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Matt Rock
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Matt finally has his gorgeous Playstation 3. That's why you haven't seen me around this past week, that and the fact that my girlfriend and I are apartment hunting, and I've been trying to keep up with work on REM. I got the grand-daddy of all PS3's, the 80-gig, in a package deal with MGS4 and a Dualshock SIXAXIS. I'd already had extensive playing time on PS3's in the past, but I finally have one of my very own. But, there's a problem already!

I've been playing GTA4 religiously since getting my PS3 on 7/31. Last night I fired it up at about 7pm, and quit playing at around 3:30am, pausing for half an hour to watch Not Going Out. When I was done, I went to quit the game, but everything froze on me. I powered it down, figuring the game just froze. This afternoon I turned the PS3 on, and now there's a bunch of little flickering blue dots all over the screen (they don't move, they just flicker in place). I log in, I start GTA4, and... frozen. Black screen with nothing going on, and the hard drive stops doing stuff. I installed Metal Gear Solid (I don't want to play it until I thoroughly beat GTA4), and the blue dots were on the screen the whole time, but the game started up fine and everything worked normally apart from those stupid dots. I put GTA4 back in, and the same thing happens. So I can't work out if it's a problem with my PS3, or a problem with GTA4, or even a problem with my PS3 because of GTA4.

And that's karma for you. I have tons of friends and family members with PS3's, and they've never had a single issue with the console. One friend broke hers by spilling stuff on it, and apart from her stupidity, nothing. Everyone praises the PS3 as the most reliable of the three consoles... and I get the one that doesn't work. They only had two 80-gig PS3's at Toys R Us, they sell out quickly and I was lucky enough to get one before they did. $100 says the other PS3 is fine and the person who bought it hasn't had a single issue. That's always been my luck, lol. Not bad enough to feel sorry for me, but always just bad enough to keep me on the edge of going postal . And since they're sold out, my only option is to mail my PS3 in to Sony to have them replace it. That's great and all, it's free to do (they mail you a box for postage and all that), but like I said before, I'm in the process of moving and who knows how long it'll take to get here. So I can wait a while until we move, then mail it in, or I can mail it out now and hope it gets back before we move. Either way, I can't play my PS3, and god hates me.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2008 00:10 Edited at: 8th Aug 2008 00:11
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Put simply, Sh*t happens. Get over yourself - it's far from being a "Oh my God my life is over" moment


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 8th Aug 2008 00:17
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I never said "oh my god my life is over." It's just a huge nuisance, and a bit ironic.

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But it's a bit over the top with the "God hates me" thing don't you think? It's a game console. That broke. Where is the massive God-hating-you dilemma in this?


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Jeku
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Posted: 8th Aug 2008 00:32 Edited at: 8th Aug 2008 00:33
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Welcome to my world-- my 360 had to be flat-out replaced three times. Anything with moving parts is bound to break down at a certain point. It's under warranty and yes, it sucks, but if that's your biggest problem in life then you're lucky.

Matt, you love your melodramas don't you


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Dare I say it or even make a mockery of the whole thing, put people love a man with a lot of passion.

But yes sad truth is there are faulty systems and some people are more prone to 'bad luck' than others - look on the bright-side, it's only a few days old, surely it's covered by the warrantee...it just means you can't play GTAIV for a few days, judging by your addiction to it it'll be torture.

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Matt Rock
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The "god hates me" line is aimed at how I have a constant stream of bad luck lately. It wasn't meant to come across as melodramatic so much as sarcastic and ironic . I didn't really think it through very well before posting it because only two or three people on TGC know me well enough/ talk to me regularly enough to have gotten the joke.

What really irks me is that I got my PS2 when it came out, and I didn't have a problem with it until October or November of 2006. My old PS1... heck, that probably still works. And I don't know anyone whose had a problem with their PS3 yet, shy of one or two people on TGC who've had issues. So it's pretty ironic that I, a known Sony fanboy, have this problem . And I can't find anything online about other people having a similar issue, so I think the gaming gods may have invented a special problem just for me, lol.

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Well in that case it's definitely karma, God, buddha and Krishna all hate you for being a Sony fanboy. It must be a sign.

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Lol, Matt, you should write romans instead of games. If you can extend "My PS3 broke!" to an extensive story about karma and that stuff, you have all the ingredients to write a bestseller.


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Never had a problem with my Wii. I find it really funny though, my DS broke (It suffered from that crack on the hinge) so I had to pay $50 to get it fixed, but anyway it's fine now my point is, I have a Gameboy pocket and I still play on it and it's like never broken! I have a SNES and a Sega Megadrive and neither have ever broken!

It's quite funny that the old stuff lasts and the new tech has all the problems. lol.


Sorry to hear about that Matt, I hope it all get's sorted out!

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Yah those older systems seem to last forever because they have no moving parts


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Exactly, I however think the Wii has a good system for taking in CD's. I think both the 360 and PS3 should adopt the Mac like system. Seriously, I hate it when the tray dosent lock correctly and it cant find the disk or it dosent open and I have to try and pry it open. Those things would be fixed easily!

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Jeku
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The PS3 takes in its discs in the same way as the Wii--- there's no tray. Or is that not what you mean?


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My Wii's method of taking in discs is to accept them, run them and then declare I should check the disc, even if I just took it out of the box. It's been a lot better since I put drive cleaner in it, but still occasionally problems happen. I haven't tried Brawl in it yet. As Brawl is the only dual-layer game out I know of, it should be an... experience getting it to play.

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Quote: " The PS3 takes in its discs in the same way as the Wii--- there's no tray. Or is that not what you mean?
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yeah that causes problems, when I had a ps3 it got jammed up sometimes when taking a disc.


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the ps3 has a 0.02% chance of failing or being faulty to the 33% of the default xbox or the 10% of the xbox lite lol


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Quote: "the ps3 has a 0.02% chance of failing or being faulty to the 33% of the default xbox or the 10% of the xbox lite lol
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And you have obviously clear facts that these assumptions are true? That there is EXACTLY a .02% chance on a PS3 failing?


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Quote: "That there is EXACTLY a .02% chance on a PS3 failing?"


well thats apparently from statistics, though that is from Sony so that might just be biased

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=129410
http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

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Quote: "the ps3 has a 0.02% chance of failing or being faulty to the 33% of the default xbox or the 10% of the xbox lite lol
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I assume those statistics are also related to market share as well?


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An odd update: other than those weird blue dots all over the screen, and flickering textures, MGS4 works fine, but GTA4 doesn't work. I've downloaded demos from the Playstation store, and those play fine, as do trailers... but again, those little blue dots won't go away. It's a bit strange that GTA won't play, but everything else will, and that those dots won't go away regardless of what I do. I was hoping to find a fix online, but nope .

I think consoles should all have maintenance utilities built into them. If something like this happened on my PC, I could most likely diagnose and fix the problem without having to replace hardware, but console makers always have you send in the broken gear. Is it impossible for them to include some form of diagnostic/ repair utilities with the PS3 and 360 (and the Wii if those have similar issues)? Or are they afraid users will do more harm than good? Because quite frankly, I knew more about the PS3 than any of the people I spoke with at customer service... I was left wondering if any of them have had any face-time with the PS3 at all

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i wonder if PS3 has some kind of BIOS reset feature.. That may fix it.. Not sure tho and if its not in manual then opening PS3 and finding BIOS reset button can be a bit hassle.

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Quote: "Yah those older systems seem to last forever because they have no moving parts"
Moving parts? Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean like the CD drives?


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Yes, there's no spinning media in the older consoles, so they could last a long time.


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Aye, mechanical systems tend to go wrong far more often and there's also the laws of increasing complexity. The by increasing the complexity of a system, you're adding more components that have a possibility of going wrong. Hence the probability of something going wrong, with the whole, increases. Simple stuff simply lasts longer .

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If you suspect it may be an overheat, there's a fan test mode somewhere... Google may be your friend.

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The fan test thingy I think is done by holding the eject button when switching the power switch on the back BUT I don't think Sony recommend doing it yourself. I have a feeling its purely there for engineers to test the fans are working and clean out any rubbish in them.


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It shouldn't be overheating, in fact it's pretty cool when it runs. I expected it to set my house on fire with the number of vents the thing has, lol. But it runs extremely cool. I keep it in a ventilated cabinet to protect it from dust and ciggy smoke .

Eh, at least I get to enjoy MGS4 until I return the PS3 after I move, though some weird things are happening on the screen. Textures are flashing/ flickering, particularly on characters. If I were slightly epileptic, I think it would be horrendous for me. I just wish it held out until after I moved lol. I think I should get a free SIXAXIS dualshock for my trouble .

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Quote: "An odd update: other than those weird blue dots all over the screen, and flickering textures, MGS4 works fine, but GTA4 doesn't work. I've downloaded demos from the Playstation store, and those play fine, as do trailers... but again, those little blue dots won't go away. It's a bit strange that GTA won't play, but everything else will, and that those dots won't go away regardless of what I do. I was hoping to find a fix online, but nope"


Have you tried lowering the resolution? I get that on my 360 when I set the resolution higher than 1080i on some games. I haven't had that happen on my PS3 and it's running at 1080p.

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Quote: "in a package deal with MGS4 and a Dualshock SIXAXIS"


I don't know if this is worth anything, but the Dualshock 3 and SIXAXIS controllers are different controllers. They just use the same wireless technology (Bluetooth).
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Quote: "Have you tried lowering the resolution? I get that on my 360 when I set the resolution higher than 1080i on some games. I haven't had that happen on my PS3 and it's running at 1080p."

Yes sadly, from 720p to 480i. At 480i, the dots are much smaller, but they still show up

Quote: "I don't know if this is worth anything, but the Dualshock 3 and SIXAXIS controllers are different controllers. They just use the same wireless technology (Bluetooth)."

Nope, there's a Dualshock SIXAXIS controller as well. I know... I have one, lol. Though you're right, it's only called Dualshock 3. But it does most certainly have the SIXAXIS feature. That, or the wind was moving my sticks while playing Grand Theft Auto IV and using that feature, lol. Or maybe a ghost . Not sure if you meant the Dualshock 3 doesn't have SIXAXIS, or if it isn't called that. But I've heard people say Dualshock 3 doesn't have the SIXAXIS feature, and I can't figure out why everyone thinks that.

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No one thinks that.

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Maybe I'm wrong Chris, but didn't you say that at some point in one of the countless console war threads? I had you and a few others in mind when I said that, lol.

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Quote: "But I've heard people say Dualshock 3 doesn't have the SIXAXIS feature, and I can't figure out why everyone thinks that."


It's probably because they're confusingly named. The original SIXAXIS control has been withdrawn - so naturally, it would imply that the technology inside it doesn't exist in the Dualshock 3. Obviously that's wrong, but I can see why people make the mistake.

They shouldn't have called the original controller the same name as the technology inside of it :/


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Quote: "shouldn't ... same name as the technology inside of it"


Fine, let's call it "Oak Tree". And what's that it connects to? A "Carburettor".

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They should have could it Sony's Lean Mean Fat-reducing grilling machine, a new range of premier George Foreman grills. Yes this is pettiness coming from Seppuku. But I've always fancied cooking a steak on one of those! For some reason my flatemate has 2 George foremans and he won't let us cook on the one in his bedroom, never understand why he has to have his steak cooked on a £400 grill and we can't. I swear he gets up in the middle of the night and cooks himself a steak on that thing, not seen him do it, but I'll catch him one day.

Disclaimer: To any fools out there, Sony is not affiliated with George Foreman or his grills in anyway, so any attempts at grilling a steak on one is stupid and irrational, if you prefer your steak medium rare then get yourself a 360, alternatively you can get a George foreman for less tht £100, however, a George Foreman won't play your games.

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Quote: "Yes, there's no spinning media in the older consoles, so they could last a long time."

My NES still works perfectly - the games not so much, but mainly.

My PS2 works great - DVD drive in it broke once but my friend fixed it (I'm not familiar with hardware). My AV plugin slot in the back - however - is broken and requires jiggling before the picture is clear and the sound can be heard. :/ Had it since it came out.

Also, my SNES works great apart from if it gets barely touched while being played the ROM loses all of it's save states.

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At least you're not having my problem. My computer broke and I'm going on my 3rd xbox 360.

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Quote: "ROM loses all of it's save states."


The Read-Only-Memory stores savegames? That's a new one on me. (Sorry, I'm in an inexcusable picky mode today. NeX.picky = true

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Quote: "The Read-Only-Memory stores savegames?"

Hah, I was going to comment on this.

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Quote: "Fine, let's call it "Oak Tree". And what's that it connects to? A "Carburettor".
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So you reckon Windows Vista should be called "DirectX 10" then? And new computers should just be branded "Processor"?

Having two things with the same name is stupid, and confusing for consumers (SIXAXIS controller, and the SIXAXIS technology). Hence why a lot of people think the Dualshock 3 doesn't have the SIXAXIS stuff inside it - because the actual SIXAXIS controller has been discontinued.


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