of consoles (360 not working properly for a number of people and some having to buy fan add-ons to stop it overheating)


Never-the-less, I'm actually pretty excited by some of the titles that are coming up, a new Prince of Persia, a PC JRPG, a new Fable and some games that are looking good and hopefully will be good. The Far Cry 2 team seems to mention they're giving it a good plot, hopefully they're true to their word, because I've been waiting for more FPS games with one of those.

The new Sonic the Hedgehog looks a bit odd, that apparently has a Wii release, wonder if it'll be as good as the 360 and PS3 versions, though as I said in an earlier post it may seem more and more likely that I'll buy a 360 as there are games being released for it that I want and aren't on the PC.

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I challenge someone to find a gamer among us who thought Wii Music looked fun *after* watching them dance around the stage like fools with the plastic toys, needing no coordination or particular skill. Looking around the net at Nintendo fan sites have found that most people agree with me--- Nintendo is making more products you'd buy for your 7 year old niece or your 45 year old aunt.


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I just have three words: Banjo FREAKIN Kazooie!!! My favorite game ever is coming out on XBox Live Arcade! That and the third one is coming out. It's a good year for Rareware!

Nintendo's was indeed disappointing, they seem less concerned about making games and more concerned with making hardware. I was half expecting a new Zelda game, but alas, disappointment . Although I was a huge fan of the original Animal Crossing.

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I want to see what RE5 is preparing. Also, I want to see any puzzle/action game that entertains me as much as De Blob did. Once, I did spend around three consecutive hours on that simple game. So.. I believe that the new version of Tumble Bugs will do that. ^^

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Quote: "The Zelda games aren't supposed to have difficult combat, they are puzzle adventure games and they will keep on being that, and that's what makes them awesome(from my point of view)"


I agree, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more intense combat too, Zelda is the only game that I know that could deliver some really good sword combat without over complicating it with piles of complex combos

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Quote: "I challenge someone to find a gamer among us who thought Wii Music looked fun *after* watching them dance around the stage like fools with the plastic toys, needing no coordination or particular skill. Looking around the net at Nintendo fan sites have found that most people agree with me--- Nintendo is making more products you'd buy for your 7 year old niece or your 45 year old aunt."


The Wii Music thing, didn't attract me, but Wii Music isn't the entire catalog of games for the Wii.

And yes Nintendo are making more products you'd buy for your 7 year old niece or a 45 year old aunt, and to be frank...so what? I like some of the games myself and the Wii and its games can give you an entertainment value if it's your sort of thing.

Is there really anything wrong with a game console company orientating themselves to 7 year olds, to old people, to your middle aged aunt? After all, gaming is about having fun, doing something that entertains you, and there's nothing wrong with acccommodating more for people who aren't of the mainstream audiences.

I don't think Ninendo more innovotive and a lot of their games aren't all that good in my opinion, there are games for it I enjoy, hence I sometimes play it, but all I see Nintendo has done is aimed for different audiences and as far as I can see it has worked for them.

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Quote: "And yes Nintendo are making more products you'd buy for your 7 year old niece or a 45 year old aunt, and to be frank...so what?"




Exactly. So what if they abandon the very gamers who built them up from nothing in the 80s, and stayed with them for decades? So what if they disappoint their loyal fanbase and head for a different market entirely? All those gamers (like me) who defended them for all those years since the N64, buying the GameCube even though we knew a lot of the good games wouldn't arrive on it, and staunchly denying those people who said back in the late 90's and early 2000's that they should exit the console market. Those gamers should just shut up and watch Nintendo start making games for little kids and grannies. I'm not a Ninty fanboy but it still annoys me when Nintendo holds an E3 conference and brings out a clueless host who is hard to watch, and then doesn't even announce anything more than plastic toys, a step *down* from Guitar Hero if you can imagine that, and an attachment that makes the Wii-mote act more like... well, a Wii-mote

One aside I'll give them is the Animal Crossing game, but then we *knew* about that already


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