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Guyon
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Building a new PC and looking for input.

I am worried about Vista (software compatibility with my $$$ programs) and was thinking about sticking with XP. Will XP pro power a quad core machine? What is the difference between XP pro's like (System Builders
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bitJericho
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Vista's good. Do a thread search for Vista for info. Seriously, this has been discussed a hundred times on these boards :S


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UnderLord
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No windows XP pro will not support a quad core, infact it doesn't even support dual cores, but yet it will still show all cores in the task manager regardless and you can still set affinity's however it will not optimize the power of dual or quad cores. If you go with a AMD system with DDR2 1066 make sure you get a quad core or the system will automatically run the ram at DDR2 800.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Are you sure it doesn't support multicore? I'm pretty sure it does, even if it isn't perfectly implemented. I'm fairly certain that many games split loading and the game itself between cores. Am I mistaken? Are all multicore XP systems a waste of space?

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Quote: "you can still set affinity's however it will not optimize the power of dual or quad cores."


Care to elaborate?


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Quote: "Care to elaborate?"


While programs designed for multi-core CPU's will make use of the multi-core, Windows XP itself is not multi-core optimized; Vista is.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Ah, I see. So it'll make no difference on the most part then, just maybe slightly longer loading and lowered responsiveness around Windows. Which I must say, neither of which are a problem for me.

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Guyon
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Quote: "While programs designed for multi-core CPU's will make use of the multi-core, Windows XP itself is not multi-core optimized; Vista is."


So even if Vista is multi-core optimized. How does that effect program that are not multi-core optimized running in Vista as opposed to Windows XP?

Thanks guy this is really help me make big decisions and I do have a number of not new but expensive pieces of software. especially 3d stuff.
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Posted: 21st Sep 2008 23:23 Edited at: 21st Sep 2008 23:28
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To be honest i use xp for all my music software on a dual core and it`s much more effcient than vista is at audio recording and such , which is very cpu intensive .

There is a patch which you can get from microsoft and some settings to change in boot.ini which makes xp support dual cores better, there is a couple of tut`s on the web here and there i will dig them out for ya`ll .

Don`t know about quad cores though , just my thoughts .



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http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=545980

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Quote: "So even if Vista is multi-core optimized. How does that effect program that are not multi-core optimized running in Vista as opposed to Windows XP?"


I'm not 100% sure, to be honest. I will say this: Vista is much better and managing system resources than XP, whether that be CPU usage or RAM usage or even HDD usage! (There is an entirely new HDD usage system that is much more efficient than XP's.)

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bitJericho
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What software do you have? Honestly, I haven't had much of anything fail on me in vista.


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Guyon
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I know Vista fails with Game Maker (I am really upset abut that), I have not found any definite answer that my 3ds max 7 will worth either. And it looks like my SwishMax 2003 may not work as well.

My biggest problem is that most of the people that say vista works fine with do not run as many obscure program.

Anyone running XP with a quad core? Will I really hurt myself by sticking with XP pro? If not which XP pro should I buy?
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bitJericho
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which vista should you buy you mean? Go with home premium or ultimate.

As for obscure programs, I run all sorts of freeware games and haven't come up with problems.

http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/15741/#79466

Check out this thread, appears there's a fix towards the bottom of the thread.


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