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Geek Culture / Where can i buy and of these laptop graphics cards?

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GamerDude
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2008 04:46 Edited at: 23rd Sep 2008 04:47
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-8800m
-7900m
-9800m
-9600m

plz gv me a hand.



new or used, i dont care.
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Mahoney
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2008 04:55
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You can't install them yourself without a lot of hard researching and work, as far as I know; that is, if it's even possible to do yourself.

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Darth Vader
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2008 05:27
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I went through this as well. It's impossible to install a new graphics card into a laptop. The main reasons are,
1. Power - Your laptop might not have enough juice to support it.
2. Heat - Even if you had enough power the extra heat would probably kill you laptop.
Your laptop will probably not support the graphics card anyway, remember they have to squeeze all the parts, into a smaller space then a desktop, and trying to get a new bigger card in wont fit!

Just my 5 cents anyhow.


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Sid Sinister
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Not only that, but most laptop graphics cards are built into the motherboard itself. At least to my knowledge.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2008 18:53
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mine has a mini pci-e 8600mgs graphics card. need upgrade for crysis, gta 4, far cry 2 and fpsc x10.
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flickenmaste
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I has a 8600 and crysis can run on full(maybe just my laptop rocks)

and no u cant install GFX cards on a laptop...if u do then well say hello to blue screen


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GamerDude
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Posted: 24th Sep 2008 10:20
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what model is ur laptop? i might buy one. (hopes for god that it is not alienware..) thx
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Agent Dink
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Quote: "and no u cant install GFX cards on a laptop...if u do then well say hello to blue screen "


Yes you can. Some laptops allow you to.

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Mahoney
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Posted: 24th Sep 2008 22:30
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Quote: "Yes you can. Some laptops allow you to."


Not many, though. Even then, it's usually through the manufacturer and other hassles. That's why you should buy a good desktop for games and a laptop with sucky graphics for other stuff.

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General Reed
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Quote: "8600 and crysis can run on full"
- Thats bulls**t. You may be able to set it to full, but it will run like its being rendered in 3dsmax. Ive tryed it on a freinds, with an 8600, thats how i know.

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Mahoney
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Posted: 24th Sep 2008 22:59
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Quote: "Thats bulls**t. You may be able to set it to full, but it will run like its being rendered in 3dsmax. Ive tryed it on a freinds, with an 8600, thats how i know."


I'm on an overclocked 8600 GT (desktop, not mobile; desktop is more powerful), and I'm here to tell you: all settings at High means 20FPS on average (if you have a very nice CPU and a decent level of luck; usually around 15FPS) and 5-10FPS in fights. Seriously, doesn't happen.

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Sasuke
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Posted: 24th Sep 2008 23:00
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flickenmaste, Haha, there's no 8600 GT on earth that can run Crysis on full unless your running it at 320x240. Unless you have an 8600 GT SLI laptop, there's no way.

GamerDude, your in a Mac situation, you want a better laptop, buy a new one. It seems to me that you want to play games like GTA 4 and Crysis and I'm guessing more than an hour at a time, these games will drain the battery in an instant unless your only using the laptop with the power leap pluged in. Why not go for a desktop, custom build to you liking, save a ton of money and have graphics way beyond any laptop for half the price.

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Mahoney
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Posted: 24th Sep 2008 23:03
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Quote: "GamerDude, your in a Mac situation"


Lulz.

Quote: "Why not go for a desktop, custom build to you liking, save a ton of money and have graphics way beyond any laptop for half the price."


Probably the best way to go; you'll get a much better deal, guaranteed.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 02:18 Edited at: 25th Sep 2008 02:21
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Quote: "Quote: "8600 and crysis can run on full"
- Thats bulls**t. You may be able to set it to full, but it will run like its being rendered in 3dsmax. Ive tryed it on a freinds, with an 8600, thats how i know. "


With 8600GT 1gb you can, at 25fps.

I need a laptop so i can use it when i travel, without being plugged in and on performance mode (as if it were plugged in) i get the same results. And the battery lasts up to 2 hrs.

I tried building a desktop, here is what it had.

s775 core 2 duo 2.0ghz
2gbram
8800Gt
120gbhdd

but the mainboard stuffed up and blew up the ram, vga and cpu. My desktop, if i could get a nvidia geforce 7900, id save a tonne of money. (in AGP) My desktop has currently a 6600GT 128mb. Which runs crysis on medium at 20fps until it overheats, then my computer crashes and restarts. My laptop freeses all the time from overheating on standby, i dont know but it is really annoying, and my sound card is supposed to be hd, but since i got windows vista, the sound causes my game to sound wierd and eventually freeze. On XP i had no problem running crysis at 30fps w/ all high but shadows and shaders on med. And that was with the high to very high mod. Here is my current desktop specs:

128mb 6600Gt
1gb DDR400
2x dvd burners
200gb hdd
amd athalon 64 2.1ghz (overclocked stable)

i am on it now. thx

EDIT: Does anyone know where i can get a working driver for sound blaster aud2 zs? i need it for my new sound card. thx

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Mahoney
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 02:21
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Quote: "With 8600GT 1gb you can, at 25fps. "


Not at very high, assuming you even get a hold of a 1GB 8600 (which I don't believe exist; 512MB is the highest I've ever seen); not at a decent resolution, at least. I'm running at 1440x900.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 02:23 Edited at: 25th Sep 2008 02:27
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http://cgi.ebay.com/1GB-nVIDIA-8600GT-1024MB-PCI-Express-8600-GT-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ160284376984QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160284376984&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Buy it now!!
Im going to buy 2 when i can offiord it! awesome craphics card!
Interface PCI Express x16
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Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 8600GT
Core clock 540MHz
Stream Processors 32
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Memory Size 1024MB
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System Requirements A PCI Express compliant motherboard with full-height free slot
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 02:26
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Quote: "http://cgi.ebay.com/1GB-nVIDIA-8600GT-1024MB-PCI-Express-8600-GT-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ160284376984QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160284376984&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Buy it now!!"


Hmm..... Interesting.

Either way, it won't run on Very High at any decent resolution; even with an amazing processor, it just won't keep up.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 02:29 Edited at: 25th Sep 2008 02:30
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Oh yeah, my mate from school put a 8800ultra 769mb in his laptop and played crysis kick arse! it costed him $50 and there was only one.. thx off to rf

[b]he had proof, played it in front of me.
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Quote: "8800ultra 769mb in his laptop"


1) The 8800 Ultra is literally four times as powerful as an 8600 GT, if not 5 or 6 times as powerful.

2) There is no such thing as a mobile 8800 Ultra. The closest thing is the 8800M GTX, and it is somewhere around three times as powerful as the 8600 GT.

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Uncle Sam
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 09:24
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Quote: "With 8600GT 1gb you can, at 25fps."


Who in their right mind would play an fps at 25 frames per second?

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Sasuke
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I can't take this anymore, now your say someone swap out the laptop graphics card for an 8800 Ultra for $50 (haha), firstly it doesn't exist, secondly it would be impossible without changing the entire structure and parts of the laptop, thirdly if it was possible it wouldn't run correctly due to lack of power and dated hardware.

You said your computer and laptop aren't working right, it sounds like your doing something wrong, proberly draining the machine trying to play games like Crysis, the sound card issue is Vistas fault due to there new audio security protocal, there are drivers to get sound cards working on Vista but only for the Xfi series.

Just because you desktop broke down doesn't mean everyone will, but cause you travel you need a laptop, are you working at the moment or are you to young. I need a laptop at the moment for DBP and games, the one i'm getting is a bit over budget, so I'm paying monthly installments but have the option to pay off the entire thing at any time.

25 fps isn't that bad, 30 fps use't to be the norm, though not that great for shooters.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 25th Sep 2008 15:45 Edited at: 25th Sep 2008 15:46
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ok. he was a geek, so he could have edited the windows xp files somehow to make it say that. and he could have edited the crysis cfg too.

Bad news! my 6600Gt just died, i now have a 5200fx 128mb pci installed.

i now need a new vga card & fast!

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Wow, you either have bad luck or your killing your desktop some how, before you buy a GPU ulypu need to locate the problem with the old, there might of been enough power going to it, faulty motherboard, worm/virus, system failure can freeze components.

After that, decent graphics cards are cheap these days, nVidia Geforce 8800 GT is your best bet if you have the money though your other hardware needs to back it up. Anything below that is chump change.

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Quote: "After that, decent graphics cards are cheap these days, nVidia Geforce 8800 GT is your best bet if you have the money though your other hardware needs to back it up."


Definitely get some info on power supply requirements.

Quote: "Who in their right mind would play an fps at 25 frames per second?"


While it sucks for most games, Crysis feels like 45 FPS at 25. It's ridiculous how well they manage that.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 26th Sep 2008 05:38
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the 6600Gt had enough power (a direct input)

I could just buy a crysis ready pc from here for $700..

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4138011&Sku=SYXS-DG-038800
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