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Geek Culture / Overlocking?

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Haven Studios
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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 07:39
Well i have never done it so I have no clue what to do and what is does I heard it it's better why? Also how?

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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 07:43
over clocking is basically removing safety restrictions on your computers processor(s) so that it can run faster than the normal factory settings. the only problem is that it causes overheating. So you have to buy a fancy PC cooling system or you could damage your machine.

That's my understanding of it.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 16:51 Edited at: 4th Aug 2008 16:53
You get free programs that will change the settings automatically so that it is more "safe" so that you don't frizzle your pc. I don't know much about it though, I just let the program run.
And it doesn't work at home because that computer doesn't actualy have a cooling system so if you up the settings even a little it just goes "pft" off. It's nice and quite though hehehe.

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Posted: 5th Aug 2008 03:05 Edited at: 5th Aug 2008 03:05
Processors have a rated speed they run at, over clocking just pushes your CPU or graphics hardware past the rated speed.

I don't recommend using a software program for a CPU (It's fine for a graphics card).

For a CPU:
I'd go into your BIOS and up the FSB speed by maybe 3-4 mhz and test. Then keep doing that until you reach a good speed where everything is still cool and stable.


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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 02:51 Edited at: 6th Aug 2008 02:53
Quote: "over clocking is basically removing safety restrictions on your computers processor"


Wrong!

Quote: "You get free programs that will change the settings automatically so that it is more "safe" so that you don't frizzle your pc"


not necessarily..

Processor's speed is determined by FSB (front side bus) and the multiplier. A typical example is an FSB of 200MHZ with a Multiplier of X11. as the name suggests, multiply the FSB to get it's actual speed:

200 * 11 = 2200mhz, or 2.2ghz

there are 2.. ok 3 major factors which determine how high you can take the FSB and Multiplier. Firstly, if your motherboard/BIOS and.or CPU allow it in the first place. Chances are if you bought your pc from a major retailer, the settings will be locked as a safety feature, or in other cases you may have to press a "secret button" during boot-up. its common for CPUs to have their multiplier locked, but not the FSB. The exception to this that im aware of is the AMD black edition CPU's which are designed for enthusiasts who want to overclock and know what they're doing.

Secondly, you need to keep your processor cool, and remember that when playing games, the cpu will reach higher temperature than when you're sat toying around in bios. Most CPU's can live up to around 80celcius/175farenheit, but it's best to keep below half of that. the cooler your cpu is, the more stable it is and the longer it'll last. keep a close eye on the temperature of your cpu. if you can't see the temperature while gaming, check it immediately after as the cpu may cool quite quickly if it gets above 50 celcius i'd tune it down a bit, or go out and buy a better cooler. Note, it may not be the cpu cooler that's the problem, it may be that you case fans aren't good enough to extract the hot air from inside the case. clean the fans and heatsinks regularly as dust only insulates heat.

Thirdly, the voltage. Like a car, you need to provide the CPU with extra power to maintain the speeds without stalling. You should be able to get away with a 5-10% increase in speed without needing to increase the voltage. if your pc begins to stall, increase the voltage just a bit. if you've increased the voltage and the pc is still stalling, then you've gone too far, turn the FSB and voltage back down to the last stable setting, and wait until you have a new cooler or more reliable power supply before trying again.

you can get software which will do all this for you automatically, testing the stability for a few minutes before overclocking further. however, it's best to use the software recommended by your motherboard, if you purchased the motherboard, you should have a disc that comes with it, including the drivers and a specialised overclocking software/tool for that motherboard.

what happens if you've gone too far? most motherboards will have some sort of safety against over-overclocking. most latest tech motherboards will detect a problem due to overclocking, and automatically lower the speed, sometimes the system will automatically reboot while doing this, other times it may occur without you even noticing in the middle of a game. with slightly older motherboards, the pc will beep at you when you turn it on, and then it refuses to boot. look around on your motherboard for a reset switch which will reset the cpu to normal speed, or an underclocking switch which will typically reduce it to half the normal speed. chances are the pc still wont boot up straight away as the pc's cirtcuits will still be recovering, cpu cooling back down and the capacitors discharging etc.

check to see if your motherboard has any overclocking safety features first, before even thinking about overclocking! some CPU's will fry on even the slightest speed increase, depending on the cooling, age/condition, grade of silicon, or manufacturers design.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 10:16
What El Goorf said.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 11:17
Quote: "Most CPU's can live up to around 80celcius/175farenheit"


Quite unlike my desktop which has been totally stable for months at 102C due to a failed fan. (Only just found out that the fan was dud.)

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 11:52
Quote: "Most CPU's can live up to around 80celcius/175farenheit"


You'll find that most CPU's start to fail when they reach 120 celcius. My CPU runs at 60 celcius on full load, thanks to my super duper heatsink and the overall small heat foot print of the Core2 architecture.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 15:28
Quote: "My CPU runs at 60 celcius on full load, thanks to my super duper heatsink and the overall small heat foot print of the Core2 architecture."


mine runs with a 2ghz->2.8ghz overclock at 45 celcius on full load, thanks to a standard stock heatsink and fan (£3.99) and a bit of OCZ thermal paste

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Posted: 7th Aug 2008 01:15
Quote: "Overlocking?

Well i have never done it so I have no clue what to do and what is does I heard it it's better why? Also how?"

It's what happens when you lock something too much. Sufferers of OCD are more likely to overlock than most people.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2008 03:11
I was wondering who'd point out the spelling error first! I loves you Saik.

Overclocking is done in different ways. On my computer, the motherboard manufacturer gave me this dorky overclocking software that changed the FSB a little bit. I think I could only go about a hundred megahertz before the computer restarted and reset the BIOS . I believe you can also use the BIOS software to change the clock settings (tap delete as your computer boots up).

For the video card, Nvidia and ATI both have software to overclock their cards. On Nvidia its called "nTune", I'm not sure what its called for ATI. Be careful not to overclock too much or it could potentially damage your system (probably not though).

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Posted: 7th Aug 2008 14:55
Quote: "I'm not sure what its called for ATI"


ATI doesnt have a separate overclocking tool for their cards, it's included as part of the driver software.

like motherboards, most graphics cards which allow you to overclock the gpu will also come with safety measures that'll reset the cards clock settings if they're becoming unstable or overheating.

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