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Geek Culture / Fox vs Warner Bros in 'Watchmen' court case

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Quote: "Warner Bros. is scheduled to release Zack Snyder's big-screen adaptation of the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons comics series on March 6, but a federal judge in Los Angeles complicated that plan Wednesday when he refused to dismiss a lawsuit filed by 20th Century Fox against Warners over rights to the property.

Judge Gary Allen Fees ruled that Fox has established enough evidence to support its claims that it holds the distribution rights to the film version of the 1980s graphic novel about damaged superheroes.

Asserting what it calls its "long-standing motion picture rights" to "Watchmen," Fox said Monday that it will ask the court to "enjoin the release of the Warner Brothers film and any related 'Watchmen' media that violate our copyright interests in that property.""


Warner Bros have spent 12 million on the film 'The Watchmen,' an on screen adaptation of the popular graphic novel, set for release on 03,06,09. However, Fox are now claiming that they still own the rights to the movie, from their attempted 1991 adaptation. Rather than trying to make a claim to some of the profit from the film, they're trying to prevent its release all together.

What do you think of this? This is, yet again, fox making a very unexpected decision.

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I think we need Jeremy Clarkson on the case...


He got in trouble for 'admitting' he likes running down foxes on national television.

Broom broom, look it's Rupert Murdoch, 1000 points if you can hit him.

In other words I think Fox are being silly, though legally speaking they do have the rights to the movie, but it's a bit cruel to say "don't release it" when they've spent $12mil on the film, but it's a dog eat dog world. Fox probably would benefit more from taking a profit from the movie, though I don't know how successful their 1991 release is and what the sales are currently, but I've never seen it or even looked at the case, so it can't be selling in the masses as much WB's version would and if they can snag a percentage of their profit then bonus for them!

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Quote: "hough I don't know how successful their 1991 release is"

Someone had a strop and it never got finished.

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lame...
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When I saw the previews to this movie, I actually laughed because it looked so horrible.

Quote: "Rather than trying to make a claim to some of the profit from the film, they're trying to prevent its release all together"

So, if I'm reading this right, if Fox gets Watchmen, they won't release it?

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Quote: "So, if I'm reading this right, if Fox gets Watchmen, they won't release it?"

Well, according to their case, technically they already have watchmen. But I doubt that they'll try to make another adaptation, not after their first one flopped.
Quote: "I actually laughed because it looked so horrible. "

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Posted: 21st Aug 2008 04:14 Edited at: 21st Aug 2008 04:14
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If Fox owns the rights to the movie, then they deserve to bar the release. If another company made a Mario game, do you think Nintendo would just offer to get a percentage of the sales? No, they'd just kill the game. If WB doesn't own the proper rights, then they deserve to lose the $12 million.

I don't see why this has to be a Rupert Murdoch bashfest either


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Quote: "If WB doesn't own the proper rights, then they deserve to lose the $12 million.
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The problem is, Fox have waited until the film was completely finished and being advertised before they made their move, rather than before production started.

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Quote: "I don't see why this has to be a Rupert Murdoch bashfest either "


I think you find I wasn't be serious.


But shutting it down when they're about to lose $12million is a bit unfair, especially as INH has just said, they could have stopped it earlier - just a poke to remind WB "Look, we still have the rights, back down".

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If Fox had known they had the rights to the movie from the start, and was just holding off on claiming it until the movie was finished then obviously that's not fair. But if Fox just realized it, then I guess it's arguable as to how fair it is. That's too bad, I was looking forward to this movie.

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It has to be said, WB's argument is pretty weak, something about how Fox gave up the rights when their partner (I don't know who) gave up on them.

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Business isn't fair. It obviously made more sense for Fox to litigate at the present time. Maybe they did raise a lawsuit earlier but it wasn't made public? We don't have all the details, right.


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No of course business isn't fair, and of course we don't always accept or like the idea - but I suppose some of us like the idea of decency and not stabbings in the dark. But you're right we don't have all the info, so maybe when the story unfolds?

Still, I like the idea of running down Rupert Murdoch in a car...just hope he carries his credit card and any vault codes with him. If so, I'll be the richest man in prison.

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Thats only if you get caught.

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Well aren't fox being a little brat? I mean come on even DC Comics are already making Action figures for the warner bros film. Fox should give up the lawsuit, considering that DC Comics are making figurines. This means that they have signed a agreement.
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DC ought to know who owned the rights in the first place surely? Unless they simply forgot about Fox.

Quote: "Thats only if you get caught."


What are you suggesting? That I'm dishonest, no, if I ran over Rupert Murdoch and stole his money, I'd hand myself in out of decency for society. If I'm going to be a murderer, I'll at least keep my dignity as a gentleman.

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Strange that they aren't releasing it, but if they own the rights, they own the rights.
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Quote: "I don't see why this has to be a Rupert Murdoch bashfest either"

You obviously haven't watched "Outfoxed."

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Well this is interesting. Consider DC is owned by Warner Bros. I would've assumed WB had the rights to begin with.

But yeah Fox and WB just need to settle this. Apparently Fox doesn't want the movie released at all. (Jackass move if this is true). And it wouldn't be fair if only Kevin Smith got to see it. (He said it was fantastic).

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Quote: "You obviously haven't watched "Outfoxed.""


That makes no difference. Anytime Fox is mentioned on this forum we get into a Rupert Murdoch bashfest. It's annoying and tiring.


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