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Geek Culture / is overclocking by 0.07ghz gonna damage my system?

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Allanon Shadeslayer
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 06:43
Hi, I built my computer for gaming and I like to meet the recommended system requirements to the games I play, so far it meets them on every game except for a couple that recommend 2.4ghz processors


I have an intel core 2 duo processor @2.33ghz

I want to overclock it to 2.4ghz

I have 2 case fans and a cpu fan that says on the packaging "overclock proof"

is increasing my cpu speed by 0.07ghz gonna damage my system?

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El Goorf
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 06:57
most systems can be overclocked to around 10% if the RAM and CPU are from the same era, so you should be able to kick out an extra 233mhz (or 0.233ghz), if the ram is much newer than the CPU, ie it can support higher clockspeeds, then you should be able to get about another 50% before any problems.

so yeh, 0.07ghz should be totally safe, the best ting to make sure is do a google search for any reports of people overclocking the same CPU you have, most results being from tech forums or hardware review websites.

however, in this day and age, overclocking isn't that dangerous. it's pretty much standard for motherboards these days to have a physical reset switch in some form, incase you overclock so far that your pc wont turn on anymore, you can flick the switch and it'll reset the FSB and mltiplier back to normal. infact, my motherboard does it automatically if it detects the clock is too high, without even needing to reboot, im guessing most new motherboards will have such a safety feature.

im just a little annoyed that the CPU FAN is being sold as "overclock proof", it's purely an advertising gimmick to take money from the poor souls who arent so.. informed.. of how it all works. the fan has very little to do with if your pc can overclock. sure, overclockign requires better than average cooling, but that's mostly down to the heatsink, not the fan itself.

so conclusion, you're only wanting to overclock your motherboard by 70mhz.. thats like what, the extra added power of a couple of digital watches, wont do any harm, but you probably wont notice much performance increase. i'd be willing to dare you to try a 200mhz overclock, you'll notice a fair amount of performance increase, without much risk of problems.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 07:00
I would say those games are going to work absolutely flawlessly at 2.33ghz. I wouldn't waste the time and worry.


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Allanon Shadeslayer
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 07:03
thx you guys are always very helpful to me

(if that came across as sarcastic i didn't intend for it to, i really appreciate your help)

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bitJericho
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 07:05
Oh also, unless they say 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo, you probably don't need to worry. The games were probably rated for Pentium 4 or 4 D processors. The core 2 would have the upper hand even at the lower clock rate because of the increase in FSB speed and cache.


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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 10:51
Quote: "Oh also, unless they say 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo, you probably don't need to worry."


Actually, if the recommended setting is 2.4 Core 2 Duo, then you can still blow steam from a lower spec, I can normally push a processor passed its recommended setting (without overclocking). My old system was 1.5ghz and it was running games of 2.0ghz (though they didn't run perfectly) and of course I'm running Assassin's Creed just fine, which is 2.2ghz Core 2 Duo (2.6 Pentium D) and I only have 2.0ghz Core 2 Duo.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 11:57
Oblivion:

3gHz Intel Pentium 4
1Gb DDR2 RAM
nVidia 6800 or above

My system:

1.8gHz AMD Athlon XP
1Gb DDR-100 RAM
nVidia 6200 AGP 8x

My FPS:

35-45

Bethesda:

Owned


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Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 14th Jul 2008 11:58
0.07 will do nothing to your hardware or to your frames in game. y not go to 2.8 or 3.0GHz?


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Sid Sinister
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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 07:52
Quote: "Oblivion:

3gHz Intel Pentium 4
1Gb DDR2 RAM
nVidia 6800 or above

My system:

1.8gHz AMD Athlon XP
1Gb DDR-100 RAM
nVidia 6200 AGP 8x

My FPS:

35-45

Bethesda:

Owned"


With what? The settings all the way turned down?

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 19:40
Everything max except draw distance, looks great except there seems to be a heavy fog over Cyrodiil.


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 19:48
If you turn off the grass you get quite a lot of speed up, it seems the number of polygons in a frame eats up your CPU, as Oblivion requires 3ghz Single Core, my computer is still a bit slow, however with the grass off it runs fine.

Well here's one for testing, I managed o run Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare demo on my old PC, with all of the settings down of course - it was really pushing its power. I was playable, but the load times were long - considering GRAW required as minimum a decent processor and 1gb of ram (when I had 512mb ram), the FPS was about 12 and it had the odd slow down from there.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 20:43
Quote: "70mhz.. thats like what, the extra added power of a couple of digital watches"


i still have a working 70mhz pentium laptop, pretty sure it won't oc by 70mhz lol (don't think you can run windows 95 on a pair of digital watches either )

as for the overclock, shouldn't cause any problems, but shouldn't make much difference either. 2.33GHz core duo should run anything fine, my laptop has a 1.73GHz core duo and an nvidia 7600 and it's cpu never seems to be a bottleneck.

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