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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Zombie Horde - Undead Part 1- Rated F

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fallen one
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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 03:03 Edited at: 2nd Oct 2008 04:17
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Ill be Selling skins for the Model Pack 4 Bikini Girl, the theme is going to be, guess what, yep, that's right zombies, funny thing is, someone posted in a thread that people should make more zombie models, and I added, we have too many of those already, I someone said, you can never have too many zombies. So looks like I joined the band wagon and decided to dance to your tune.

So Ill be posting Zombie textures here, here is the first, Ill be adding quite a few zombie characters of the MP4 pack re skin of the bikini girl here.

Updated picture from the one in the original post.


If anyone is wondering, the mesh is mirrored so that's why the holes are mirrored, its the mesh, not how I textured it, its just a way some UVs are layed out to save space, I didn't make the original UV, so I don't have control over that, still its not to noticeable.

This product is for the texture to re-skin the Bikini Girl model from FPS Creator model pack 4. To use this product you must own a copy of FPS Creator model pack 4.

Textures in .DDS format, 1024x1024 pixel resolution.

Note - this texture uses the Bikini Girl model from FPS Creator model pack 4 available from The Game Creators. FPS Creator model pack 4 does not come with this item so to use this character you must own the original character model and animations that come with FPS Creator model pack 4 available for purchase from The Game Creators website.

For those using this texture for FPS Creator engine, please note, full instructions for using this character for your FPS Creator games are included within this product download.

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GBP 1.99 EUR 2.50 USD 3.50

Go get them from here.

http://www.avantivitastudios.com/zombie_horde_model_1f.html

Orders are done by hand, so please allow time for your order to be processed

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Teh_Spy
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2 things. I think you have to ask Bond1 for permission to sell skins for HIS model. and also, is this going to come with animations and script to make the zombie... do anything?

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 03:46
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What's rated F mean?


Quote: "people should make more zombie models, and I added, we have too many of those already, I someone said, you can never have too many zombies."




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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 06:31 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 06:47
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Quote: "What's rated F mean?"

Female.
I'm into ratings, are you?
Do you know what X rated is, is it the same as X factor, whats triple x rated, XXX, is Castlemaine 4X XXXX - just Good Aussie Beer, or is it one better than XXX. whats one less than XXX, is it WWW.

question is, what is XXX and what is WWW?
First correct answer will get the skin free.

Quote: "you have to ask Bond1 for permission to sell skins for HIS model"


No I don't, as I'm selling a piece of artwork, that artwork is owned by me.

Quote: "is this going to come with animations and script"


No, it will come in its own file, you will copy and paste the files from the bikini girl into this file but not the original skin, you will use this skin instead, full instructions will be given on how to set it up.

But you are right, I am a pirate, pir-ate that is a Pyr (greek) or pyre (Eng) meaning fire. That's right, I eat fire, or illumination, meaning knowledge. And if any one here does, first one to solve the symbology question above can have that zombie skin for free. And the answer to WWW is not world wide web either, before anyone says so.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 06:55
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I think the re texture looks pretty cool.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 17:42
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Quote: "2 things. I think you have to ask Bond1 for permission to sell skins for HIS model. and also, is this going to come with animations and script to make the zombie... do anything?"


He is selling a texture wich he has made, so he dont have to get permission. And since its a texture I guess there wont be any zombie animations.


@fallen one
Its really good stuff you got there.


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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 18:31
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this is how things are: the only thing you can sell, is the texture, not the model, becaouse you didnt made the model but you made the texture =P

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Seth Black
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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 21:20 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 21:32
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...bond1's UV Map is included beneath that texture. Technically, these retextures still contain bond1's intellectual property. Without the UV Map, these textures would be useless.

How's the original license read? Does it make any stipulation regarding selling the asset? If so, you'd best get his approval before you attempt to sell these retextures...


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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 22:04
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Erm.. Seth, dont you think that's taking it a bit far? In the texture it'self, there is NO remains of Bond1's texture. Meaning every part of that image is Fallen's. If he wants to sell it, then there's nothing wrong with that.

If he was selling a pink recolour of bond1's bikini babe, that would be wrong. Because it still included bond's texturework.

But this is fine.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 22:18 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 22:20
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No part of Bond1s texture is in my skins, period!
I re skined this one for a skull face, these will be uploaded soon, Im watching a film on the TV first, then if nothing else is on, Ill start getting them online.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 23:34 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 23:36
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That is correct, but the complicated process of UVMapping which can take hours, sometimes even days with complicated character models is the intellectual property of bond1, and you are not only breaking the license by selling no his own property (UVMAP) but your also breaking the law by technically 'stealing' the property of another, he has the copyright of that UVMAP and your using it so unless he is giving you permission or you have purchased/gotten a written and signed patent off of bond1 giving the copyright to you then you are at a slight disadvantage here. I advise you stop the creation of these models using bond1s UVMAPS until he says you have permission. even then I would prefer to see him type it here for evidence of this.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 00:08
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...I've already contacted him, and asked him to make an appearance.

The final call will be his...


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Bond1 is my hero, this is the only reason I protect his skins >

Seth is also godlike for helping protect Bond's License... FTW!!!

BOND1 = TEH_GODLIKE

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Its bond. honestly, i coulda sworn he LIKES seeing retextures. but hey thats just what my assumption was.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 02:21
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She's a bit symmetrical, don't you think?

Other than that, great work.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 02:57 Edited at: 28th Sep 2008 04:18
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Quote: "She's a bit symmetrical, don't you think?"


From the original post.

Quote: "If anyone is wondering, the mesh is mirrored so that's why the holes are mirrored, its the mesh, not how I textured it, its just a way some UVs are layed out to save space, I didn't make the original UV, so I don't have control over that"


Quote: "That is correct, but the complicated process of UVMapping which can take hours, sometimes even days"


Takes about an hour, if that, the one from this would of taken Bond1 less than 10 mins. If id of done the UV, I would of not of rotated the rear body and reduced it, Id of kept it the same size as the front, placed it to the right, put the head in the gap on the bottom between the body sections, and the hand and foot at the gap at the top.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 03:52
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Oh... My bad Fallen.

Good work anyways.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 14:22
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Fallen, UVMapping can take a long long time, but again it depends on how you do it. sure you could just stick it in UVUW and have it done in minutes but if you go around the model, selecting each piece for cut and making sure everything is created to your perfection like I do, then it can take a matter of days my friend. Not trying to prove you wrong but Im just saying its the truth, especially when using extremely high poly models but thats off topic .
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Seth is also godlike for helping protect Bond's License... FTW!!!"


I helped too

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Pigeons are cool

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 17:34
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Quote: "question is, what is XXX and what is WWW?
First correct answer will get the skin free.
"


XXX=
*** 150 Proof (alcoholic beverages)
*** Extra Strong Mint (UK and Ireland)
*** Three X Level of decontamination
*** Internet Top-Level Domain Name for Adult Sites
*** Adult film rating
*** Straightedge (slang for no beer, no drugs, no promiscuous sex)


WWW=
*** What Went Wrong
*** Wild Wild West
*** Who What Where
*** What Women Want

and many more.

Best.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 19:21
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Good try xplosys, but no, not the correct one, no one will get it, and if I said what they mean, people wouldnt belive me either, thats the shocking thing about the truth. Also observe, the Straightedge seems to be different than the others in the list, thats interesting, isnt it.

Quote: "Pigeons are cool "

Pigeons are flying vermin, they carry more diseases than sewer rats, and that's a fact, people can think about that, the next time they think of feeding them in a park.

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Thats why pigeons are cool... They is going to be the cause of the apocolypse and turn us all to zombehs >=D

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The original image has been updated, so check original post for the finalised version, Ill get this uploaded to my site for purchase, thats if these forums keep up, for some reason my posts are showing up as a new poster and have to be approved.

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bond1's textures 1

fallenone's textures 0

couldnt help it

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What happened to the first post?

Sure, I suppose asking Bond first is a good idea, but considering he has yet to release anything, nothing offensive has been done. Previous retextures of Bond's work have been welcomed (and by him aswell), why the sudden hostility?

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Quote: "What happened to the first post?"


I re edited it to add a new image of the finalised skin, see link here - [href=http://www.avantivitastudios.com/Promotion/Zombie-Horde-Model1.jpg[/href]

Something has happened to my posting, its coming up as a new member, now either a fault is at work, either something on my end or a fault at TGC forums, or someone has been messing around with the accounts, either a member here, or a moderator has done it, perhaps sending out a noob slap, though for what I have no idea, nothing has been sent to me, Ive contacted a mod to see whats wrong with the account.

Quote: "Sure, I suppose asking Bond first is a good idea, but considering he has yet to release anything, nothing offensive has been done. Previous re textures of Bond's work have been welcomed (and by him aswell), why the sudden hostility?"


Ive reported the offending members, the boards are getting out of hand again, we are also seeing this with the showcase thread - E.L.E Season 1: thread, I don't think experienced developers should have to put up with this nonsense.

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Quote: "Something has happened to my posting, its coming up as a new member, now either a fault is at work, either something on my end or a fault at TGC forums, or someone has been messing around with the accounts, either a member here, or a moderator has done it, perhaps sending out a noob slap, though for what I have no idea, nothing has been sent to me, Ive contacted a mod to see whats wrong with the account."


I think is was because of what you said about using HL2 skyboxes: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=137619&b=21

The Forum's Acceptable Usage Policy.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2008 14:12 Edited at: 29th Sep 2008 14:14
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Looks like someone slapped you.It wasn't me but we mods tend to think alike.
I saw nothing overly offensive (compared to some of the garbage I have had to deal with around here this is petty).
I bumped the post about retextures so you can all read it.
You need to understand that some of the members around here are really touchy about piracy.
Bond might be a little busy (check the new sticky out).

Edit:
Nickydude posted the same time as I did.
fallen one's lucky he didn't get banned for that.

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Quote: "We don’t mind re-textures and the sharing of these textures. The problems start when someone tries to start selling the media as some kind of pack that had little or no work done on them. "


I'm guesing that last bit is key. I remember when that post was originally made there was a trend of "retextures" which were merely texture edits. However, I'd think there might be some sort of distinction between TGC owned assets (stock media) and Bond1 owned assets (MP,GCS) and only he can clarify that.
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I see no issue with him reselling the textures.They don't look anything like the original.
But if I were him I'd check with Bond and Rick Vanner to be sure.

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Okay, now I see the first post, I suppose the post approval hid it after you edited it until it was approved (it wasn't the pic I was concerned about, it was the fact it wasn't there ).

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Ive mailed Rick Vanner on this thread issue, so we will see what the final word is from him.

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Has anyone clarified whether bond1 welcomes re textures which are going to be sold or just re textures to be given away yet. The uv map only automatically becomes property of the owner to people that have purchased model pack 4 but then logic suggests the only people that will purchase the texture are people that own it so they can use the texture.

@fallen one. Sorry to take this off topic very briefly but are you still interested in doing the bryce tutorial for skyboxes? No worries if your concentrating on this at the moment as this could sell quite well once you get passed the paperwork.
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Hi Nomad, Im seeing first what happens with the verdict on skins, a tutorial whould take time to set up, its not just doing the tutorial but setting everything up to do it, finding video capture apps, compressing video etc, then doing the tutorial itself, I have to go over how I made the skyboxs, being a year ago its sometimes hard to remember how each was done.

I have a project to do in another engine, so I cant waste to much time on fpsc, so we have to see what happens.

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Hi, just to add some clarity:

If you re-skin a model and are planning to sell this re-skin then you cannot include the model file in your pack unless you have full written consent from the owner of that model. You can sell the re-skin texture on its own without any approval, it's down to you to inform anyone purchasing the re-skin that they must own the original model that the re-skin works with.

No one should ever sell any re-skins within the Game Creator Store without first gaining full approval from the IP owner of the model file. Failure to do this may result in the store account being removed permanently.

Ownership of anything you sell must be 100% your own OR you have an agreement to re-sell someone elses in whole or in part.

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Quote: "Pigeons are cool "


No, but they do use awesome hair gel.

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This comes from Fallen's "Gang Banger Biker" thread, and is a direct quote from Bond1 concerning this subject:

Quote: "It's totally fine by me. In fact I think it should be encouraged, because it gives extra value to these models if they can be used in different ways. So it would benefit you, me, and everybody.

As long a reasonable effort is made to make it unique, adding a single blood spatter and calling it a retexture would be kinda iffy. But as long as none of the original media is distributed - it's all cool. I don't think anyone can claim they have intellectual rights on a particular UV layout."


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The website to get this model is up, see original post, moderator, please bump this thread as Im noob slapped.

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One for your trumpet

come back on the 10th for the big one, ya all

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Bigger is always better


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hmmmm...a zombie in high-heels...haven't thought of that.

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damn wherez ma shotgun for that,cool zombo

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