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JoelJ
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In my opinion, there is no superior OS. They all have their purposes that out perform the next. Personally I use Vista, I really really like it. I won't turn back to XP. I don't miss XP other than I know exactly how to use it to do whatever I need it to do, and I'm still getting used to Vista. Anyway, but I use Windows specifically because it runs the average game with 0 problems and it has Visual Studio. Not just that but it's user friendly. Which is how I like it.

But that doesn't mean that Linux or Mac OS X aren't user friendly or can't play games. So I was thinking, what OS do you all use, and for what purpose? If a friend came to you and said, "I want a computer do do X" what would X be to suggest Windows? Mac? Linux?

It seems that Linux is the best bet for a server, and I've heard that Mac OS is generally better for graphical rendering.

Remember, this isn't a "Linux roxorz, Windows is teh sux" thread. More like, I would use this to do this rather than that because of this.
Make sense?


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I use XP because it goes like a rocket on this tiny machine. And because it doesn't constantly log, etc. Sitting here, the SSD activity light is unblinking.

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I use XP because it has everything I need on it. I mean I use photoshop and 3ds max but it seems really dumb to have a Mac OS just to say I have it but I still use boot camp to go to windows for stuff anyways. I always chuckle when I hear people using boot camp.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 03:03 Edited at: 6th Aug 2008 03:04
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I use OpenSUSE, Windows XP, and [href=http://g.ho.st/]G.ho.st
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Windows XP supports all my DirectX stuff, I use Linux for development and servers, and G.ho.st for my home away from home.


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I use OS X because I can use it daily for web browsing and light work and it just works, no problems with slow down over time or that kind of thing. It also keeps all my media (mostly music and photos) organised with the included apps.

I also use Vista from time to time because I use Messenger to talk to my friends, there are messaging apps available for OS X but I prefer to know I'm using the same one as the people I'm talking to.

If I had an Intel Mac I would definitely use Windows as well via VM Ware or some such method, I'm not sure which version of Windows I would run but I don't need to worry about that right now.


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Windows XP only because MS likes to make newer things purposely incompatible with Win2k. This is mostly my every day machine, but I also use OS/X quite a bit. Both are used for Java development.


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I use XP because it was cheap and works on my computer, but I'm going to use Vista when my laptop comes because its preinstalled onto it. I use it over Mac though because I like DirectX and I prefer C over Objective C.

I also have Debian installed because it was much faster than Gentoo to get up and running, although it's more difficult to get the recent versions of software onto it.

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I use Vista because it came with this PC. I use Windows because a) I'm used to it, b) it runs all the software I use, and c) MacOS and Linux suck LOL.



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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 13:14 Edited at: 6th Aug 2008 13:15
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I use Ubuntu Hardy Heron and Windows Vista. Would use Windows XP to, if that laptop woun´t be broken (the power supply thing has died, so I have to get a new one). Have also used OpenSUSE in a virtual machine called Virtual Box.

Ubuntu I use for everyday stuff, like writing, surfing and music stuff, Vista is for surfing the web or for games. Both systems have their pros and cons, and even though I personally prefer Ubuntu, Vista has its good sides to.

Have also used DSL in Virtual Box, Puppy Linux in QEMU, and may have tested some others (do not really remember).

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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 14:47 Edited at: 6th Aug 2008 14:50
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Because I like it and it fits my needs. Then again, I triple boot Windows XP, Windows Vista and Linux Ubuntu Hardy Heron on one PC, and use Mac OSX whenever there's a Mac nearby.

Normal users I recommend Windows Vista Home Premium.
Business users I recommend Windows Vista Business.
People that dislike Windows I recommend Linux or a Mac.
People that are techy and like toying around I recommend Linux.
Creative users I recommend Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard .


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Posted: 6th Aug 2008 15:19 Edited at: 6th Aug 2008 15:23
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Windows Vista:

Came with the computer, I was scared that I'd run into the nightmare I had when XP first came out...so far, so good - Vista has been reliable and it still does what I want with no trouble...almost no trouble - for some reason the demo of Cinema 4D 10 32-bit likes to crash the whole computer once in a while, which isn't good when you plan to buy it. DBP runs fine, C++ runes fine, my other 3D apps run fine, as do my games. No complaints. Plus I get the advantage of DirectX 10 for games.

Vista does as its told and I'm not having the problems I used to have before XP had a service pack. Admittedly I am tempted to get a copy of XP to put on my other partition just so I can have something that'll run Cinema 4D flawlessly and because I've gotten so used to XP - but that idea is deterred by the fact I don't have an XP disk and my first partion is nearly full and my second is almost half full, so it's out of the question.


I've used MacOSX, I love it, but it's not practical entirely for my needs - though if I get a lot of money I might buy a really high spec MacPro, stick Windows on a partition, buy Unity3D, Cinema 4D Studio, Zbrush and do my game dev/rendering on the Mac side and gaming on the Windows side. Of course I'd probably need a budget of £6000 for my 'dream' working environment. Well...if I was being realistic that is...if I wasn't I'd be closer to £15,000 for a dream setup.

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I run Mac OS 10.5 and dualboot Windows XP on it, I use mac because well, I got a mac, I was looking for a new computer and a mac seemed pretty reasonable to buy so I just got it, I didn't care about the OS I just adapted to it. So that's pretty much it. And I'm happy this thread doesn't seem to turn into an OS War (Yet) they're so idiotic.


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Forgot to say why I use the OSs I use.

Ubuntu Hardy Heron:

Just have very good chemistry with it. We work very well together, and it fits my needs. It also makes me feel free.

Windows Vista:

Tired of XP (XP is not bad, just have used it soo much I want something new), want something new, and I need a version of Windows for things like gaming and the bank (who does not support Ubuntu for a thing).

Quote: "And I'm happy this thread doesn't seem to turn into an OS War (Yet) they're so idiotic."


Me to .

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I feel I should point out that I only use Vista because it came pre-installed, when I only paid £140 for the computer I wasn't going to cough up another £80-ish to downgrade to xp.

I would have been happy with XP because it does everything I need (runs Messenger and the few old pc games I have) but I'm just as happy with Vista.


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im running vista on my main desktop for everyday stuff such as gaming and my laptop has xp for traveling and what not.


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I used to use Windows XP but got tired of formatting always 1 or 2 years when it got screwed

Personally XP is good system but sometimes it has weird bugs that only occurs to some users and on some hardware.. Well usually these bugs arent in XP but in software that is coded all right but xp is handling it wrong.

Anyways ive had good times with Windows but switched to Ubuntu Hardy and see if i get any issues or formatting.. So far so good. The computer is much faster! I dont need to run Anti-Virus or anything and its really good looking OS and very user friendly.. Havent got any issues so far that i would not solve.

But i must admit linux (even Ubuntu) is not good for new people at computers because it needs much bigger computer knowledge than windows on some parts but if it has all pre-installed and configurated it can be lay out to any user propaply.. But still i would install windows to all guys who cant install themself because it can run most of apps and is most user friendly.

Perhaps all issues i had with Vista was because my computer is not that good So i cancel all bad things i said about vista lol It seems most of you are really pleased of it.

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Quote: "I use Vista because it came with this PC. I use Windows because a) I'm used to it, b) it runs all the software I use"


Same for me. I didn't copy the last reason because I'm sure those have legitimate reasons to be used over Windows.
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I use windows so I can look outside without having to open the door. Hahahahaha................um.


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I use Mac OS X 10.4 (I have yet to upgrade) for most work (modeling, texturing, web design, global domination). I also have Windows XP on my PC, which I pretty much just use for gaming and DarkBasic.
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Posted: 7th Aug 2008 20:14 Edited at: 7th Aug 2008 20:23
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I use Linux Ubuntu Beryl. It runs all windows applications under WINE, it can open ANY format(and when I say ANY, I mean ANY), it has a very cool graphics interface, and is extremely user friendly (Ubuntu in Africa means "Man-friendly") and : IT`S ALL FOR FREE!

It runs faster, you don`t have any security leaks, and it has soooo many add ons like Accessories, Education, Games, Graphics(Model makers, image makers), Internet, Office, Programming(C,C++,Java,OpenGL,Html,PHP,Python,Basic...), Sound and Video, and of course, WINE.

Also, there are 100`000 Viruses out there that where programmed for windows, but only 10 for Linux. And even those ten viruses can`t harm the computer badly. The worst that can happen, is that your account is ruined... But not the OS like in Windows.

Ubuntu Beryl

I still don`t know why everyone likes windows...

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EDIT: THIS is what I think of Vista!

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Windows Vista Ultimate on my desktop. I <3 it so far. I use XP Media Center on my laptop. Also <3 it. I do have an upgrade DVD for my laptop to put Vista Home Premium onto it, but I'm opting not to as it's too close to the recommended specs to run Vista. I don't feel like dealing with slowing the laptop down when XP is just fine.

I use Windows OS's because they do everything I need it to do. It runs all my software. It's easy to set up and use. I almost never have issues with my computers. Most issues I get are with hardware failure rather than major problems with the OS or software. Frankly I don't really understand how people are so good at destroying their computers and acquiring viruses (virii?)...

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Quote: "Also, there are 100`000 Viruses out there that where programmed for windows, but only 10 for Linux. And even those ten viruses can`t harm the computer badly. The worst that can happen, is that your account is ruined... But not the OS like in Windows.
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I'm sure many many more have been made and released, but you avoid 90% by not downloading questionable files anyway.


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Quote: "I'm sure many many more have been made and released, but you avoid 90% by not downloading questionable files anyway."


There are more then 10 for Linux, but they are nothing in comparisment to how many there exist for Windows.

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...none of which have done anything to me in the four and a half years I've used XP SP1 without antivirus.

Pwnt.

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@Nex, I don't recommend that, but hey... I run without firewalls and AV protection as well... It's not that hard to avoid getting virus and spyware.

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Quote: "...none of which have done anything to me in the four and a half years I've used XP SP1 without antivirus.

Pwnt.
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Except you constantly complain about your machine being slow? Without AV you can't tell whether a virus or other trash are to blame for your PC's poor performance, so you can't claim viruses haven't done anything to you/your machine


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Quote: "EDIT: THIS is what I think of Vista!"

That was a stupid video. Vista had problems at first with drivers. But that's the driver's developer's fault, not windows, and even if it is, that's all sorted out now. me loves vista

I use windows because it's user-friendly and I'm used to it. And I don't have to emulate windows with wine to run the programs I want. Besides that, wine isn't perfect. I have yet to see someone get Visual Studio running on linux. And that's one of the big things keeping me from switching over. I love VS

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If I were going to be just a casual Web surfer, paper writer, etc. Just basic things. I would use linux, because it's cheep.


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Quote: "Except you constantly complain about your machine being slow?"


I've ran virus scans in the past using trialware to humour people. I can run one for you if you like?

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I've ran virus scans in the past using trialware to humour people. I can run one for you if you like?"


I can't wait to see your machine once XSS attacks start carrying worms etc. Avoiding "obviously bad" things will work to a point, but once security vulnerabilities become harder to distinguish / blended threats, your own ignorant assumption that AV is for some reason unnecessary will come back to kick you up the ass


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I can't even tell you the last time I got a virus... it's been a LONG time.


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ok i just installed Ubuntu so now i am dual booting xp and Ubuntu on my laptop and vista on my desktop woot woot!!!!!!!! say woot woot if you like ubuntu and linux


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Quote: "I can't wait to see your machine once XSS attacks start carrying worms etc."


I'll bet dimes to donuts his machine will be fine. Windows is not nearly as exploit ridden as people think.

I remember one time my friend got his computer virus and spyware ridden because for some reason he decided to download "ActiveX 2.0" when the colorful website asked him to. Then he fell for the 'ol "You have a million viruses that only our product can detect, Download it for Free" trick. Luckily Safe Mode still worked so I was able to install Spybot and AntiVir. I told him not to trust sites that ask you to install stuff anymore, hopefully that stuck .

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Guys, calm down, we all know Windows might have more viruses, but that those can be avoided with the thing that is called "common sense".

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Quote: "I told him not to trust sites that ask you to install stuff anymore, hopefully that stuck"

Quote: "but that those can be avoided with the thing that is called "common sense"."


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I still don`t know why everyone likes windows...
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Simple, read the posts of people in this thread who have Windows. Sure we have to use an Anti-virus, but really it's not as if you don't get them often, unless you're on a site you shouldn't be. Since having Vista, I have had 1 trojan for about 3 seconds whilst Kaspersky: "You have a trojan horse...we have successfully removed your virus, here is a report." The advantages of Windows for me is worth paying £30 a year for decent internet security. Of course it's not the case for everybody, hence there are Linux and MacOS users posting in this thread as well as Windows users.

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David R, I've already read much of that page since you first mentioned it. And if worms start to use that, I doubt AV will be capable of defending against them for at least a week. Which in computing terms is an eternity.

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Any decent AV will use heuristics on some level (although it's not 100% effective, "obvious" viral behaviour is usually beaten quite easily). Also, a week is quite a big exaggeration - lots of AV corps. respond fairly quickly (24 hr).

If anything, OS patches are going to take the longest amount of time: which are your only bet if you're infected by a virus exploiting OS flaws and have no AV (Not to mention the fact you're running SP1).

Overall, I just think you're a tad stupid. You say you've been unaffected etc. So what? People who run across busy roads will also avoid getting hit 8 out of 10 times. It doesn't make it safe.

You will be screwed over by a virus eventually. It's practically inevitable. Even with your own vigilance, some outside source can easily give a you a virus (e.g. network worm spreads if you plug into another network, etc.) and by not using AV, you're effectively just making it 110% sure that you get completely screwed over by said virus if it ever arrives.

You have the ability to protect yourself from a threat with something that is free, but you're not making use of it. Completely beyond my understanding (I mean, it's not even necessary to use on-access AV if you're so sure you're vigilant all the time - and even open source scanners can handle manual virus scanning)


EDIT: Also of interest on the no AV topic (although not 100% relevant to XP) is the following: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/08/08/vista39s-security-rendered-completely-useless-by-new-exploit Looks like it won't be long until we have a whole host of Vista flaws too :/


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I use XP 'cause it came on this computer when I got it.

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Quote: "ok i just installed Ubuntu so now i am dual booting xp and Ubuntu on my laptop and vista on my desktop woot woot!!!!!!!! say woot woot if you like ubuntu and linux
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Woot woot!!

This might interest you:

How to Install Ubuntu Beryl

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@the comet

in the newer versions of ubuntu like what i have you can install compiz-fusion which is basically beryl. since beryl is no long a supported project they merged it.


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Good to know. I must still be in the middle ages with my ubuntu...

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Whooops! Double post! Sorry...

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in the newer versions of ubuntu like what i have you can install compiz-fusion which is basically beryl. since beryl is no long a supported project they merged it."


That is partly true. It has the wobbly windows, but not the rain, title waves, burning, exploding and rotating cube effects.

And the windows in compiz-fusion don`t bend as extremely as in beryl.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2008 23:02
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Uh, yes it does. It has all that and more! You'll want to install Compiz Configuration Utility to make it easy to setup. (I think you just search in the package manager for compiz and it'll show up at the top).

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530988


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