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Geek Culture / Ive moved on to the Linux world

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SageTech
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 08:27
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Thats right, I've joined the ranks of the few and the geeky! I attempted duel booting my laptop with vista for a few days, but then decided to finally bite the bullet and now I'm a full time Ubuntu user! I must say I love my new OS, Ive used DSL(Damn small linux) before, but its amazing how much different, and BETTER, a real Desktop distro can be.

The only problem is Linux seems a bit scant when it comes to DPro-esque game development. IE Basic style syntax that can have you up and running a fully 3d demo in under five minutes. I know, I know, everyone says move on to C++/OpenGl, but Im not really looking for a courier in Game development, I just want to make games in my spare time, as a hobby, and do it in as few lines as possible, with a BASIC style syntax. So what options are their on Linux?


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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 09:26
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Quote: "courier"
You mean career, a courier is some one who delivers items.

I would just use Windows XP, because every thing you need for programming works, but with Linux you need to mess around before any thing works from a Windows system. But you can download Wine which is a Window emulator for Linux. Thats about all I know about Linux and that it doesnt have that many games that work.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 10:18
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My user experience of Linux:

"Wow, boots quick."
"A lot of software included."
"What, no emulators?"
"Right, I have to use the console to install software."
"Erm... that needs G++... a binary of which I cannot find for my distrobution."
"And that one needs OpenAL... can't find that either."
"Where's my XP disc?"

8 hours later, I was back on XP.


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ionstream
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 10:43
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I've never had a distro that booted quicker than my XP. My experience with Linux is usually good, if you only plan on using the software that the package manager gives. I liked having the latest versions of everything (especially important stuff like KDE), so I usually spent my hours ./configuring and make && make installing.
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Anonymous User
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 11:38
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Quote: "And that one needs OpenAL... can't find that either"


How long has it been since you used linux, no every game/program you download downloads everything it needs with it.

I've been using Ubuntu Hardy Heron since it was released (april) and the only problems I've had are caused by me mucking around with things I didn't understand.

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soapyfish
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 16:46
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Quote: "I just want to make games in my spare time, as a hobby, and do it in as few lines as possible, with a BASIC style syntax. So what options are their on Linux?"


I believe there is a version of blitz basic for linux.


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5Louiz
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 18:42
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Ubuntu is my main OS. I have Win XP in a small partition to make tests and use few programs. Get Wine. It makes possible to run many Windows program on Linux. The pain in Linux is how complex the installation of drivers can be.

About development, I do not know. I use only Flash and C++, but I believe that OpenGL engines will work on it.

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David R
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 19:37
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Quote: ""What, no emulators?""


There are emulators for practically anything and everything on Linux


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Keo C
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 20:57
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There are emulators for practically anything and everything on Linux"

You can even emulate other Linux install.


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Alucard94
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 21:09
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I tripple boot my macintosh computer with the original OS X, Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux. Fun times!


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zapakitul
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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 21:12 Edited at: 17th Jul 2008 21:13
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Quote: "You can even emulate other Linux install."

You can do that on Windows 2 using Virual Box, that happens to be Cross Platform...

Also im Running Ubuntu since 6.04 on my laptop and i didn't even reinstall it once! Now i upgraded it to 8.04! I have both Wine And Cedega and i can run games almost normal!

Camed across the same problem with Game Dev on linux, but you can Use C++ and OpenGL for Game Developing, Gambas for SoftWare Dev! You can even find a NDS Compiler for linux and you can use it to create games for the Nintendo DS console... Linux is full of possibilities... Also i remember some one posting that Dark Basic Pro worked for him on Ubuntu... What i am trying to say is that maybe, in a few years we could emulate almost every windows apps... Agh btw...

Quote: "Wine which is a Window emulator for Linux."

o.O Doesn't wine mean: Wine Is Not an Emulator?
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JoelJ
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 01:35
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Use MONO (C# for linux) and Irrlicht .net cp. Irrlicht is a pretty well known engine. It's simple enough to learn. Not as simple DBP, but you'll get the hang of it eventually.

They're pretty simple to use. And Irrlicht .net cp works with the mono compiler they say. I haven't tested it myself, I guess I could since I have openSUSE running on VMWare on this machine, but I'm too lazy right now.

Are you using Gnome with Ubuntu? or are you using KDE?

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bitJericho
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 02:17
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Quote: ""Wow, boots quick."
"A lot of software included."
"What, no emulators?"
"Right, I have to use the console to install software."
"Erm... that needs G++... a binary of which I cannot find for my distrobution."
"And that one needs OpenAL... can't find that either."
"Where's my XP disc?""


lol, try out ubuntu. It's the easiest OS out there to get along with. You don't have to touch the console if you don't want to.


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SageTech
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 03:49
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@JoelJ

Im using GNOME, I considered KDE because the new Dolphin file browser looks loads better then nautilus, and loads of aps seem to be native to KDE, but I like synaptic package manager, and GNOME hasnt given be troubles *yet*.

On a side note, I found my dbpro CD today...under the couch...with a TON of scratches. MY first thought is to make a copy so this wont happen again, but can I leggaly do that? And does it work activation wise? And if its scratched, to where its unreadable, what are my options? As getting a replacement hasnt been going smoothly...


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soapyfish
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 03:56 Edited at: 18th Jul 2008 03:57
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If you're talking about a free replacement then it's perhaps a bit unfair to expect a replacement if you have scratched it due to leaving it on the floor. You can't really expect TGC to compensate you for not looking after your disk.

If you're already activated from the disk once then you may still have the email that was sent with your activation code in. I had some trouble getting mine to activate from cd when using vista but luckily I still had the original email form when I activated it for XP.


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bitJericho
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 03:58
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You can have the disc resurfaced for about 3 bucks max at some game/computer stores. That'd be your best bet if it's unreadable. I don't think it'll work if you copy it, due to it's copy protection.


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SageTech
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Posted: 18th Jul 2008 04:00
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Yes, I have an activation email, but what good does that do me?


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